Monday, November 21, 2011

Re: Ron Paul: Hopelessly Naive or Just Plain Stupid?

lets reject 3 wars in the med. sea area out of hand along with over
900 bases in over 130 countries... just what description do you place
on that. (those numbers do NOT count embassy and consular staffs and
protective details)

On Nov 20, 3:41 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Bruce,
>
> Dr. Paul  said it, during one of the debates,  (I think the third debate)
>
> I don't necessarily agree with most of what Mark just wrote, although I
> think it simplifies the status of the United States' Middle Eastern Foreign
> Policy.   I reject the notion that the United States is some type of an
> interventionist war mongering Nation.   That's simply not true.
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I doubt he said that
>
> > On Sunday, November 20, 2011, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > That's funny. I could have sworn some raghead Jihadists destroyed a
> > > marine> barracks, two US Embassies in Africa, and almost sunk a
> > > warship in the> 1990′s and ended up killing 3,000 Americans on our own
> > > soil in a few> minute's time one fine September morning.
>
> > > Lets see..... the present course of action has seen the USA help in
> > > the FOUNDING of at least two firmly entrenched radical Islam/anti-
> > > America governments, third out of four has point blank said that if
> > > there was a choice between helping an Islamic country or the USA they
> > > would help the Islamic state.  The fourth, the one the USA has NO
> > > interest in, now or ever, is the only one that will come out of recent
> > > conflict as moderate and progressive.
>
> > > Given the constant state of "alerts" in the USA the wars have done
> > > NOTHING to make you more secure... other than to be secure in the loss
> > > of basic rights.
>
> > > Just exactly what is wrong with the "rule of law"?  Just what do you
> > > have against the constitution that is forcing you into the the "war
> > > powers" and "(un)patriot act" corner?
>
> > > The standing army is not a good idea... A well armed ...in every way..
> > > defense force is. Had the Air Force done its duty on 9-11 no planes
> > > would have hit the towers... had the ships watch done its duty the
> > > Cole would not have been harmed... etc. etc. etc.   NONE of the
> > > protocol was followed in any of these cases.. this resulted in the
> > > successful attacks.
>
> > > I have "0" problem with not allowing a plane, ship, or automobile that
> > > carries a Muslim to enter US space. Just quit playing politics with
> > > the world, bomb Irans nuke plant, cut off aid to Muslim countries etc.
> > > But don't play with boots on the ground.. it has not worked in over 50
> > > years.
>
> > > On Nov 20, 9:26 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Ron Paul said today that he could see no possible reason to ever launch
> > >> military action or initiate a war.
>
> > >> I'm convinced now, that Ron Paul has become a complete buffoonish
> > nitwit,
> > >> either hopelessly naive, or plain stupid. I'd like to hope it's the
> > former,
> > >> but as the days wear on and I listen to his insane anti-war rantings,
> > I'm
> > >> not so sure anymore.
>
> > >> How can anyone even consider this 'Feel-The-Love' Libertarian for the
> > helm
> > >> of Commander-In-Chief?
>
> > >> Jihadists all over the world are vowing our destuction. Ahmadinejad of
> > Iran
> > >> is vowing to wipe out "The Great Satan" and usher in the Islamic
> > Messiah.
> > >> Nukes are being sought by Al Qaeda and being developed by Jihad states.
> > >> Plans for mass death and mayhem in American neighborhoods and schools
> > have
> > >> been recovered from Jihad base camps.
>
> > >> Ron Paul says he sees no possible reason to EVER launch military action
> > or
> > >> go to war.
>
> > >> The guy is on some serious LSD, or he has a hippie Love Fest hangover
> > with
> > >> his pals at moveon.org and other Left-wing Anti-war groups of mostly
> > 60′s
> > >> anti-war retreads.
>
> > >> No possible reason to EVER launch military action???
> > >> Hey Paulie Girl! Remember this???
>
> > >> *(Picture of the WTC)*
>
> > >> Or do you think some 17th Century letter of Marque and Reprisal would
> > >> better deal with the global beast that is militant Islam? But then, if
> > >> Jihad homicide bombers kill themselves by killing Americans then the
> > idea
> > >> of letters of marque are a bit stupid are they not?? The perps are
> > already
> > >> DEAD.
>
> > >> Of course some Libertarians not smoking a bong would think that Letters
> > of
> > >> Marque and Reprisal is a workable option – except they be hypocrites
> > >> considering they are the loudest voices of opposition to Blackwater USA,
> > >> which is essentially the posse a Letter of Reprisal would merit.
>
> > >> Yes, methinks Ron Paul has had too many tokes from the doobie or a major
> > >> contact high from his hippie fans piled in the Ron Paul '08 VW Van
> > >> considering his foray into an alternate reality where giving peace a
> > chance
> > >> defeats Jihadists hell bent on world domination.
>
> > >> But let's take a look at Ron Paul's latest Blame America Pacifistic
> > >> sonata<
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR200...>
> > >> .
>
> > >> In an interview with Washingtonpost.com's PostTalk program, the Texas
> > >> congressman said he could see "no reason" to justify military action if
> > he
> > >> were elected president. He compared the United States to a schoolyard
> > bully
> > >> and said the country has no reason to flex its muscles overseas.
>
> > >> 3,000 dead Americans whose blood cries out to us disagree with you Mr.
> > >> Paul. Of course you are of the Osama Bin Laden opinion that America
> > >> deserved 9-11, due our presence in the Middle East and the world.
>
> > >> "There's nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today," he
> > said
> > >> in the interview.
>
> > >> That's funny. I could have sworn some raghead Jihadists destroyed a
> > marine
> > >> barracks, two US Embassies in Africa, and almost sunk a warship in the
> > >> 1990′s and ended up killing 3,000 Americans on our own soil in a few
> > >> minute's time one fine September morning.
>
> > >> "I mean, we could defend this country with a few good submarines. If
> > >> anybody dared touch us we could wipe any country off of the face of the
> > >> earth within hours.
>
> > >> Oh really? And what nation should we have wiped off the earth after
> > 9-11?
> > >> Afghanistan? Saudi Arabia? Yemen? Egypt? All four?
>
> > >> You bother to READ Islamic prophecy and what both Bin laden and
> > Ahmadinejad
> > >> WANT Mr. Paul?
>
> > >> Of course not.
>
> > >> Otherwise you would not be an appeasement stooge for them, playing into
> > >> their foremost desires to martyr entire Muslim nations before the final
> > >> great battle they promise will destroy the West.
>
> > >> And here we are, so intimidated and so insecure and we're acting like
> > such
> > >> bullies that we have to attack third-world nations that have no military
> > >> and have no weapon."
>
> > >> It was amazing what their trained warrior Jihadists were able to
> > accomplish
> > >> with just a few boxcutters and some training on U.S. soil thanks to our
> > >> Immigration policies.
>
> > >> 3,000 American dead. Billions in destruction.
>
> > >> Wonder what the same kind of barbarians would be able to accomplish WITH
> > >> substantive weapons and the willpower to use them to kill us all Mr.
> > Paul?
>
> > >> Nah, your feeble mind refused to grasp reality and the concept the 9-11
> > >> reality woke us up to.
>
> > >> Ron Paul, you are become a disgrace. An embarrassment. Just like the
> > >> hippies of old – you are high and you stink.
>
> > >> If we keep listening to this foreign policy idiot, we're going to need
> > some
> > >> heavy ludes to calm us down, but Ron Paul is already there on the mellow
> > >> yellow submarine of psychedelic pacifism. Pass the 'shrooms and get
> > ready
> > >> to go far out man, all the way back to the 1700′s when men wore wigs and
> > >> the biggest weapon was a ten pound cannonball. Yup, those days of Marque
> > >> and Reprisal are sure to put a stop to Al Qaeda today. Of course there's
> > >> this little problem with the fact Congress passed a law forbidding the
> > >> assassination of any foreign leaders or rogues – but hey – whose
> > counting
> > >> facts? Let's wrap ourselves in the parchment of the Constitution and
> > >> pretend the real world melts in it's presence.
>
> > >> Kindof how our faces seem to melt with the heavy drugs Ron Paul must be
> > >> freebasing.
>
> > >> Someone wake up Ronnie there – before some Jihadist hands him a hooka
> > next
> > >> and he smokes some more appeasement propaganda.
>
> > >>http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/ron-paul-is-hopelessl.
> > ..
>
> > >>  9-11.jpg
> > >> 112KViewDownload
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> > >>  Paul2012..jpg
> > >> 185KViewDownload
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