PlainOl';
I don't think you know what a NeoCon is. I really don't.
Moreover, please state (at your convenience!) what specifically you oppose about "NeoCon" policy. Be careful! Pop quiz coming.....
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
Newt is just another neocon. Neocons control the xians and jews who
hate the muzzies and those against interventionism in the middle east.
know the enemy
On Dec 14, 9:56 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> Sunday, December 11, 2011Newt Gingrich: Demagogue, PseudointellectualPosted by Sheldon Richman at6:59 AMUpdated December 12Newt Gingrich says the Palestinian people were invented. That's very funny coming from a man who has reinvented himself a few times in his life. We didn't need more evidence of Gingrich's status as a rank demagogue and pseudointellectual, but he's furnished it anyway.
> Gingrich, in his typically arrogant manner, says this:And I think that we've had an invented Palestinian people, who are in fact Arabs, and were historically part of the Arab community. And they had a chance to go many places.By "chance to go many places" he means that while being expelled from their homes by Zionist/Israeli forces in 1947-48, they were free to relocate in any Arab country they chose. If I were to mimic Gingrich's style, I'd say that's a pro-FOUND-ly racist statement. Since these people are generic Arabs, why should it matter that someone else decides that they may no longer remain in Palestine where they and their families have lived and worked for a thousand or more years? (In the early twentieth century, incidentally, leading Zionist activists and scholars thought the Palestinians Arabs were descendants of the ancient Hebrews.)
> We could as easily say:And I think that we've had an invented Pennsylvanian people, who are in fact Americans, and were historically part of the American community. And they had a chance to go many places.Even if we concede, contrary to the evidence, that Palestinian consciousness is a rather late development, so what? It would not be the first time that oppression of a group of people has forged group consciousness. Indeed, Theodor Herzl, the founder of the Zionist movement, was an assimilated Jew in Austria until the trial ofAlfred Dreyfusin France. Herzl's response to that spectacle was to say, in effect: It's the anti-Semites who make us Jews.
> In other words, Gingrich makes no sense when he suggests, as he did at theDecember 10 debate, that since the Arabs of Palestine didn't call themselves Palestinians until the 1970s, their uprooting from the land was perfectly okay. How does that follow?
> On the particular historical question of Palestinian consciousness,Wikipediais instructive. Also see Jeremy Sapienza'sblog poston the subject. And here's something Gingrich might want to ponder: the dialect known asPalestinian Arabic. The invented people have their own language!
> Here's what theEncyclopedia Brittanicahas to say:Although the Arabs of Palestine had been creating and developing a Palestinian identity for about 200 years, the idea that Palestinians form a distinct people is relatively recent. The Arabs living in Palestine had never had a separate state. Until the establishment of Israel, the term Palestinian was used by Jews and foreigners to describe the inhabitants of Palestine and had only begun to be used by the Arabs themselves at the turn of the 20th century; at the same time, most saw themselves as part of the larger Arab or Muslim community. The Arabs of Palestine began widely using the term Palestinian starting in the pre-World War I period to indicate the nationalist concept of a Palestinian people. But after 1948and even more so after 1967for Palestinians themselves the term came to signify not only a place of origin but, more importantly, a sense of a shared past and future in the form of a Palestinian state. [Emphasis added.]Not to pile on, but in 1921 -- more than 50 years before the Palestinian people were supposedly invented -- something called theSyrian-Palestinian Congressmet "to influence the terms of the proposed League of Nations mandate over the region." The word Palestine (or a form of it) goes back toancient times.
> As theWashington Post's fact-checkerput it:But Gingrich's claim that "Palestinian" did not become a common term until 1977 is bizarre. The very [1921] League of Nations mandate that he mentions was called "The British Mandate for Palestine." The text of the declaration mentions the word "Palestine" 45 times and "Palestinian" twice.Speaking of inventing people, Gingrich might pick up Shlomo Sand's excellent book,The Invention of the Jewish People. Sand, a professor history at Tel Aviv University, shows that most national groups were essentially invented.
> SeeRichard Silverstein's excellent commentary.
> Here's the video of Gingrich's balderdash.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dHWJWJocD6AThose who think Palestine was a "land without a people" before Israel, should watch this video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JGBoGKPZlQEhttp://sheldonfreeassociation.blogspot.com/2011/12/newt-gingrich-demagogue.html
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