On Oct 15, 8:16 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Evening Members,
>
> Recently, we have had several members, (Well.....Really only one, Tom For
> News) accuse me of being an "Islamophobe", (as well as being a Homophobe,
> a Wingnut, and God only knows what other accusations have been tossed my
> way!! <Grin>!!) We also witnessed Joy "I Am The Epitome Of A Moonbat"
> Behar, and Whoopie "Guinan Not A Jew" Goldberg walk off the set of the
> television show, "The View" yesterday, when political pundit Bill
> O'Reilly stated that it was Muslims who blew up the World Trade Towers in
> New York City on September 11, 2001. Because of these recent events, I
> choose to respond.
>
> I don't think I am an Islamophobe. I'll let you, the members who choose to
> read this epistle determine whether you believe I am an Islamophobe....Or
> not.
>
> There has been a lot of discussion about, "Fundamentalist Muslims"; as
> compared to so-called, "Moderate Muslims". We have seen for instance, how
> "Moderate Muslims" lived a fairly western lifestyle, and many of us recall
> the peaceful Islamic culture in the Nation-State formerly known as
> Yugoslavia, and in other parts of Eastern Europe.
>
> Today, if you were to visit that region, *e.g.;* Kosovo, Albania,
> Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Republica Srpska; and see the ethnic
> cleansing.....Not the ethnic cleansing purportedly by Slobodan Milosevic and
> the Serbs, but by fellow Muslims, those that are both Sunni and Shia; I
> surmise that folks like Joy Behar and Whoopi would be shocked!
>
> The divergence, is exactly what I have been espousing here in
> PoliticalForum: That what many term, "Fundamentalists" or "radical"
> Islamists, (I hate the term, "Islamo-Fascists"; I think the term is an
> oxymoron) but my point being, is that those that are more "orthodox"
> Muslims, or "Fundamentalist Muslims" are in fact killing those Muslims who
> have adopted what many perceive as a "moderate", western way of life.
>
> Many "Liberals"; or those who are not well informed on the all
> encompassing aspects of Islam, tend to blame the United States and Western
> Culture in general, for "oppressing" Muslims, forcing the Islamic faithful
> to take extreme action to defend their cultures and beliefs from "Western
> imperialism". This is really far from true, and I will try and demonstrate
> as succinctly as possible.
>
> Islam's roots are well documented, originating with a supernatural
> experience in a cave that left a young Mohammad with the firm belief that
> the archangel Gabriel had summoned him to be God's messenger on Earth.
>
> I don't think that anyone knowledgeable will dispute, that Islam in and of
> itself, was born in violence. Not only did the angel Gabriel allegedly try
> to choke Mohammad to death at one point, but so did Mohammad's tribe, the
> "Quraysh".
>
> From its very inception, Islam has been about a fight to survive. Mohammad
> called this principle "*Jihad*", and drew two distinctions. Ultimately the
> greater jihad, "*Jihad al Akbar*", is the struggle to perfect oneself, the
> struggle to be a better person in the eyes of Allah. Mohammad nevertheless
> emphasized, especially throughout the Medina Suras in the Q'uran, that the
> lesser jihad, *"Jihad al Asghar"; e.g.; *the struggle to defeat infidels,
> non-believers and opponents who threatens (or has ever threatened!) the
> faith, is the primary means for the manifestation of Islam upon our World.
> **
> There is no question that of all the Western religions, *e.g.;* Judaism,
> Christianity, and Islam, at one point in time, Islam was the most modern,
> and I dare say "enlightened", for lack of a better word. When we were still
> cutting the entrails out of anyone who dare spoke against the King, Islam
> was far more progressive, at least by 11th and 12th Century standards. The
> World's arts and sciences were at the forefront in Islam. As I have
> stated previously, whereas Christianity and Judaism have reformed, Islam has
> never reformed.
>
> From the time that Mohammad wrote the Suras in both Medina and Mecca, (which
> are in total conflict with one another in my opinion) the Muslim religion
> spread across the entire Arabian Peninsula, north into Persia (Iran), and
> westward into Palestine, Egypt, Algeria and Morocco. Eventually, it crossed
> the Mediterranean Sea into Spain and worked its way up the central Asian
> trade routes to the Balkans, to what is now known as Germany/the Chechen
> Republic/Central Western Europe.
>
> As Islam spread, Islamic leaders ruled each new country through a
> "Caliphate"; *e.g.*; a theocratic governing body presided over by a
> supreme religious authority and his council of religious leaders. They not
> only set the moral agenda for the country but, by *Sharia*, determined what
> actions of the state were approved by Mohammad -- and more importantly, what
> actions were not.
>
> What many in the West don't understand or comprehend, is that "Sharia", to
> both moderates, and "Orthodox" or "Fundamentalist Muslims"; crosses all
> boundaries of life, to include political, economic, religious, personal,
> hygienic, attire, food, etc. There is nothing at all to compare this
> concept with here in the United States of Europe. Sharia is all
> encompassing. Even the concept of loving one's Nation, or patriotism is not
> at all the same. There are no examples to give, but try and picture your
> Minister or Priest dictating to you what to wear; what to eat; who to vote
> for; how often to bathe, and the exact precepts of personal hygiene. I'm
> not talking about your Priest or Minister "Suggesting" what to wear, or
> eat, I am talking about your Priest or Minister MANDATING what you will
> wear each and every day, and what you will eat, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
> etc., etc. Again, this is such a foreign concept, that it seems almost
> laughable, but nevertheless, ALL Muslims, to include those that we consider,
> "Moderate" are under the dictates of Sharia. To not follow the dictates
> of Sharia, qualifies you as an infidel, and infidels.....Well, read some of
> the Suras from the Holy Q'uran that I have listed below.
>
> As stated, there is no distinction between Sharia as it applies to politics,
> religion, economics, etc. This is such a foreign concept to most of us
> that have been brought up in Western culture, that it is hard to
> rationalize. Where there is total conflict, is when Muslims try to apply
> Sharia, which is the way that ALL Muslims MUST live, within Western
> Society. This discord cannot be harmonized.
>
> By example, women are chattel, literally owned by their fathers until such
> time as they are married, and then their husband owns them. He can own four
> wives.....And a fifth wife for short durations, to satisfy those, "Human
> Urges" that Allah has bequeathed to mankind. The penalty for a woman who
> might have these types of "Human Urges" is immediate, painful and
> unmerciful death. An excellent source for Islamic jurisprudence can be
> found here on Google; enter: "*Jurisprudence and Islamic Rulings, Part 4 **By
> Muhammad Saed Abdul-Rahman" *which will take you to "Google Books."* *Go
> to Page 73, through 75, and see the reasoning!
>
> I wonder how Whoopie and Joy would take to being owned?
>
> This same logic goes for Tom. To think that Tom can openly advocate his
> Gay Agenda within Islam is laughable. I have attached a few photos for
> Tom's review to this post. The pictures are not of Homosexuals who were
> openly gay, but instead, were accused of covert homosexuality. By
> example, Mohammad in several Haddiths says:
>
> *From the Hadith:*
>
> *There are several lesser hadiths stating, "if a man comes upon a man, then
> they are both adulterers," *"If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both
> Adulteresses,"; and, "When a man mounts another man, the throne of God
> shakes"; and "Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it
> is being done to."
>
> *Abu Dawud (4462)* - The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be
> upon him) said, *"Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot,*(Lot)
> * execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.".*
>
> *Abu Dawud (4448)* - "*If a man who is not married is seized committing
> sodomy, he will be stoned to death."* (Note the implicit approval of
> sodomizing one's wife).
>
> Of course, many think that it was just a sign of the times that Mohammad
> took a nine ("9") year old bride, Aiesha. Could be, that Aiesha was way
> beyond her nine years, I don't know. We do know that the same rules don't
> apply in "Paradise", where martyrs for the cause of Allah enjoy an orgy of
> virgins and *"perpetual youth"* Q'uran (56:17) or otherwise known as *
> "boys"* Q'uran (52:24).
>
> And then, Qur'an (*See* Q'uran at 76:19) bluntly states, *"And immortal boys
> will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as
> scattered pearls."* Technically, the mere presence of boys doesn't
> necessarily mean sex, however it is strongly implied from the particular
> emphasis on the effeminacy, handsomeness and "freshness" of the boys. The
> female virgins of paradise are also compared as pearls (*See* Q'uran at
> 56:23). I am not implying that there is a link between homosexuality and
> pedophilia here anymore than I am implying one between heterosexuality and
> pedophilia.....Nevertheless, Mohammad did prefer a nine year girl as his
> wife.....
>
> We outlaw those Christian Denominations that would engage in illicit drugs,
> in order to purportedly "See God" more clearly. Of course it is illegal
> for one to sacrifice the vestal virgin on the alter in the name of God, or
> any religion. We have outlawed polygamy for Mormons, and other
> Christian Denominations. Not so with Islam. We continue to allow for
> this religion to be in total conflict, on a number of different fronts,
> within our very borders, in the name of "Religious Tolerance" and political
> correctness.
>
> Today, it is those Orthodox, or "Fundamentalist Muslims" that control Islam
> in the 21st Century. For whatever reason, we don't hear the purported
> "Moderate Muslims" speak out on the totally divergent tenets of Islam, as
> they are practiced in Western Civilization. Do
> ...
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