the same Bush who campaigned on a no-nation building platform?
no, the US is not in a war with the muzzies, but Israel is, and
they're calling the shots
some don't forget
On Jul 8, 2:49 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.michigandaily.com/content/bush-us-not-war-islam
>
> On Jul 8, 9:11 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.6644/pub_detail.asp
>
> > July 3, 2010
> > The Insidious Ground Zero Mosque
>
> > Edward Cline<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/authors/id.93/author_detail.asp>
>
> > I will begin with a comparison between two buildings, because a question of
> > property rights entered recent debates and disputations about the propriety
> > of the Ground Zero mosque, the rightness or wrongness of opposing its
> > construction, and the nature of Islam itself. This mosque, to be called
> > "Cordoba House," is just a brief walk from Ground Zero in New York City. Its
> > construction, to replace a private office building damaged on 9/11, has been
> > approved by a city council. But, first allow me to discuss another building.
>
> > Years ago Korean Sun Myung
> > Moon<http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,908807-2,00.html>,
> > leader of the Unification Church, bought a defunct, former first-class hotel
> > in Manhattan, the New
> > Yorker<http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50812FD3458167493C1A...>,
> > and turned it into a center for the propagation of his religion, and also as
> > a dorm and office space for his local followers. Doubtless many readers
> > remember the Moonies, converts who had to be "de-programmed" by their
> > parents of the brainwashing these young adults had experienced in Moon's
> > "madrassas."
>
> > There were countless numbers of them all over the country, knocking on doors
> > and spreading literature about the Unification Church. They were as annoying
> > as Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons, but as immune to reason as any Witness
> > and Mormon traveling recruiter. And about as dangerous. They were squeaky
> > clean, nicely dressed and well-behaved. One had the impression they were
> > manufactured on an assembly line.
>
> > But, when Moon bought the hotel, no one objected. It was private property. I
> > am guessing that Moon got tax and zoning exemptions and the like from the
> > city government because his was a religious organization, just as I am sure
> > Faisal Abdul Rauf and his cohorts will get them for the Cordoba mosque, as
> > well.
>
> > It was inconceivable at the time that the Moonie elders were preaching
> > anti-Americanism and Moonie jihad in the hotel. No one could imagine that
> > they encouraged hate and called for conquest and replacing, with violence,
> > if necessary, the Constitution of the United States with a Moonie Compact of
> > Love and Peace. No one imagined that bombs and suicide vests were being
> > assembled in the hotel basement, or that classes were being held on how to
> > rig a vehicle to explode with the maximum number of casualties. Moonies who
> > happened to live around town outside of the hotel were not regarded with
> > suspicion by their neighbors or the authorities. No one contested Moon's
> > right to turn the property into a center for his creed (which is an amalgam
> > of pacifist tenets borrowed from other creeds, but especially the Christian).
>
> > The idea that the Moonies were planning something awful and homicidal and
> > destructive never occurred to anyone -- because no one had any reason to
> > doubt the "benign" purposes of the hotel purchase. More often than not, Moon
> > and his followers were the butt of jokes. (Try making a public joke about
> > Islam, or Mohammad, or Allah today.) And, nothing happened. No car bombs
> > exploded in Times Square, no massacres of commuters occurred in Grand
> > Central Station. No planes were hijacked and flown into the Empire State
> > Building.
>
> > The Moonies have faded from memory. The Islamists, however, do not want us
> > to forget Islam.
>
> > Islam is not a Moonie religion. Moon's religion did not attempt to
> > incorporate or integrate a political agenda with its theological agenda.
> > Islam does. Moon did not declare war on America from South Korea. Islam's
> > leading lights have, Shiite and Sunni, from all quarters where Islam reigns
> > supreme. The religious and political elements of Islam are mutually
> > supportive, complementary, and coextensive. They are based, in the Koran, on
> > *action* -- by force or fraud or dissimulation -- with the sole object of
> > conquest and anchoring Islam in the host, and soon-to-be vanquished country.
>
> > Someone remarked to me: We are not at war with Islam. War is tanks and
> > machine guns and going over the top. We cannot be at war with an ideology.
>
> > Yes, we are at war with Islam. Just as we have been at war with Kant and his
> > philosophical successors, and with John Dewey, and Marxism -- in short, with
> > every anti-individual, anti-life, anti-rights, anti-mind philosophy. it is a
> > war of ideas. "War" is not strictly a metaphor for the conflict that is
> > raging right now under our noses. Islam is a body of ideas totalitarian in
> > nature, designed to wipe out the individual and inculcate mindless obedience
> > to irrational and arbitrary dictats spoken by an angel to a barbarian
> > prophet. From a ghost. The "war" is a battle for men's minds.
>
> > Reason seeks to enable men's minds. Islam seeks to cripple them. It is as
> > simple as that.
>
> > In this culture, it is irrelevant that neither President Bush nor President
> > Obama (nor their immediate predecessors in the White House) ever declared
> > "war" against Islam, or against states that sponsor terrorism. If by chance
> > we declared war on Iran -- with full, but belated justification -- that
> > would be perceived on the Muslim or Arab Street as a declaration of war on
> > Islam. Fine, I would answer. Have it your way. You are a tribe of manqués
> > and we are about to take down one of your kingpins. Send Allah your
> > Imprecations to slay us. But do not take it out on your moral superiors if
> > nothing happens.
>
> > Many believe that opposing the Ground Zero mosque would be a violation of
> > property rights. But where do property rights enter the picture? They do
> > not, as least as far as mosque-building Muslims are concerned. Mosques are
> > centers of indoctrination and propaganda, and of exhortations to wage war
> > against the infidel -- us. Mosques are venues for spreading and entrenching
> > Islam. They are field headquarters of conquest, and they have sprung up all
> > over the country. The piety and good citizenship standing of the flocks of
> > rank-and-file Muslims are irrelevant. They subscribe to the ideology, do not
> > question it, and remain silent when their brethren blow up things and kill
> > people. Their creed commands the silence, but it is still a matter of
> > choice, of volition, and Muslims as a rule choose to remain silent. No man
> > of reason should sympathize with them.
>
> > Some have cited the 14th Amendment as an intrinsic good to be brought to the
> > defense of the builders of the Ground Zero mosque, forgetting that, first,
> > that Amendment has been violated countless ways by our own government, and
> > second, that we are indeed at war with Islam and its advocates. To iterate:
> > Just as we were at war with Nazism, another body of inimical ideas
> > (Hitler<http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/>was its
> > Mohammed, and he sought the help of Muslims to exterminate Jews in
> > Palestine), we are at war with Islam. Islam respects neither individual
> > rights, nor property rights, nor capitalism. It is a holistic vehicle for
> > conquest and subjugation of all who do not subscribe to it. Period.
>
> > Faisal Rauf may look like a kindly, gentle cleric, but that is the soft,
> > friendly face of Islam. The Koran permits falsehoods, deception, and lies --
> > *taqiya* -- in the name of Islam and Allah. The Grand Mufti of
> > Jerusalemlooked harmless and well-meaning, too. Think again.
>
> > Rauf, the leading light of the Cordoba mosque, has said publicly that the
> > Cordoba mosque is intended, among other things, to be a venue for
> > "interfaith dialogue."
>
> > However, Walid Shoebat<http://thelastcrusade.org/2010/05/27/ground-zero-mosque-â??our-goal-is-to-establish-shariahâ? />,
> > former terrorist but now a dedicated anti-Islamist, notes that, as a rule,
> > public pronouncements by prominent Muslim spokesmen are consciously intended
> > to say one thing for Western consumption, but these same spokesmen reveal
> > their thoughts in Arabic. Rauf is a prime example:
>
> > For that we searched Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf's own words – in the Arabic and
> > not what he says in English to the western media. It should shock every
> > American to find out that Faisal Abdul Rauf stated to the popular Islamic
> > media Hadiyul-Islam on May 26th, 2010 in an article by Sa'da Abdul Maksoud.
>
> > In it he states that an Islamic state can be established regardless of the
> > government being a kingdom or democracy. In another article titled *"I do
> > not believe in religious dialogue"* should alarm the ardent skeptic on the
> > mindset of the Islamic visionary who advocates establishing Islamic lobbies
> > throughout the West.
>
> > The defenders of the mosque forget, or have never grasped as a first-hand
> > understanding, that as we live in a mixed economy, we are also living in a
> > culture of mixed epistemologies and metaphysics. The 14th Amendment is only
> > as powerful as the culture that values and respects it, it is only as good
> > as the government that upholds it. So, how can one reconcile the "rights" of
> > the exponents of a religion that denies rights, in a deteriorating political
> > culture, in which individual rights are usurped daily everywhere one looks?
>
> > An argument in defense of the Cordoba mosque, based on the 14th Amendment,
> > is dependent on two conditions: that Islam is not an ideology inimical to
> > freedom, bent on conquest and subjugation, and that we are not at war with
> > it; and that our government, through the courts, is moved by an absolute
>
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