Thursday, April 28, 2011

Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

Dear J. Ashley: You must be very gullible. Two wolves and a sheep
deciding what's for dinner is a "To the victor belongs the spoils
government", NOT a democracy! In a democracy, the individual has
VALUE that can't be exploited simply because there is a disagreement.
The present split-down-the-aisle Democrat vs. Republican game of
politics is nothing like a democracy. Take this example: 100 people
are sailing through a storm for America. The great danger causes the
100 people to vote whether or not to turn back or go on. 51 people
say, "Go on!". Does that mean that the 49 who wanted to turn back can
now have their possessions taken away, and to be put into servitude
for the good of the 51? Hell no! The winning of a vote NEVER allows
taking away the hard earned possessions of others. When someone wins
an election, their job is to represent ALL of their constituents, not
just the ones who voted for a given rascal! — J. A. Armistead —
Patriot

On Apr 26, 5:36 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> John,
>
> You are a laugh a minute. "Fair play and democracy shall have supremacy
> in the USA!" Really? Who decides what is "fair play and democracy"?
>
> What is "fair play"?
>
> We know that democracy is nothing more than two wolves and a sheep
> deciding on what to eat. That's how we got into the mess we're in.
>
> On 04/26/2011 01:06 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Mark:  NOT if I require that all public employees and public officials
> > SWEAR, on penalty of loss of one's job for employees, and penalty of
> > death for public officials, if anyone dares to violate this one
> > sentence: "Fair play and democracy shall have supremacy in the USA!"
> > The 40% or so of good-for-nothing socialist/communist liberals can
> > save themselves the trouble of voting, because my New Constitution
> > bans socialism and communism, so those votes, in whatever numbers,
> > will be ineffectual.  No labor unions nor minority groups will have
> > more power than one-person-one-vote.  And anyone lobbying for anything
> > will be jailed for three years.  Get the picture?  My democracy-on-
> > demand Republic works, because I permanently hamstring anyone with
> > socialist/communist notions.  —  John A. Armistead — Patriot
> > On Apr 25, 1:46 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmka...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> Johnathan is no Anarchist... but your cry (in you rantings and your
> >> "constitution") for "more democracy" IS indeed socialistic communism.
>
> >> On Apr 25, 7:15 am, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>
> >>> Mark:  Tell that to J. Ashley.  He's holding up Belgium as the ideal
> >>> of the world, and Jonathan is an out-and-out anarchist.  —  J. A. A. —
> >>> On Apr 24, 11:37 pm, Mark<markmka...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>> There is no "anarchy in Belgium:
> >>>> *an·ar·chy*/ˈanərkē/Noun
> >>>> 1. A state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
> >>>> 2. Absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as
> >>>> a political ideal.
> >>>> It is not history, it is current events.
> >>>> If you are writing a constitution you should have known this. You should
> >>>> also know that absolute Democracy, absolute Communism and Socialism are for
> >>>> the most part identical in practice (if it were possible)
> >>>> To say we need more Democracy as you often do is the same as saying we need
> >>>> more Communism and or Socialism....
> >>>> Just how ignorant are you ??
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> >>>>> Mark:  Please find yourself a history buff.  I'm not the least
> >>>>> interested in anarchy, in Belgium or anywhere!  — J. A. A. —
> >>>>> On Apr 22, 4:33 pm, Mark<markmka...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>>> And it still functions without the lawmakers.... Go figure.
> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jonathan Ashley<
> >>>>>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>   John,
> >>>>>>> "In terms of comparative social spending on welfare-related programs as
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>> percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP), Denmark ranks first,
> >>>>>>> spending more than 29 percent of GDP on its welfare-related programs.
> >>>>> Next
> >>>>>>> is Sweden (nearly 29 percent), followed by France, Germany, Belgium,
> >>>>>>> Switzerland, Austria, and Finland. The United Kingdom ranks in the
> >>>>> middle of
> >>>>>>> the pack in 13th place (nearly 22 percent of GDP). The United States
> >>>>> ranks
> >>>>>>> near the bottom, in 26th place (out of 29), spending less than 15
> >>>>> percent of
> >>>>>>> its GDP on social welfare programs. The United States ranks just ahead
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>> Ireland, Mexico, and South Korea."
> >>>>>>>http://pagerankstudio.com/Blog/2011/03/what-is-welfare-state/
> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>> On 04/22/2011 08:41 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>> On average, yes they are!  Few in Belgium look to government for
> >>>>>>> handouts.  In the USA, close to 45% want a government handout.
> >>>>>>> Anything over 5% is excessive.  But that's why I've written my New
> >>>>>>> Constitution—to get government out of the hand-out, pull-the-strings
> >>>>>>> business!   —  John A. Armistead —  Patriot
> >>>>>>>    On Apr 21, 9:56 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <
> >>>>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>   So, you're saying the People of Belgium are better People than those
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>> the United States?
> >>>>>>>   J. Ashley:  Run your experiments in Belgium, then!  The USA would be
> >>>>>>> in civil war...   � J. A. A. �
> >>>>>>> On Apr 21, 12:04 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <
> >>>>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>   John,
> >>>>>>>     It is highly doubtful that we would return to the stone age without
> >>>>>>> government. Belgium has been without a national government for more
> >>>>> than
> >>>>>>> 313 days and "Belgians say the absence of a government doesn't make
> >>>>> much
> >>>>>>> of a difference in their daily lives."
> >>>>>>>     On 04/20/2011 08:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>     Jonathan:  You are showing some smarts there!  Since I am an untra-
> >>>>>>> conservative capitalist, I don't like being... "left" of anyone,
> >>>>>>> because that would seem to make me... a God-damned liberal.  I
> >>>>>>> deliberately avoided using the "L" word, because I am the exact
> >>>>>>> opposite.  If your ego considers being an anarchist more conservative
> >>>>>>> than me, consider this: The USA would return to the 'stone ages'
> >>>>>>> within one month of there being no government(s).  So, your "ideal" of
> >>>>>>> no taxation and no government won't benefit a soul on Earth.  Is
> >>>>>>> having you "get real" too much to ask?  ï¿½  J. A. Armistead �
> >>>>>   Patriot
> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 12:50 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <
> >>>>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>   John,
> >>>>>>> Since anarchy is absence of government, how can one be "right" of
> >>>>>>> anarchy? (I don't actually expect an answer, as you NEVER answer
> >>>>>>> questions posed to you.)
> >>>>>>> On 04/20/2011 01:54 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>   Jonathan:  For you, anything 'right' of anarchy is socialist.  I
> >>>>>>> suggest you write your one paragraph constitution banning government.
> >>>>>>> Unless you are from the stone ages, you won't survive very long on
> >>>>>>> your own.  ï¿½  J. A. A. �
> >>>>>>> On Apr 18, 11:53 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <
> >>>>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>   But John, you're the one who has written a socialist constitution.
> >>>>>>> On 04/18/2011 08:31 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>   Jonathan:  Mainly he's done that by attacking the capitalist system
> >>>>>>> that made this country great; and by supposing that government should
> >>>>>>> control everything (with him in charge).  The fact that you even ask
> >>>>>>> that question confirms my initial gut reaction that you are a
> >>>>>>> socialist-communist, like 95% of Democrats are.  The remaining 5% are
> >>>>>>> just stupid.  You're in both of those groups.  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �
> >>>>>>> Patriot
> >>>>>>> On Apr 18, 3:03 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <
> >>>>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>   John,
> >>>>>>> That you own stock in a company that routinely downgrades websites
> >>>>> based
> >>>>>>> on "link relevance" over "content relevance" says much about your
> >>>>>>> credibility regarding the understanding of what freedom of expression
> >>>>> means.
> >>>>>>> That you believe Obama "has caused more economic and social harm to the
> >>>>>>> USA than any other person who ever lived, including Hitler" seems
> >>>>>>> ludicrous. Just how has he (as an individual) been able to pull off
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>>> tremendous task?
> >>>>>>> On 04/17/2011 09:05 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>   Dear Mark:  I own Google stock.  It's an American multinational
> >>>>>>> Corporation that's headquartered in Mountain View, California.  Google
> >>>>>>> World shows the new complex quite well.  In many ways you are very
> >>>>>>> naive.  Your obvious desire to protect Barack Obama's neck from the
> >>>>>>> noose is tantamount to looking-the-other-way to those who commit
> >>>>>>> TREASON every day of their existence.  Would you put on moderation
> >>>>>>> someone who proposes that Libyan President Kadafi should be killed?
> >>>>>>> Do you suppose it is Google's obligation to protect those who kill
> >>>>>>> their citizens?  Hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans have
> >>>>>>> committed suicide because of the bad economy and the lack of jobs
> >>>>>>> resulting from Obama's socialist-capitalist policies.  He has caused
> >>>>>>> more economic and social harm to the USA than any other person who
> >>>>>>> ever lived, including Hitler.
> >>>>>>> Treason is a recognized capital offense.  Those in our government and
> >>>>>>> in our law enforcement who don't press to have that bastard arrested,
> >>>>>>> tried and hanged are themselves in violation of the Constitution for
> >>>>>>> giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  Keith suggested that you,
> >>>>>>> Jonathan and MJ are anxious to read my next "missive".  He's viewed
> >>>>>>> you all in a favorable light, before.  As for me, I suspect you are so
> >>>>>>> screwed-up in the head that you are both for and against having a
> >>>>>>> better government.  That means you have schizophrenia.  Get some couch-
> >>>>>>> time, Mark.  You need it!  ï¿½  J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>>>>>> On Apr 16, 10:28 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmka...@gmail.com>  <
> >>>>> markmka...@gmail.com>            wrote:
> >>>>>>>   Einstein,
> >>>>>>> Again, you mistake me for someone that is liable under the present, or
> >>>>>>> your future, US Constitution. The message you received is the standard
> >>>>>>> message sent to all new or moderated members, get used to it. It
> >>>>>>> originates from outside the US and is also not liable under US law.
> >>>>>>> Isn't the internet grand when the originating country has the
> >>>>>>> responsibility for what is or is not allowed under their law(s).
> >>>>>>> On Apr 16, 7:11
>
> ...
>
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