government don't you Keith?
On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> But you realize that we live in a republican form of government don't you
> Tom? We don't live in a democracy in the literal sense.
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> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am not dodging the question.
>>
>>
>> I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that
>> statement.
>> I believe in Democracy. I am an American.
>>
>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> > Why are you dodging the question, Tommy?
>> >
>> > You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two
>> > systems of government you think we should follow being silly?
>> >
>> > The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe
>> > you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it.
>> >
>> > Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you
>> > prefer being called a collectivist.
>> >
>> > *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to,
>> > or characteristic of, collectivism.*
>> > *
>> >
>> > *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be
>> > owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive
>> >> question?
>> >>
>> >> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist.
>> >>
>> >> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either.
>> >>
>> >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> >>> Should have read:
>> >>>
>> >>> Tommy,
>> >>>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we
>> >>>> should follow?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution
>> >>>> are
>> >>>> privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate
>> to
>> >>>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free
>> >>>> market.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of
>> producing
>> >>>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized
>> >>>> government that often plans and controls the economy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >>>>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you
>> >>>>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals,
>> >>>>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is
>> >>>>> possible.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists.
>> >>>>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and
>> >>>>> repetitive.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are
>> >>>>> anti-American.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism,
>> >>>>>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate
>> >>>>>> speech"
>> >>>>>> by
>> >>>>>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a
>> >>>>>> socialistic
>> >>>>>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market
>> >>>>>> economy,
>> >>>>>> are
>> >>>>>> ignorant.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually,
>> I
>> >>>>>> have a
>> >>>>>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They
>> >>>>>> are
>> >>>>>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these
>> >>>>>> folks
>> >>>>>> fall into one of two categories:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They
>> >>>>>> don't
>> >>>>>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased
>> >>>>>> mainstream
>> >>>>>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> time
>> >>>>>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or
>> the
>> >>>>>> root
>> >>>>>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to
>> >>>>>> believe
>> >>>>>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to
>> realize
>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative
>> >>>>>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes.
>> Further,
>> >>>>>> (and
>> >>>>>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of
>> >>>>>> knowledge
>> >>>>>> of
>> >>>>>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals
>> and
>> >>>>>> tenets
>> >>>>>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World,
>> >>>>>> bar
>> >>>>>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding
>> >>>>>> fathers
>> >>>>>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do
>> >>>>>> understand
>> >>>>>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one
>> >>>>>> important
>> >>>>>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the
>> >>>>>> United
>> >>>>>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth
>> >>>>>> world
>> >>>>>> Nation-State.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> There is literally no other option.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and
>> >>>>>> filled
>> >>>>>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts,
>> >>>>>> all
>> >>>>>> they
>> >>>>>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical
>> >>>>>> far
>> >>>>>> left,
>> >>>>>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the
>> >>>>>> George
>> >>>>>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks.
>> >>>>>> All
>> >>>>>> they can do, is attack the messenger.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies.
>> >>>>>>
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>> >>>>
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>> >>>>
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>> >>> *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal
>> >>> Government*
>> >>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
>> >>>
>> >>> *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure.
>> >>>
>> >>> *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be
>> >>> governed are weak.*
>> >>>
>> >>> *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really
>> >>> happening. What
>> >>> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior
>> >>> public relations."
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>> >>>
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>> >
>> > *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal
>> > Government*
>> > http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
>> >
>> > *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure.
>> >
>> > *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be
>> > governed are weak.*
>> >
>> > *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really
>> > happening. What
>> > separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior
>> > public relations."
>> > - Marc Stevens
>> >
>> > "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that
>> > cannot be."
>> > - Thomas Jefferson****
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>> Have a great day,
>> Tommy
>>
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