On 09/21/2010 04:52 PM, Tommy News wrote:
Source:Lesbian sgt. discharged after police outed her to Air ForceJene Newsome played by the rules as an Air Force sergeant: She never told anyone in the military she was a lesbian.The 28-year-old's honorable discharge under the U.S. military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy came only after police officers in Rapid City, South Dakota, saw a marriage certificate from Iowa -- one of the handful of U.S. states that recoganize same-sex marriage -- in Newsome's home and told the nearby Ellsworth Air Force Base.
Newsome and the American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against the western South Dakota police department, claiming the officers violated her privacy when they informed the military about her sexual orientation. The case also highlights concerns over the ability of third parties to "out" service members, especially as the Pentagon has started reviewing the 1993 "don't ask, don't tell" law.
The law does not explicitly prohibit gays or lesbians from serving in the military but requires them to serve in silence. If they acknowledge their sexual orientation or engage in a homosexual act, they can be expelled.
"I played by 'don't ask, don't tell,'" Newsome told The Associated Press by telephone.
Source:On 9/21/10, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:Cite a source, Tommy. All you ever do is spout rhetoric. Cite a source.--
On 9/21/2010 12:20 PM, Tommy News wrote:Tommy --False.Many who have been discharged have been outed by others.
On 9/21/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:Tommy Boy,
The law is quite literal...(extremely rare these days).. Don't Ask,
(the military doesn't) Don't Tell... that is left entirely up to the
individual... it must come FROM his or her mouth...( Little drum
roll ).... Not in it, to be valid as a career killer.
On Sep 21, 10:31 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *No, Keith. Wrong. *
> *There have been countless backstabbing "efforts" and vendettas to "out"
> closeted and silent members of the military, including baiting, spreading
> rumors, searching possessions and correspondence, entrapment, etc.*
> *It is those who chose to "enforce" the policy, who caused it to fail.*
> **
> *Billions have been wasted on these witch hunts and discharges.*
> *DADT is a failure. Always has been. Since 1993. *
> **
> *Repeal it NOW, no further "delay". *
>
> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > No Tom, the policy has worked fine. It has been those who chose to
> > violate the policy who have had their "lives and carreers ruined".
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> > Again, the military is no place for a "Gay Parade".......If you think that
> > rescinding the DADT policy is going to somehow allow you and your buddies to
> > get up and announce, "We're Here And We're Queer"; you are sadly mistaken.
>
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> *No, Keith, the DADT policy is a complete falure and it has never worked.
> >> *
> >> **
> >> *Thousands of lives and careers have been ruined.*
> >> **
> >> *No further biased "study" or delay should be tolerated.
> >> *
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> >> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>> No Tom, the DADT was enacted, by the Clinton Administration in 1993. The
> >>> policy has worked, successfully for seventeen years.
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> >>> Is it time to rescind the policy? I tend to agree that it is, but not
> >>> until such time as the military has a chance to weigh in, and determine the
> >>> effects of such a change in policy, and "how/what" type of policy to
> >>> implement as a replacement.
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> >>> Sexual practices has no place in our military. There have been Gays in
> >>> our military who have fought and defended our Nation since 1776. No policy
> >>> is going to change that. We especially don't want a military that is
> >>> weakened by a bunch of folks with an agenda!!
>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>>> *No, Keith.*
> >>>> **
> >>>> *The Pentagon has had since 1993 to review this failed policy which has
> >>>> ruined thousands of lives and careers.*
> >>>> **
> >>>> *No further delay is acceptable.*
> >>>> *Delay means do nothing.
> >>>> *
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> >>>> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>>> No Tom, you're missing the real issue here, blinded by some
> >>>>> secondary issue.
>
> >>>>> First, the Pentagon should have every right to review and determine how
> >>>>> repeal of DADT will effect the military. Second, and more importantly, the
> >>>>> goal by the Marxists is to lock the Republicans out of amending the proposed
> >>>>> Defense Appropriations bill now before the Congress. I don't trust the
> >>>>> likes of Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, and a host of other Marxists
> >>>>> controlling the vote over Defense Appropriations. You shouldn't either.
>
> >>>>> From CNN:
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> >>>>>http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/20/senate.defense.bill/index.html
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> >>>>> But in a statement issued Monday night, Senator Susan Collins
> >>>>> (Confused, Maine) said she would side with the rest of the GOP because the
> >>>>> Democratic leadership of the Senate "intends to shut Republicans out of the
> >>>>> debate."
>
> >>>>> Collins said she agreed with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
> >>>>> Adm. Mike Mullen, that the law is "simply not fair." But she said Senate
> >>>>> Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, should give Republicans and Democrats
> >>>>> "an equal opportunity" to offer amendments to the defense bill.
>
> >>>>> "Now is not the time to play politics, and I again call on the majority
> >>>>> leader to work with Republican leaders to negotiate an agreement so that the
> >>>>> Senate can debate the defense bill this week," Collins said.
>
> >>>>> In a separate statement, Snowe also indicated she would support a
> >>>>> Republican filibuster, saying the chamber should be allowed a full debate on
> >>>>> the measure. Snowe also questioned why the Senate would vote on repeal
> >>>>> before the military has completed its review.
>
> >>>>> "We should all have the opportunity to review that report which is to
> >>>>> be completed on December 1, as we reevaluate this policy and the
> >>>>> implementation of any new changes," Snowe's statement said.
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> >>>>> The defense authorization act, which is a broad defense policy bill,
> >>>>> would not rescind "don't ask, don't tell" until after the Pentagon completes
> >>>>> a review of the repeal's impact on the military. The review is due in
> >>>>> December and would serve as the basis for necessary certification by the
> >>>>> president, defense secretary and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff that
> >>>>> the military could handle repealing the policy.
>
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