Friday, December 24, 2010

Re: Victory! Senate Repeals ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’, Despite 31 Republican No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt

Nah.

On 12/23/10, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, Tommy, Those quotes are from OBAMA.
>
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Karl Marx, but I am not a Marxist.
>>
>> On 12/23/10, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Damn TommyTomTom,
>> >
>> > It is a PUBLIC FORUM. That means it is a DEMOCRATIC FORUM where
>> > everybody
>> is
>> > allowed to chime in.
>> >
>> > You never did answer that (or for that matter....ANY) last question of
>> > mine....Who said those things... whose UNDENIABLE quotes are they ??
>> >
>> > Just to refresh your short term memory....
>> >
>> > Who said the below ??
>> >
>> > "The human being is in the most literal sense a political animal, not
>> merely
>> > a gregarious animal, but an animal which can individuate itself only in
>> the
>> > midst of society."
>> >
>> > "The history of all previous societies has been the history of class
>> > struggles."
>> >
>> > "In bourgeois (capitalist) society capital is independent and has
>> > individuality, while the living person is dependent and has no
>> > individuality."
>> >
>> > "From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need."
>> >
>> > "Democracy is the road to socialism."
>> >
>> > "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class
>> > struggles."
>> >
>> > "WORKERS OF ALL LANDS UNITE."
>> >
>> > "THE PHILOSOPHERS HAVE ONLY INTERPRETED THE WORLD IN VARIOUS WAYS - THE
>> > POINT HOWEVER IS TO CHANGE IT."
>> >
>> > "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class
>> > struggles."
>> >
>> > "The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Markie Mark-
>> >>
>> >> Who asked you to chime in?
>> >> I was addressing Keith's lie that he "never" called me an "asshole."
>> >> Please MYOB.
>> >>
>> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Here is the post by you that preceded your being called an "asshole".
>> >> Funny
>> >> > but it looks like you were the first to post a "smear" about Glenn
>> Becks
>> >> > rally about God and Country. Then you refused to answer any question
>> on
>> >> your
>> >> > position posting instead something entirely irrelevant to the
>> discussion
>> >> or
>> >> > the question posed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Your answer was to say, when pinned back by your ears for an on topic
>> >> > response, that Keith was a Jackass.
>> >> >
>> >> > So yes, if you were a trial attorney, you would have just convicted
>> >> yourself
>> >> > for having thrown the first punch.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Lil"FascistReichWingnutKeithieKeith-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My memory is excellent and serves me well. I should have been a
>> >> >> trial
>> >> >> attorney.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1. Yes, you have indeed called me "asshole." One of my posts
>> >> >> enraged
>> >> >> you so that you did in fact call me "asshole". This was some time
>> ago.
>> >> >> Perhaps you were drinking when you wrote this. Search your group
>> >> >> archives here:
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/browse_thread/thread/abda3fce2e182b23/aa056c8f40e95ac6?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=+asshole+keith+tommy#aa056c8f40e95ac6
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On September 1st, at 3:32 PM. you, "Keith in Tampa" wrote, and I
>> >> >> quote,
>> >> "
>> >> >>
>> >> >> " Hey Asshole,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First, if I choose to drink, it's my business. Second, you are a
>> >> typical
>> >> >> Anti-American Marxist who when confronted with truth, can only
>> >> >> revert
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> nasty name calling and hateful spew.
>> >> >> Personally I love myself! To know me is to love me!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your last line is typical of far left Marxists, and proof that you
>> >> >> don't
>> >> >> have a clue.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> G'Nite!! "
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2. Yes, you most certainly have. Search your group archives for
>> proof.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 3. I am not a "moonbat" which is an offensive hateful insult and a
>> >> >> false
>> >> >> smear.
>> >> >> I am an American human, and not a moon, a bat, or a "moonbat".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 4. and 5. Calling someone something they are not, like "Socialist"
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> indeed derogatory, a personal attack, an insult, and a false
>> >> >> lie.
>> >> >> I am not a "Marrxist" "Socialist" or a "Communist".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 6. Wrong again. More lies hate and smear from Keith. Tommy is not
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> never has been "a very hateful, liar who smears those who don't
>> >> >> march
>> >> >> to your
>> >> >> socialist Anti-American rainbow agenda."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This thread proves that you are indeed a liar with a poor memory and
>> a
>> >> >> purveyour of false, hateful smear, Lil'KeitheKeith.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 12/23/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Lil"MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1. I have never called you an asshole.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2, I have never said half of the ridiculous claims that you have
>> made
>> >> >> here.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 3. You are a Moonbat, your posts demonstrate that you don't read,
>> >> study,
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> > have an inkling about what is going on around you. The fact that
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > cannot point to any of the claims that you make, or support any
>> >> >> > of
>> >> your
>> >> >> > arguments with substantive, logical thought also is another
>> inkling.
>> >> >> prove
>> >> >> > that.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 4. Calling a Socialist, a "Socialist" is not a derogatory term.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 5. Calling a Marxist, a "Marxist" is not derogatory either.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 6. You are a very hateful, liar who smears those who don't march
>> to
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > socialist Anti-American rainbow agenda. This thread proves that.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Markie Mark-
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> After the Republican Obstructionists take control of Congress in
>> >> >> >> January, I predict that very little will get passed. Their
>> >> >> >> primary
>> >> >> >> un-American objective is to make The President of The United
>> States
>> >> >> >> fail. Watch and see.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Most, yes; and I read it all... as do MOST posters on this
>> >> >> >> > forum...
>> >> >> >> except
>> >> >> >> > you. As long as gay equality (NOT rights) is tied to
>> immigration,
>> >> >> >> > budget,
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> > anything else that is slightly distasteful it will NOT pass.
>> >> >> >> > The day it is introduced as a sole and separate issue it will
>> >> >> >> > pass.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Tommy News <
>> tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> No, I have not read the entire bill.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Are you aware that most legislation before Congress almost
>> always
>> >> >> >> >> has
>> >> >> >> >> unrelated amendments and attachments?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > Tommy,
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > A simple question..... Have you ever read any of the
>> >> >> >> >> > proposed
>> >> DOMA
>> >> >> >> >> > repeal
>> >> >> >> >> > legislation and all the "attachments" and "amendments" that
>> >> >> >> >> > have
>> >> >> >> forever
>> >> >> >> >> > been attached to to it ???
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > If and when....like DADT.... a simple single subject bill to
>> >> make
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> >> civil
>> >> >> >> >> > unions equal in every way is put forth it will pass.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Tommy,
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Your "list" proves that you never did understand what you
>> are
>> >> >> >> reading.
>> >> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> >> can be free to attack your "ideas" without that attack
>> having
>> >> >> >> anything
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> >> >> with you personally. You put yourself forward as "Tommy
>> News"
>> >> and
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> >> >> >> expect
>> >> >> >> >> >> (yet never get) a semblance of neutrality and or
>> >> >> >> >> >> objectivity
>> >> from
>> >> >> >> >> anything
>> >> >> >> >> >> connected with "News"; thus the plays on your chosen
>> moniker.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> As to the Marxist/Socialist claims... Obama made them
>> himself
>> >> in
>> >> >> his
>> >> >> >> >> >> auto-biography. For you to try to dismiss this is absurd.
>> >> Denial
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >> river in Egypt.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Tommy News <
>> >> tommysnews@gmail.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Lil Keithie Kieth
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> I am very sorry that you are such a homophobic Reich
>> wingnut
>> >> >> >> fascist.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> To repeat again,
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Don't you believe that when you called me "Asshole"
>> >> >> >> >> >>> "Moonbat"
>> >> >> >> >> >>> "Marxist" "Socialist"
>> >> >> >> >> >>> "Young Tommy" "Lil Tom Tom" "Ignorant" etc. you were being
>> >> >> hateful,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> smearing and hurting me, and lying?
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> I believe you are telling lies again.You have demonstrated
>> >> again
>> >> >> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> again that you do NOT hold "beliefs of equality for all"
>> >> >> >> >> >>> as
>> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> falsely
>> >> >> >> >> >>> claim.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> You oppose the repeal of DADT, which has ruined thousands
>> of
>> >> >> lives
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> careers.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> You oppose the repeal of DOMA, which discriminates against
>> >> >> legally
>> >> >> >> >> >>> married same sex couples who only want equal Federal
>> marriage
>> >> >> >> benefits
>> >> >> >> >> >>> such as social security and joint tax returns, etc.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> You oppose Civil Marriage Equality for same sex couples.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Civil
>> >> >> >> Unions
>> >> >> >> >> >>> and domestic partnerships are lesser, unequal contracts
>> with
>> >> >> fewer
>> >> >> >> >> >>> benefits and rights.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> You oppose UAFA, and favor tearing loving same sex
>> >> >> >> >> >>> families
>> >> >> >> >> >>> apart
>> >> >> >> >> >>> through deportation.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> You appear to falsely believe that being gay is a choice
>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> lifestyle, which it is not.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> You believe that all gays are flamboyant chaps wearing
>> cross
>> >> >> >> dressing
>> >> >> >> >> >>> exhibitionist sex fiends, which most are not. Most dress
>> >> better
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> more conservatively than you do. Many are chaste and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> celebate.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> You, Keith, by your own admissions, are a prejudiced
>> >> >> >> >> >>> misguided
>> >> >> >> >> >>> misinformed homophobic Reich wingnut bigot with a dirty
>> mind.
>> >> >> Yes,
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> are.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> On 12/23/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > How, or why would you make such a slanderous statement
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > as
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > that?
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > Can
>> >> >> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > point to something that would make you say such a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > hateful
>> >> lie
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> smear
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > against my person?
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > Either point to a post, with the quote, or make an
>> apology.
>> >> >> One
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > other,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > KeithInTampa
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Tommy News <
>> >> >> >> tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Keith does not champion gays as equals.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> He sees them as second class citizens.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> On 12/22/10, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Tommy,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Where is the need to champion ANY group when you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > champion
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> >> >>> equals
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> ??
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News <
>> >> >> >> >> tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Keith-
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Although you flippantly state that "Yea, I am an
>> >> arrogant
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> asshole",
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> you are in fact a misguided homophobe, as you have
>> >> >> >> demonstrated
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> clearly in your anti-gay statements in these groups.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I suggest that you make youself a New Year's
>> resolution
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> become
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> an
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> ally, champion, and advocate for your oppressed gay
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> friends
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> group
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> members, as other Republicans have done.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Merry Christmas.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On 12/20/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Hey Wayne!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > How do ya think stereotypes get started? Any
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > truth
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > them?
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Hey Vince!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Well, the last thing I wanted to come across as,
>> was
>> >> >> >> >> >>> condescending!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Yea,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > am an arrogant asshole, but usually a pretty
>> friendly
>> >> >> >> asshole!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Nope,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > pacifying anyone, ya wanna hear the truth? Come
>> on
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > over
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> >>> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > shed
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > the light for ya!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Good to see ya, and Merry Christmas!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > KeithInDC
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:03 PM, vince brackney
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > <vincebrackney@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> You know it isn't really worth the effort to get
>> >> Keith
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> see
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> other
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> side of the coin. Nothing more condescending than
>> >> >> someone
>> >> >> >> who
>> >> >> >> >> >>> claims
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> are not prejudice and then make the statements
>> that
>> >> he
>> >> >> >> does.
>> >> >> >> >> It
>> >> >> >> >> >>> like
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> saying
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I have gay friends so I am not a hater, when
>> really
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> pacifying
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> us.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> He is really saying these things based on his
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> experience
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> years
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> ago,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I suspect that was before DADT was even in
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> existence.
>> >> >> He
>> >> >> >> has
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> opinion
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> like everyone else. And everyone has the right to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> his
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> hers
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> own
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> opinion.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> just wish it wasn't aired in this group.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I am very thankful for the straight friends I do
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> >> >>> truly
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> prejudice and except me for who I am. Wish we had
>> >> more
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> them
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> world.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:26 PM, wayne berry <
>> >> >> >> >> >>> whitenoiz1@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> oh god, keith, i love ya! but do not tell me
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> that
>> >> you
>> >> >> >> really
>> >> >> >> >> >>> can't
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> see
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> forest for the trees?
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> heterosexuality represents 90% of the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> population.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> in
>> >> >> fact
>> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >> >> i
>> >> >> >> >> >>> am
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> carrying a CD by madonna in my rainbow colored
>> >> purse,
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> >> >>> ever
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> suspects
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i'm gay! no one suspects my husband is bisexual
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> even
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> >> he
>> >> >> >> >> >>> says
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> judas
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> priest is his favorite metal band! because most
>> >> people
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> are
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> straight,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> assumption both gays AND straights operate under
>> is
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> when
>> >> >> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> meet
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> man
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you recognize that odds are pretty good he likes
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> ladies
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -
>> >> >> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> got
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 9
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 10 chance and rarely will you be wrong. except
>> when
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >> ARE
>> >> >> >> >> >>> wrong.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> stereotypes exist because in any group you can
>> name
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> are
>> >> >> >> >> >>> often
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> people
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> who fit certain ideas that are recognized - some
>> >> jews
>> >> >> ARE
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> cheap,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> some
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> white
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> people ARE incredibly "uptight", some gays DO
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> prefer
>> >> >> >> flowers
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> football...
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> but within any stereotype there are plenty
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> enough
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> dissonances
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> reveal
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> stereotype for what it is... a careless and
>> casual
>> >> >> >> painting
>> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> large
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> group
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> of people as being all the same, when indeed
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> none
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> us
>> >> >> >> are.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> no one has to say they are straight because
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> there
>> >> are
>> >> >> so
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> many
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you can scarcely imagine people who are not like
>> >> you.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> my jobs in kitchens are not as regimented as the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> military,
>> >> >> >> >> yet
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> there's
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> still a certain amount of macho involved in the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> job!
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> here
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> thing... in all but the most antiseptic
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> atmospheres,
>> >> >> >> someone
>> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> gonna
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> ask
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you about your life outside the job. and there
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> is
>> >> >> nothing
>> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> sounds
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> worse
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> than saying you don't have a girlfriend or a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> wife
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> or
>> >> >> even
>> >> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> >>> some
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> girl
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> bang now and again, than saying, "oh, i'm sorry
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> don't
>> >> >> >> talk
>> >> >> >> >> >>> about
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> personal
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> stuff like that." or weirder if you constantly
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> avoid
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> question.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> when
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> there is no penalty for telling the truth you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> are
>> >> much
>> >> >> >> less
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> freak
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> when
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> answer truthfully, "well, no i don't have a wife
>> or
>> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> girlfriend...
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i'm
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> gay
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> and i have a husband/boyfriend... ' or even,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> "i'm
>> >> not
>> >> >> >> seeing
>> >> >> >> >> >>> anyone
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 'special' right now, but i'm doing OK, if ya
>> catch
>> >> my
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> drift."
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i mean on one hand being gay informs a lot of my
>> >> life
>> >> >> (my
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> tastes
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> are
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> somewhat different from yours, observably,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> aren't
>> >> >> they?)
>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> most
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> mundane aspects of life - the need for personal
>> >> >> >> connection,
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> need
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> eat,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the need to have some sort of meaning in your
>> work?
>> >> >> it's
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> same
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> straight guy as a gay guy.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i really can't understand your need to cling to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> fairly
>> >> >> >> >> >>> outdated
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> concept
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> of what a gay man is when you are the moderator
>> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> group
>> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> gives
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> every evidence of a gay men who are far from
>> those
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> stereotypical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> pictures.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Keith In Tampa
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> <keithintampa@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Hello Mustang! Good to see ya!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> First, I knew, when I wrote my initial missive,
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> there
>> >> >> >> >> >>> would
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> be
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> at
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> least one thinking, "common sense" kinda guy
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> (<Grin!!>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> asshole!!)
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> who
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> would
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> call me on my last missive! Touche'!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> It is in fact a hard concept that I was
>> >> attempting
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> frame,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> you
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> are correct....Sort of.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Yes, as I stated, the military cultivates a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> "Macho"
>> >> >> >> image,
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> it
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> hard
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> to not separate the Macho Man who is the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> ladies'
>> >> man.
>> >> >> >> This
>> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> direct
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> conflict with my statement that the military
>> does
>> >> not
>> >> >> >> allow
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> for
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> those
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> who
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> wear their sexual identity on their sleeve.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> There are a number of men in the military who
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> do
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> in
>> >> >> fact
>> >> >> >> >> play
>> >> >> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> "cassanova" role. I will admit that to a
>> degree,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> this
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> is
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> double
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> standard
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> and in conflict with my premise.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Having said that, in my 53 years, I have yet to
>> >> meet
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Heterosexual,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> who
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> identifies himself as a, "Heterosexual". That
>> his
>> >> >> whole
>> >> >> >> >> life
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> revolves
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> around being, "Heterosexual". His politics;
>> his
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> social
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> life;
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> his
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> mannerisms; his diet; his wardrobe; his
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> decor;
>> >> his
>> >> >> >> >> passions,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> likes,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> dislikes, hatreds, loves, and yes, sexual
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> appetite,
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> defined
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> by
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> his
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> "Straightness".
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Please point this/these individual(s) out to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> me.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Therein lies the distinction, and no, nothing
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> about
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> repeal
>> >> >> >> >> >>> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> DADT
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> will change the rejection by the United States
>> >> >> Military
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> this
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> one
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> major
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> issue, of Gay men or women who choose to defend
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> our
>> >> >> >> Nation.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Just
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> like
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> their
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> straight counterparts, they cannot and will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> not
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> be
>> >> >> able
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> broadcast
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> their
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> sexual proclivities, as is done so much in the
>> Gay
>> >> >> >> >> community,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> maybe
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> some Heterosexual social circles; (Like the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Nudist/Swapping
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> crews).
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> KeithInDC
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Mustang <
>> >> >> >> >> >>> mustangspnkr@yahoo.com
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Keith,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> While I agree with many, if not most, things
>> you
>> >> say
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> >> >> >>> disagree
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> couple. This being one of them.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> "The military does not allow for ANYONE, and
>> this
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> include
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuals as well as homosexuals, to wear
>> >> their
>> >> >> >> >> sexuality
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> openly,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> or to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> broadcast their sexual likes or dislikes
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> publicly.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> "
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Heterosexuals already do wear their sexuality
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> preference
>> >> >> >> >> >>> openly.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Are you saying that everyone will suddenly be
>> >> >> forbidden
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> any
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> opportunity
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> to display or even have pictures of their
>> family
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> friends?
>> >> >> >> >> >>> No
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> one
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> be allowed to admit they write, call, or
>> discuss
>> >> any
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> communications
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> with
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> their wives, husbands, girlfriends or
>> boyfriends?
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> No
>> >> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> be
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> allowed to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> talk about how things are going at home or
>> plans
>> >> >> after
>> >> >> >> >> >>> discharge?
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> While on
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> leave, no one can invite a male or female
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> military
>> >> >> >> friend
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> spend
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Holidays with a spouse, or to openly have two
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Dads
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> or
>> >> >> >> two
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Moms?
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> The Israeli military has not gone to hell in a
>> >> hand
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> basket.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> They
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> no problem with both genders or gay people
>> being
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> drafted
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> then
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> working
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> cohesively. It's the same as acceptance of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> blacks
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> women
>> >> >> >> >> >>> was
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> decades
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> ago. Much ado about nothing. I am certain
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> our
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> military
>> >> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> be
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> able
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> keep their minds focused on the tasks
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> assigned.
>> >> >> Anyone
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> who
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> qualified
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> should have the right to apply to defend our
>> >> nation.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Absolute
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> 100%
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuality should not be a requirement.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Nothing
>> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> change.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Mustang
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Bigotry disguised as morality is still bigotry
>> >> just
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> an
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> outhouse
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> marble columns is still an outhouse. - D.A.
>> >> Ridgely
>> >> >> >> >> (whomever
>> >> >> >> >> >>> he
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> is)
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> *From:* Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> *To:* historical-pictoral@googlegroups.com
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> *Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 9:18:24 AM
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Historical Pictorial] Victory!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Senate
>> >> >> >> >> Repeals
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> 'Don't
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Ask, Don't Tell', Despite 31 Republican No
>> Votes
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> John
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> McCain's
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Fillibuster Attempt
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> No question, I see this issue from a different
>> >> >> >> perspective
>> >> >> >> >> >>> than I
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> believe most do here in HP.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> I don't see the DADT repeal as being all that
>> >> >> >> significant,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> although
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> I agree with Rob and his assessment, I also
>> >> think
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> that
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> there
>> >> >> >> >> >>> is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> major
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> component to all of this, that Rob, or anyone
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> else
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> in
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> group
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> has
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> touched
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> upon.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> The military does not allow for ANYONE, and
>> this
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> will
>> >> >> >> >> include
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuals as well as homosexuals, to wear
>> >> their
>> >> >> >> >> sexuality
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> openly,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> or to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> broadcast their sexual likes or dislikes
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> publicly.
>> >> >> In
>> >> >> >> >> other
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> words,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> NO
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> ONE
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> in the military can be or will be identified
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> by
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> their
>> >> >> >> >> sexual
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> proclivities or
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> sexual identification, which is a common
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> factor
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Gay
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> community.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> This
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> is where so many in the Gay community are
>> >> mistaken.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> The military will boot out a service member
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> who
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> an
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> admitted
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> adulterer. Service members who are into any
>> type
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> sado-masochistic activities and make them
>> public
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> be
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> summarily
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> discharged. Those service members who are
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> into
>> >> >> >> "swinging"
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> have
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> multiple
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> sexual partners, and who make that aspect of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> their
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> lives
>> >> >> >> >> >>> public,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> be
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> shown the door and discharged. All
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> branches
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> service
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> condone any member who bases his or her
>> lifestyle
>> >> >> upon
>> >> >> >> >> their
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> sexual
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> identiy.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Nothng has changed.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Just as important, the military does in fact
>> have
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and
>> >> >> >> >> embrace
>> >> >> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> "Macho"
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> image. This is requisite for combat. Yes,
>> there
>> >> are
>> >> >> >> women
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> service
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> but not in combat arms. The lifestyle is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> tough,
>> >> >> rugged
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> most
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> time
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> uncomfortable. The stereotypical Gay male will
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> not
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> be
>> >> >> >> >> >>> condoned.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> The
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> combat
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> units of the Army and Marines are all male and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> all
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> males
>> >> >> >> >> >>> talk
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> about
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> doing their girl friends as they charge the
>> enemy
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> cigars
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> hanging
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> out
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> their mouths; not penises. This is the image
>> >> that
>> >> >> our
>> >> >> >> >> >>> military
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> cultivates. It is good for morale, it is good
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> for
>> >> >> unit
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> cohesiveness,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> most importantly, it is but one component of
>> what
>> >> >> makes
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> our
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> military
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> mightiest in the world. Again, this image is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> not
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> going
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> change.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Pictorial,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> which is the premiere men's forum on the web;
>> >> >> focusing
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> media,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and discussions of contemporary issues as well
>> as
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> our
>> >> >> >> >> >>> chronicled
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> past!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> For options and help, please visit the group
>> at:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Pictorial,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> which is the premiere men's forum on the web;
>> >> >> focusing
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> media,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and discussions of contemporary issues as well
>> as
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> our
>> >> >> >> >> >>> chronicled
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> past!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> For options and help, please visit the group
>> at:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group,
>> >> >> Historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Pictorial,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> which
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> is the premiere men's forum on the web;
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> focusing
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> on
>> >> >> >> >> historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> media,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> discussions of contemporary issues as well as
>> our
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> chronicled
>> >> >> >> >> >>> past!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> For options and help, please visit the group
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> at:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> - wayne.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> goto> http://waynes-nude-musicians.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> http://blueguitar.tumblr.com/
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group,
>> >> >> Historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Pictorial,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> which
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing
>> on
>> >> >> >> >> historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> media,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> discussions of contemporary issues as well as
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> our
>> >> >> >> chronicled
>> >> >> >> >> >>> past!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> For options and help, please visit the group at:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Thanks for participating in the Google Group,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Pictorial,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> which
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing
>> on
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> media,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> discussions of contemporary issues as well as our
>> >> >> >> chronicled
>> >> >> >> >> >>> past!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> For options and help, please visit the group at:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Thanks for participating in the Google Group,
>> >> Historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Pictorial,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > which
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on
>> >> >> historical
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > media,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > discussions of contemporary issues as well as our
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>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > past!
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > For options and help, please visit the group at:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a
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>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
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>> >> >> >> http://www.politicalforum.com/>
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>> Groups.
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>> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
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>> >> >> >> >> >>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Have a great day,
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Tommy
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Groups.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> For options & help see
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>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> * Visit our other community at
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>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> Mark M. Kahle H.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> > Mark M. Kahle H.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> >> >> >> >> > For options & help see
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>> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day,
>> >> >> >> >> Tommy
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> >> >> >> >> For options & help see
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> >> >> >> > For options & help see
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > * Visit our other community at
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>> >> >> >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
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>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> >> Have a great day,
>> >> >> >> Tommy
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> >> >> >> For options & help see
>> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> Have a great day,
>> >> >> Tommy
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> >> >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>> >> >>
>> >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
>> >> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
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>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Mark M. Kahle H.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> >> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>> >> >
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>> >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
>> >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> Have a great day,
>> >> Tommy
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>> >>
>> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
>> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
>> >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mark M. Kahle H.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>> >
>> > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
>> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
>> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> Have a great day,
>> Tommy
>>
>> --
>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>>
>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark M. Kahle H.
>
> --
> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>
> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
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Have a great day,
Tommy

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