United Nations Charter and also violated The Geneva Convention. See
the Kucinich Articles of Impeachment I have provided previously for
empirical proof and documentation.
The "Bush Doctrine" was indeed illegal, and the war criminals
responsible should be prosecuted.
The blood is on the hands of the Republican party of low.
On 1/18/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dems are now pointing to Kofi Anan stating that Iraq was a violation
> of UN Charter and international law.
>
> They seem to forget that he said the same thing about Kosovo, yet we
> went in anyway.
>
> On Jan 18, 7:24 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Keithie keithie keithie
>>
>> your reich wing meanie
>>
>> how can Miss Hillary be expected to know who to support when crazy reich
>> wing t baggers are shooting at her in Yugoslavia on the tarmac because
>> Sarah
>> Palin put a target on Bosnia!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Keith In Köln
>> <keithinta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > One other interesting observation. I have had the opportunity to
>> > discuss
>> > "America" with a number of Europeans in the last two weeks,
>> > predominately
>> > Germans, but all of whom believe that the United States clearly backed
>> > the,
>> > "Wrong Side" in 1998 and should have in fact supported the Serbs.
>> > There is
>> > no question now, that the ousting of Slobodan Milosovic was a tragic
>> > mistake, and we besmirched this good man's name with allegations of
>> > genocide, when in fact, just the opposite was true.
>>
>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Keith In Köln
>> > <keithinta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> >> Sherrie Gossett is very astute:
>>
>> >> *"By election day, national polls indicated 60 percent of voters
>> >> believed
>> >> that the war had not improved the long-term security of the U.S., and
>> >> 55
>> >> percent thought that the U.S. should pull some or all of its troops
>> >> from
>> >> Iraq. The Democrats worked to further the discontent and clearly
>> >> profited by
>> >> it.*
>> >> **
>> >> *Senator Clinton cited the American military campaigns in Bosnia and
>> >> Kosovo as models of foreign engagements that she favored on moral and
>> >> strategic grounds.*
>>
>> >> *"I am a strong proponent of a national defense that is smart," she
>> >> told
>> >> CNN in August 2004. "What we need to be focused on is which president
>> >> is
>> >> more likely to make decisions that will achieve our objectives with
>> >> putting
>> >> the least amount of lives at risk," she said, adding, "You know, we
>> >> were
>> >> successful in Kosovo—and we didn't lose a single American military
>> >> person."
>> >> *
>>
>> >> *That view has been echoed by many other Democrats and some
>> >> Republicans,
>> >> too. Praising the Kosovo operations, former president Bill Clinton has
>> >> even
>> >> suggested that, under a Democrat administration, more such operations
>> >> may be
>> >> on the way."*
>>
>> >> **
>> >> *============*
>> >> **
>> >> So, what Secretary of State Clinton means, is that she sees nothing
>> >> wrong
>> >> with American military might being used as a ruse, for instance, in
>> >> diverting the American public's interests away from improprieties in
>> >> the
>> >> White House, such as covering up cum stains on an intern's
>> >> dress......As
>> >> long as we've got that covered.....(or uncovered....)
>>
>> >> **
>>
>> >> **
>>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Bruce Majors
>> >> <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> >>> The Democrats' Model War
>> >>> [image: Listen to this page using
>> >>> ReadSpeaker]<http://app.readspeaker.com/cgi-bin/rsent?customerid=5076&lang=en_us&r...>
>> >>> By Sherrie
>> >>> Gossett<http://www.atlassociety.org/category/tni-article-author/sherrie-gossett>
>> >>> [image: email page] <http://www.atlassociety.org/printmail/690> Send
>> >>> to Friend <http://www.atlassociety.org/printmail/690>
>> >>> [image: print] <http://www.atlassociety.org/print/690>Printer
>> >>> Friendly<http://www.atlassociety.org/print/690>
>> >>> [image: rss feed] <http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/articles/feed> RSS
>> >>> Feed <http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/articles/feed>
>> >>> ShareThis<http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/kosovo-bosnia-serbia-balkans-war-clinton>
>>
>> >>> [image: increase
>> >>> text]<http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/kosovo-bosnia-serbia-balkans-war-clinton>
>> >>> Larger
>> >>> Font<http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/kosovo-bosnia-serbia-balkans-war-clinton>
>> >>> [image: decrease
>> >>> text]<http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/kosovo-bosnia-serbia-balkans-war-clinton>
>> >>> Smaller
>> >>> Font<http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/kosovo-bosnia-serbia-balkans-war-clinton>
>>
>> >>> January 2007 --The 2006 U.S. elections, which put the Democrats in
>> >>> charge
>> >>> of the House and Senate, were widely described in media as a
>> >>> referendum on
>> >>> the Iraq war. Intense media scrutiny had resulted in critical reports
>> >>> on
>> >>> pre-war intelligence, the decision-making process that preceded the
>> >>> war, the
>> >>> postwar plan, and an unfolding civil war.
>>
>> >>> Books with titles such as *Fiasco*,* Imperial Hubris*, and
>> >>> *Colossus*described
>> >>> an America in denial of imperial ambitions that were destined to fail.
>> >>> Their
>> >>> authors and others ascribed to the U.S. such motives as arrogance and
>> >>> a
>> >>> willful refusal to learn from history. They characterized American
>> >>> foreign
>> >>> policy as an effort to impose democracy at gunpoint upon cultures
>> >>> either
>> >>> lacking democracy's fundamental precursors or just plain unwilling to
>> >>> abide
>> >>> by them. Prior to the election, Americans also heard multiple media
>> >>> reports
>> >>> of the worst unintended consequence of the war: the multiplying of the
>> >>> ranks
>> >>> of terrorists.
>>
>> >>> By election day, national polls indicated 60 percent of voters
>> >>> believed
>> >>> that the war had not improved the long-term security of the U.S., and
>> >>> 55
>> >>> percent thought that the U.S. should pull some or all of its troops
>> >>> from
>> >>> Iraq. The Democrats worked to further the discontent and clearly
>> >>> profited by
>> >>> it.
>>
>> >>> However, if the election was a vote of no confidence in the
>> >>> administration's conduct of the war in Iraq, it left unanswered the
>> >>> question
>> >>> of what the Democrats would view as an appropriate use of American
>> >>> military
>> >>> force in the world. It's a question most Democrats have preferred to
>> >>> dodge,
>> >>> but they have given us some disquieting clues.
>> >>> What would Democrats view as an appropriate use of American military
>> >>> force?
>>
>> >>> Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, the front-runner in national polls for
>> >>> the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, has said openly what many
>> >>> Democrats think: Democrats go to war for the right reasons and
>> >>> prosecute war
>> >>> more successfully. Prior to the 2000 presidential election, Senator
>> >>> Clinton
>> >>> cited the American military campaigns in Bosnia and Kosovo as models
>> >>> of
>> >>> foreign engagements that she favored on moral and strategic grounds.
>>
>> >>> "I am a strong proponent of a national defense that is smart," she
>> >>> told
>> >>> CNN in August 2004. "What we need to be focused on is which president
>> >>> is
>> >>> more likely to make decisions that will achieve our objectives with
>> >>> putting
>> >>> the least amount of lives at risk," she said, adding, "You know, we
>> >>> were
>> >>> successful in Kosovo—and we didn't lose a single American military
>> >>> person."
>>
>> >>> That view has been echoed by many other Democrats and some
>> >>> Republicans,
>> >>> too. Praising the Kosovo operations, former president Bill Clinton has
>> >>> even
>> >>> suggested that, under a Democrat administration, more such operations
>> >>> may be
>> >>> on the way.
>>
>> >>> So, what are these "objectives" that Senator Clinton alluded to? What
>> >>> would future war-fighting look like according to the Clinton doctrine?
>> >>> One
>> >>> has only to look at Kosovo to see the blueprint and organizing
>> >>> principle
>> >>> behind what could become the long-term future of U.S. foreign policy
>> >>> under
>> >>> the Democrats.
>> >>> A Disputed Land
>>
>> >>> Approximately the size of Connecticut, Kosovo is a province within the
>> >>> Republic of Serbia, an Eastern European country that controls one of
>> >>> the
>> >>> major land routes from Western Europe to Turkey and the Near East.
>> >>> Like the
>> >>> rest of what used to be Yugoslavia, Kosovo had a rich mix of ethnic
>> >>> groups
>> >>> and different nationalities. Ethnic Albanians, who are predominantly
>> >>> Muslim,
>> >>> make up the majority of a population of around two million. The
>> >>> presence of
>> >>> many Albanian Muslims and the Ottoman Turks over the centuries has
>> >>> left a
>> >>> countryside dotted with mosques. Meanwhile, the predominantly Orthodox
>> >>> Christian Serbs form the largest minority group. For them, Kosovo—home
>> >>> of
>> >>> the Patriarchate of Peć, the equivalent of the Vatican for Orthodox
>> >>> Christianity—is the center of their religious and national identity,
>> >>> both
>> >>> their Jerusalem and their Alamo. Other minorities present include the
>> >>> Montenegrins, Turks, Croats, Ashkali, Roma (Gypsies), and Muslim
>> >>> Slavs.
>>
>> >>> In previous centuries, the Serbs had been the most populous group in
>> >>> Kosovo, but over the years were driven out in large numbers. One
>> >>> reason was
>> >>> brutal treatment during World War II, when Nazi and Italian troops
>> >>> invaded
>> >>> Yugoslavia. Kosovo Albanians sided with the Axis Powers, helped raise
>> >>> an SS
>> >>> *Skanderbeg *division, and began a systematic slaughter and ethnic
>> >>> cleansing of Serbs, Jews, and other minorities. The fact that
>> >>> Albanians in
>> >>> the 1980s had the highest birth rate in Europe also contributed to the
>> >>> fateful demographic shift.
>> >>> Yugoslavia , Post-Tito
>>
>> >>> In the aftermath of World War II, Yugoslavia became a socialist
>> >>> successor
>> >>> state to the monarchic Kingdom of Yugoslavia, formed after World War
>> >>> I.
>> >>> Under Marshal Tito, Yugoslavia's many ethnic, national, and religious
>> >>> groups
>> >>> were held in check with an iron hand and cynical machinations, which
>> >>> included playing one ethnic group against another. So it's not
>> >>> surprising
>> >>> that in the power vacuum created when Tito died on May 4, 1980,
>> >>> thousands of
>> >>> students poured into the streets of Kosovo's capital, Pristina,
>> >>> demanding
>> >>> that Kosovo be made an independent republic. News outlets and analysts
>> >>> reported that some Albanians wanted republic status so that they could
>> >>> secede and become part of neighboring Albania, then the most orthodox
>> >>> Communist country in the region.
>>
>> >>> As this movement spread, a ruthless crackdown from Belgrade followed.
>> >>> In
>> >>> 1981, Albanian riots broke out and were put down violently by Yugoslav
>> >>> forces. Kosovo came under virtual military rule, with curfews and
>> >>> other
>> >>> emergency measures provoking more resentment. The discontent was
>> >>> compounded
>> >>> by a country-wide financial crisis. Despite large-scale national
>> >>> investment
>> >>> in Kosovo, and the fact that the province received the lion's share of
>> >>> all
>> >>> federal aid in the country,
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> --
> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>
> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
> * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
--
Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
Have a great day,
Tommy
--
Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
* Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
* It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
* Read the latest breaking news, and more.
No comments:
Post a Comment