father and grandfather must be proven to be Islamic, it is the
minority that (as the US does) requires an oath.
On Oct 10, 1:06 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't know of any Islamic State that has a pledge of allegiance, off-
> hand,... but I'm willing to stand corrected... if you do... Annointed
> One....
> I'm not trying to be a stickler.... many Islamic States are far from
> being Democratic Republics, that foes without saying, It is doubtful
> that the Islamic States even aspire to Democratic Republic standing.
> Nevertheless, it is clear that Israel does claim to be a Democratic
> Republic and holds itself apart from it's regional neighbors because
> of it.....a bit of a setback, at the least, if that's truly the case.
>
> On Oct 10, 1:32 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Gee, Lets see........ How many of the constitutionally "Islamic
> > States" require the same of all immigrants...... lets see....
> > OH!!!!! SHIT !!!!! That would be ALL of them.
>
> > Much ado about NOTHING. Even the US requires an oath to the
> > constitution as written.... requires all immigrants to be officially
> > SECULAR yet allowing free practice in PRIVATE only.
>
> > On Oct 10, 8:47 am, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I told you on this board about my "Rush Limbaugh Pledge of
> > > Allegiance", right?
>
> > > I Pledge allegiance to the Star of David of the Zionist State of
> > > Israel and to the Racist ologarchy for which it stands, one Kigdom
> > > under the ineffable Yahweh, exclusive, with criminal license and
> > > prejudgement in favor just of Jews
>
> > > I bet you all thought I was overstating the issue....think again....
> > > here's what Aljazeera (HAR) says on this new development.
> > > nominal9
>
> > >http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/10/2010101013028364...
>
> > > The Israeli cabinet on Sunday approved a bill requiring new immigrants
> > > to pledge loyalty to the "Jewish and democratic" state.
>
> > > The language has triggered charges of racism from Arab politicians who
> > > see it as undermining the rights of the country's Arab minority.
>
> > > It has also raised tensions with Palestinians at a time when peace
> > > talks are deadlocked over Israel's refusal to extend a moratorium on
> > > new building in West Bank Jewish settlements.
>
> > > The bill is backed by Yisrael Beitenu, an ultra-nationalist party
> > > whose leader, Avigdor Lieberman, has been a vocal critic of Israel's
> > > settlement freeze.
>
> > > Sunday's vote may be a way to soften Lieberman's opposition to
> > > extending the slowdown, though officials have denied there is any
> > > connection.
>
> > > Cabinet divided
>
> > > Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, expressed his support
> > > for the proposal before the vote. "The State of Israel is the national
> > > state of the Jewish people, and it is a democratic state for all its
> > > citizenship," he said.
>
> > > "There is no other democracy in the Middle East. There is no other
> > > Jewish state in the world. Unfortunately, there are many today who
> > > tried to blur not only the unique connection of the Jewish people to
> > > its homeland, but also the connection of the Jewish people to its
> > > state."
>
> > > Although the Labour party is part of the ruling coalition in
> > > Netanyahu's government, the Israeli left has voiced significant
> > > opposition to the new citizenship bill.
>
> > > "There is a whiff of fascism on the margins of Israeli society," Isaac
> > > Herzog, the social affairs minister, who belongs to Labour, told army
> > > radio on Sunday.
>
> > > "There have been a tsunami of measures that limit rights ... I see it
> > > in the halls of the Knesset [parliament], in the commissions and
> > > departments responsible for legislation."
>
> > > Dan Meridor, a Likud party member, said the law would exclude 1.5
> > > million Palestinians who are citizens of Israel and will create a rift
> > > between them and the state.
>
> > > Palestinians critical
>
> > > Ahmad Tibi, an Arab member of the Knesset, told Al Jazeera that the
> > > bill is aimed at Palestinians - and not at Jewish newcomers to Israel
> > > - since they already enter on Israel's Jewish Law of Return.
>
> > > "Palestinians will have to say that this country is for Jews, and
> > > Palestinians are only guests. If you are saying you are democratic,
> > > you should treat citizens with equality," Tibi said.
>
> > > He said that Israel was trying to impose this on the Palestinian
> > > Authority as a pre-condition for peace talks.
>
> > > "It is time to tell the Arab summit to ask Israel to have equal rights
> > > for Palestinians," Tibi said.
>
> > > "The addition to the citizenship law is entirely racist and
> > > transparent," Mohammed Barak, an Arab legislator, said.
>
> > > "Israel's law books have long been a guide for some of the most
> > > discriminatory and racist regimes in the world and in history."
>
> > > Talks deadlock
>
> > > Direct peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, led
> > > by Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, are currently at an
> > > impasse due to Israel's refusal to extend the 10-month freeze.
>
> > > Recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is one of Netanyahu's
> > > principal demands in any eventual peace deal with the Palestinians.
>
> > > Palestinians have repeatedly rejected this as it would amount to an
> > > effective renunciation of the right of return for Palestinian
> > > refugees.
>
> > > Lieberman's Yisrael Beitenu campaigned during last year's election for
> > > a tougher version of the pledge, which would apply to Arabs born in
> > > Israel and include a promise to serve in the military or perform other
> > > national service.
>
> > > Yisrael Beitenu is the second-largest member of the governing
> > > coalition after Netanyahu's Likud party.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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