MJ was right... voting is a privilege, not a right. The rules governing that privilege vary from state to state.
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Mark M. Kahle H.
-- On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:30 AM, mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 ! <littlemike532@gmail.com> wrote:
every citizen has the right to vote which is why we the dred scott
laws to ensure that states do not block citizens from voting because
of race , religion or area they live in
On Oct 16, 5:59 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> voting is a state right. The rights of the feds are specifically pointed out
> in the constitution.... please show me where this one is.
>
> No politician has to register with the Federal government to run for office.
> All that run for Federal office must register in his own STATE. Those that
> run for President are only eligible to run in those states they register
> in... (50). It is and was a STATE function.
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM, mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 ! <
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> --> littlemike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > you think federal election laws are unconstitutional ?
>
> > On Oct 16, 4:09 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > We have Federal Election Laws (which are unconstitutional) so that
> > > the Republicans and Democrats can retain their positions.
>
> > > Block "Citizens" from voting?
>
> > > Regard$,
> > > --MJ
>
> > > "Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one
> > > party only no matter how big its membership may be is no freedom at
> > > all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently."
> > > --Rosa Luxemburg
>
> > > At 03:58 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:
>
> > > >we have federal election laws so that the states can not block
> > > >citizens from voting
>
> > > >On Oct 16, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I had NO idea that there exists (or ever did) a federal election.
> > They
> > > > > are entirely the purview of the individual states. If and when there
> > > > > is a federal election then the feds have a right to make or enforce
> > > > > election law.
>
> > > > > On Oct 16, 10:47 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > You have several things working against you.
> > > > > > Not only does Amendment I apply (Congress shall make no law ...
> > > > free speech),
> > > > > > there is no Power provided the Congress within the Constitution
> > > > to 'regulate' or
> > > > > > 'restrict' or otherwise 'campaigns'.
> > > > > > Money is most certainly speech -- whether it consists of
> > > > 'hiring' someone to
> > > > > > best spread your message OR the measure for the success of a
> > business or
> > > > > > enterprise.
> > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW mailing
> > > > list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First Amendment
> > > > decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and make
> > > > political films without government regulation is, it seems, the end
> > > > of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v. Federal
> > > > Election CommissionAt 12:41 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:This is a
> > > > close call.... mike.....Freedom of Speech is Freedom of
> > > > > > Speech..... but, like I said elsewhere... political donations...
> > > > > > money... is not speech (in my opinion). I would think that, as long
> > as
> > > > > > the "person" doing the speech is an "individual" then the money end
> > > > > > (advertising access costs) associated with his/her political speech
> > > > > > need not be disclosed... but when the "individual" becomes a
> > > > > > "political advocacy group" of any sort, then where the money comes
> > > > > > from should be disclosed...But, of course, there's a Criminally
> > > > > > Crooked Supreme Court Majority to contend
> > > > with.....currently.http://van-ezproxy.vancouver.wsu.edu/pag/index.html
> > > > > > U.S. Chamber of Commercehttp://www.uschamber.org
> > > > > > E-Mail: mbrs...@uschamber.org
> > > > > > 1615 H St. NW
> > > > > > Washington, DC 20062-2000
> > > > > > Phone: 202-659-6000, 800-638-6582
> > > > > > Fax: 202-463-3190 "We protect and represent you so your business
> > can
> > > > > > grow and prosper in a free market economy."
> > > > > > (http://www.uschamber.org)
> > > > > > Then there's Karl
> > > > Rove...
> >http://prairieweather.typepad.com/big_blue_stem/2010/10/suing-one-of-...
> > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:41 am, "mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 !"
> > > > > > <littlemike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > the court has opened the door for other governments to chose our
> > > > > > > leaders .
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:37 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > That s what Republican campaign fund-raising groups are doing
> > by
> > > > > > > > concealing their donors from the public.
> > > > > > > > ROTFLMAO!
> > > > > > > > Individuals, of course, have a right to privacy.
> > > > > > > > BOTH Republicans AND Democrats fo not trust Americans, but
> > > > > > > > it is with their lives (of course they are Peddling Pull to
> > maintain
> > > > > > > > their Power).
> > > > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW
> > > > mailing list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First
> > > > Amendment decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and
> > > > make political films without government regulation is, it seems,
> > > > the end of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v.
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