On Jul 17, 1:47 pm, Sharon Fuentes <oneforentr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> good morning Keith,
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> Sounds like quite the adventure you are on. Please note that not everyone
> who is liberal thinks that conservatives are dumb, stupid or misinformed.
> It is this thinking on both sides of the isle that has brought much
> contention and dysfunctionality with the government as we know it today. I
> believe that the media like to stretch it one way or another so that they
> sell their schmootz to their listeners and followers-it sales. There has to
> be a balance somewhere and there has to be willingness on both sides to
> engage in a meaningful discourse. The biggest hindrance between the parties
> in doing this (my opinion) is that we are too ideologically ingrained now
> and march to the beat of the ideological drumb. It makes me very sad to
> read the posts here where people are cursed at and categorized as retards
> simply because of a difference of opinion. We have shifted to a whole level
> in a decremental fashion where discourse is near meaningless and the
> exchange of ideas is minimal at best because their is hardly any meaningful
> discussion or explanation as to why people think as they do. We are all
> adults and do not need to call one another retarded because we do not think
> alike-let the 8 year-olds on the playground do that. I will never
> underestimate the intelligence of a conservative-Karl Rove was brilliant
> getting Bush to the White House and that said-anyone who thinks that some of
> these elected officials are not intelligent-are shortsighted in their
> perspective-for these not so smart elected officials are setting policy
> (whether we agree with it or not) which is why it is imperative to have
> mixed parties controlling the Senate, HOR and Executive offices. No matter
> what party is in power, we as citizens can only hope that the best
> decisions are made (often not the case) and if we are not happy-we need to
> vote their bottoms out of office and begin anew. However, that is not so
> easy since we have the lowest if not one of the lowest election turnouts in
> all the world. I have seen things here in this country that if it were
> anywhere else, citizens in Europe would be in the streets marching in
> protest. But we don't. All we want is what media will feed us- hollywood,
> professional sports, etc, our mere existence and our gadgets. If
> politicians said tomorrow, they planned to ban all internet access and a
> seizure of all smart phones was to occur-you might get a rise from the
> average citizen. But we have become complacent and that is due to
> ignorance, lack of education about what is happening in the world and
> Washington, and the blind trust that those who are elected will make choices
> that are best for this country and this is a dangerous place to be no matter
> what party you support.
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> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > Thanks for sharing this article Dick. I rarely if ever read the NYT
> > Magazine, (even though I have it bookmarked on my Homepage here on my
> > laptop); I would not have seen this article had you not posted it.
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> > Kerry has always struck me as the proverbial, "Plastic Politician", much
> > like John Edwards affected me, (and there have been a number of Republican
> > politicians that I can also put into this same category).
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> > I am here in Fulda, getting ready to go to "Observation Post Alpha";
> > placed at the Fulda Gap in Geisha, which during the Cold War, was where
> > "We" believed that the Soviets would enter if they did in fact choose to
> > attack Western Europe. There are still remnants of the old German
> > Democratic Republik border, and during my last few days here in Germany, I
> > wanted to see it. The point being, is that I had a few minutes to read the
> > article and comment before I have to check out of the Hotel.
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> > I was watching Bill Mahr on Piers WhuzHisName, (the guy who replaced Larry
> > King on CNN) sometime this morning, (CNN International) and the writer for
> > the NYT, as well as Kerry, reminds me of that arrogant "Bill Mahr~Clueless,
> > Far Left Liberal" mindset. Mahr literally thinks that all individuals who
> > have conservative viewpoints are dumb and stupid, yet, when you hear Mahr
> > quote, "Facts", none are accurate or even remotely close to the truth.
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> > I have seen Kerry do the same thing, on the floor of the Senate.
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> > That same perspective resounds the the Obama Administration.Note all of the
> > promises that have been made, "Closing Guantanamo" to,giving reassurances
> > to Afghani Warlords of United States Troop involvement at least through
> > 2014, and as Kerry put it, "A foreign policy of, 'Engagement' ".
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> > The NYT's writer never challenges any of these hoaxes, and reports them as
> > factual, accurate and truthful. The far left extremists also believe this
> > to be an accurate description of what has transpired, just as they believe
> > that raising taxes on less than one percent of the populace, those who are
> > most responsible for creating jobs in this Nation, and by blaming tax
> > breaks for corporate jets for the entire $14.3 trillion deficit, will
> > justify the continuous outrageous socialistic style spending spree by the
> > Obama Administration, all the while, the goal is to continue to rile up the
> > increasingly large number of people who get checks from the government.
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> > And folks like Studio, Steve, Moe SugarShack and others keep marching
> > down that same path to Utopia.....Thinking that all conservatives are ill
> > informed and dumb....
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> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:38 AM, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net>wrote:
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> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/**07/17/magazine/john-kerry-our-**
> >> man-in-kabul.html?nl=**todaysheadlines&emc=tha210<http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/magazine/john-kerry-our-man-in-kabu...>
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