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So, the USA is not a democracy
On Oct 16, 12:51 pm, margareth <mzeba...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> So, democracy is messy. While I have not participated in any
> occupations, I am certainly sympathetic. Wall Street, and a kabal of
> very wealthy families run the world beyond the scrutiny of any
> government or police force. But it is us that have given them much of
> their power. One can always choose what they wish to buy, and what
> they will eat... if they are truly willing to pay the true price of
> freedom... Of course some would lose weight, but North Americans are
> known for being fat. Perhaps the cities would see fit to provide
> public rest rooms, as they do in the UK... that. I for one was quite
> happy to pay as much as a shiilling twenty years ago to pay for an
> attendant to maintain a public facility. At the time I was a
> tourist.. an export that many muicipalities wish to attract. For a
> large gathering..'Johnny on the spot' can certainly meet the short
> term need... and of the communities for cleanliness.
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> On Oct 16, 6:38 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > The Occupiers are noxious to the people who work in the neighborhoods where
> > they are urinating and defecating.
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> > That is the main purpose of their rally.
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> > In that they are like marching Nazis in Skokie, Illinois
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> > Both are a form of pollution created by "public" "property" along with
> > litterers, public school bullies, panhandlers, pick pockets, and many
> > rapists, child molesters, and muggers.
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> > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Dan Clore <cl...@columbia-center.org>wrote:
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> > > News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
> > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
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> > > [I'm posting this as an example of neocon reaction to the occupation
> > > movement at its worst. Of all things, blaming the protestors because the
> > > government taxes people to pay the police to beat them with truncheons,
> > > pepperspray them, trample them with horses, run into them with mopeds,
> > > etc., etc., etc. Yeah, that should make taxpayers mad, but not at the
> > > victims.--DC]
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> > >http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/10/14/malkin-costs-of-the-occup...
> > > Malkin: Costs of the Occupiers
> > > By Michelle Malkin
> > > October 14, 2011 6:30 am
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> > > The trash generated by the "Occupy Wall Street" protests keeps piling
> > > up. So do the bills. Liberal media outlets claim the anarchic,
> > > anti-capitalist movement is more popular than the tea party. But wait
> > > until Americans across the country get a full picture of the costs of
> > > the aimless occupiers.
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> > > In New York City, government officials estimate the month-long siege of
> > > Zuccotti Park has now imposed $3.2 million in overtime police costs on
> > > the public. On Thursday, as Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office pressured
> > > left-wing activists to vacate the park for cleaning, Occupy Wall Street
> > > urged sympathizers to flood the city's customer services lines: "Call
> > > 311 and tell Bloomberg not to evict us!"
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> > > In Philadelphia, Mayor Michael Nutter told the press that demonstrators
> > > outside city hall have incurred $164,000 in overtime public employee
> > > costs and $237,000 in regular time. "At the current rate, if Occupy
> > > Philly continues to the end of the month, the city would spend another
> > > nearly $690,000 on police overtime alone," the local NBC affiliate
> > > reported. "Besides the extra police presence being dedicated to the
> > > Occupy Philly protests, other city departments have also incurred costs."
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> > > In Seattle, police have so far billed $30,000 in overtime, and the parks
> > > department racked up nearly $4,000 in additional costs related to the
> > > protests there. Occupiers have blocked traffic, assaulted an officer and
> > > pitched illegal tents. Merchants in the area have been hurt as the
> > > riff-raff deter customers. One business owner in Westlake Park, where
> > > hundreds of protesters remain camped out, told Seattle TV station KIRO:
> > > "There's definitely fewer people you can identify as people out, just
> > > walking through the area."
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> > > Seattle's pushover mayor, Democrat Mike McGinn, now faces even greater
> > > demands from the insatiable mob -- which wants a "guaranteed parking
> > > space near City Hall Plaza that allows for around-the-clock parking,"
> > > "24-hour access to the first floor of City Hall for restroom access, and
> > > a written statement from the mayor approving the protesters' long-term
> > > occupancy of City Hall Plaza."
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> > > In Boston, City Council President Stephen Murphy anticipates a $2
> > > million hit to taxpayers if the protests refuse to disband by the end of
> > > October. The local Fox affiliate notes the tab represents 8 percent of
> > > the yearly budget for police overtime. "While we're all sympathetic with
> > > our protesters down there," Murphy said, "Wall Street isn't picking up
> > > the tab on this thing. It's the Boston taxpayers."
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> > > When fiscally conservative tea party activists held protests over the
> > > past two years, they filed for all the required permits and paid for
> > > their own power. Occupy Boston, by contrast, neither sought nor obtained
> > > any proper permits at any level, according to the Boston Globe. Instead,
> > > city and park officials have been cowed into providing them gratis
> > > electricity and camp space lest there be "conflict."
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> > > Many of these occupiers are primarily occupied as paid rent-a-mobsters
> > > for unions, left-wing think tanks and the radical Working Families
> > > Party. While one collective hand soaks the taxpayers, the other hand is
> > > busy soliciting free stuff. Occupy Los Angeles activists took to Skype
> > > on their laptops to solicit donations of iPhones and iPads.
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> > > Occupy Wall Street members on Twitter organized an ongoing
> > > "#needsoftheoccupiers" drive for everything from batteries and tarps to
> > > "gently used" coats and sweaters, wool socks, sleeping bags and energy
> > > bars. Occupy Austin organizers publicized their wish list, including a
> > > free barbecue grill, portable toilets, extension cords, a Bobcat
> > > forestry cutter for clearing brush and network cameras for a livestream.
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> > > These are not principled advocates of fiscal responsibility. They are
> > > professional freeloaders.
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> > > Unlike tea party activists who focused like a laser beam on politicians
> > > in both parties responsible for redistributing wealth to Big Business
> > > cronies by force, the Occupy Wall Street movement is everywhere and
> > > nowhere. The entitled Kamp Alinsky Kids are poaching WiFi and
> > > trespassing on private property under the guise of "social justice" but
> > > in plain service of themselves.
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> > > Their T-shirts and speeches glorify Marxist radicals Che Guevara,
> > > Emiliano Zapata and Chairman Mao. They lionize convicted death row cop
> > > killer Troy Davis and WikiLeaks collaborator Bradley Manning. They
> > > condemn "Nazi Bankers," Jews, Fox News, the American Legislative
> > > Exchange Council, Wisconsin GOP Gov. Scott Walker, the Koch family and
> > > the New York Police Department ("Pigs!"). They promote the illegal alien
> > > DREAM Act and 9/11 Trutherism.
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> > > They spout bumper-sticker profanities and inanities: "F**k banks."
> > > "Unf**k the world." "Fuuuuu*k." "Free education." "Smash nationalism."
> > > "People not profits."
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> > > They flash peace signs while celebrity supporter Roseanne Barr calls for
> > > beheading financial industry workers and fellow marchers call explicitly
> > > for "violent revolution" or for Obama to "Send SEAL Team 6" to Wall Street.
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> > > Then they huff and puff (preferably in a creepy uniform chant they call
> > > the "human microphone") that we just haven't taken the time to
> > > understand what they're all about -- as they hawk $20 "Eat the Rich"
> > > polo shirts and license their protest photos to Getty Images.
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> > > Viva la revolucion! Up with people! Stop the greed! (Cha-ching. Cha-ching.)
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> > > ---
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> > > Michelle Malkin is the author of "Culture of Corruption: Obama and his
> > > Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks & Cronies" (Regnery 2010).
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> > > --
> > > Dan Clore
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> > > New book: _Weird Words: A Lovecraftian Lexicon_:
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> > > My collected fiction: _The Unspeakable and Others_
> > >http://tinyurl.com/3tyj9cq
> > > Lord Weÿrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
> > >http://tinyurl.com/292yz9
> > > News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
> > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
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> > > Skipper: Professor, will you tell these people who is
> > > in charge on this island?
> > > Professor: Why, no one.
> > > Skipper: No one?
> > > Thurston Howell III: No one? Good heavens, this is anarchy!
> > > -- _Gilligan's Island_, episode #6, "President Gilligan"
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