Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

J. Ashley: You have failed to come up with a way to have the USA
survive with anarchy and zero taxes—your ideal. So, bug-off,
airhead. — J. A. A. —
>
On Apr 21, 9:47 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> John,
>
> You have failed to come up with a plan for putting YOUR New Constitution
> before the People for a vote.
>
> > Jonathan:  You get only one vote.  Whether or not my New Constitution
> > ratifies will be determined by the popular vote of the People, without
> > any state boundaries�the way all presidential elections must be in
> > order to be fair!  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �
> > On Apr 21, 11:53 am, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > wrote:
> >> INLINE:
>
> >> On 04/20/2011 08:25 PM, NoEinstein wrote:>  Jonathan:  You should move to Alaska and build yourself a log cabin in
> >>> the wilderness.
> >> How do you know that I don't live in a log cabin in Alaska?>  Since you would be living by your own hand, you would
> >>> have nothing to be taxed, and thus should be happy.
> >> I do not pay income taxes now.>     The POWER in my
> >>> New Constitution is revealed only by having a problem, then reading my
> >>> document and realizing that the solution to that problem is spelled-
> >>> out!
> >> YOUR New Constitution does not (and never will have) any "POWER." It
> >> will never be enacted.>  Frequently, the answers are found on several non-contiguous
> >>> pages.  But anyone who can read will see that they are protected.
> >> Can you say: convoluted.>  For
> >>> example: Though the words "speeding ticket" are never used, I can
> >>> guarantee you that no municipality in the country will ever pull over
> >>> anyone for a victimless crime.  My New Constitution prohibits having
> >>> any "fines" go to the government.  So, there is no motive for pulling
> >>> anyone over, since none of that fine can go to defray the cost of
> >>> government.
> >> How do you propose to enforce such a guarantee?>  Fines can be used for helping groups like United Way,
> >>> however.
> >> That would still fall under the category of "theft" of my property.>  If the police pull you over, it is they who will be most in
> >>> jeopardy of getting fired or jailed if they aren't deferential to
> >>> you.  And no person is required to show their �ID� to anyone.  The
> >>> police can�t, on a whim, stop anyone and ask to see �your papers� like
> >>> Nazis did in Germany.  They must be respectful of the people, unless
> >>> someone is known (beyond reasonable doubt) to have committed some
> >>> crime.  Then, and only then can the police play their game of cops and
> >>> robbers. � J. A. A. �
> >> Again, how do you propose to enforce such a guarantees?
>
> >>> On Apr 20, 12:31 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> John,
> >>>> As usual, I find several problem with what you wrote.
> >>>> 1) YOUR New Constitution is so convoluted that those who gained power
> >>>> under it would be using it for a doormat within months of its passage.
> >>>> (That point is mute, however, since YOUR New Constitution will NEVER
> >>>> gain acceptance.)
> >>>> 2) Any form of government that requires me -- through taxation (e.g.,
> >>>> theft) -- to perpetuate its existence is unacceptable.
> >>>> 3) Civil liberties are privileges that are granted. That is in direct
> >>>> opposition to freedom. Freedom is "a state of exemption from the power
> >>>> or control of another." If a government exists, those living under its
> >>>> dictates (however benevolent they may appear), are never free. Under any
> >>>> form of government, freedom is always illegal.
> >>>> 4) Government is "social engineering."
> >>>> On 04/20/2011 01:32 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>> Dear Jonathan:  I read your self description of your being an
> >>>>> anarchist.  Is that why you dislike having a New Constitution that
> >>>>> actually tells government what it can and cannot do?  The very best
> >>>>> and most efficient government would be a wise, benevolent
> >>>>> dictatorship.  But that would end when the dictator died.  Government
> >>>>> under my New Constitution is mandated to be run efficiently.  And
> >>>>> "social engineering" is banned.  You should be on my side, because my
> >>>>> New Constitution will have civil liberties that are the maximum, and
> >>>>> costs that are approaching the minimum.  That means all Americans will
> >>>>> get to keep most of their hard-earned money!  Would you rather have
> >>>>> Democrats stealing your money?  Then, rally behind my save-the-USA
> >>>>> document!  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>>>> On Apr 18, 3:03 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> John,
> >>>>>> That you own stock in a company that routinely downgrades websites based
> >>>>>> on "link relevance" over "content relevance" says much about your
> >>>>>> credibility regarding the understanding of what freedom of expression means.
> >>>>>> That you believe Obama "has caused more economic and social harm to the
> >>>>>> USA than any other person who ever lived, including Hitler" seems
> >>>>>> ludicrous. Just how has he (as an individual) been able to pull off this
> >>>>>> tremendous task?
> >>>>>> On 04/17/2011 09:05 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>> Dear Mark:  I own Google stock.  It's an American multinational
> >>>>>>> Corporation that's headquartered in Mountain View, California.  Google
> >>>>>>> World shows the new complex quite well.  In many ways you are very
> >>>>>>> naive.  Your obvious desire to protect Barack Obama's neck from the
> >>>>>>> noose is tantamount to looking-the-other-way to those who commit
> >>>>>>> TREASON every day of their existence.  Would you put on moderation
> >>>>>>> someone who proposes that Libyan President Kadafi should be killed?
> >>>>>>> Do you suppose it is Google's obligation to protect those who kill
> >>>>>>> their citizens?  Hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans have
> >>>>>>> committed suicide because of the bad economy and the lack of jobs
> >>>>>>> resulting from Obama's socialist-capitalist policies.  He has caused
> >>>>>>> more economic and social harm to the USA than any other person who
> >>>>>>> ever lived, including Hitler.
> >>>>>>> Treason is a recognized capital offense.  Those in our government and
> >>>>>>> in our law enforcement who don't press to have that bastard arrested,
> >>>>>>> tried and hanged are themselves in violation of the Constitution for
> >>>>>>> giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  Keith suggested that you,
> >>>>>>> Jonathan and MJ are anxious to read my next "missive".  He's viewed
> >>>>>>> you all in a favorable light, before.  As for me, I suspect you are so
> >>>>>>> screwed-up in the head that you are both for and against having a
> >>>>>>> better government.  That means you have schizophrenia.  Get some couch-
> >>>>>>> time, Mark.  You need it!  ï¿½  J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>>>>>> On Apr 16, 10:28 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmka...@gmail.com>        wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Einstein,
> >>>>>>>> Again, you mistake me for someone that is liable under the present, or
> >>>>>>>> your future, US Constitution. The message you received is the standard
> >>>>>>>> message sent to all new or moderated members, get used to it. It
> >>>>>>>> originates from outside the US and is also not liable under US law.
> >>>>>>>> Isn't the internet grand when the originating country has the
> >>>>>>>> responsibility for what is or is not allowed under their law(s).
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 7:11 pm, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>        wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Dear Keith:  I sensed that there was a common thread of "reasoning" in
> >>>>>>>>> those you name. My last missive, as you say, was explaining why Jews
> >>>>>>>>> are causing a lot of problems and expense while seeming to be such
> >>>>>>>>> nice people.  Israel should become a training place for successful
> >>>>>>>>> capitalism.  Only the latter can start to heal the deep wounds Muslims
> >>>>>>>>> feel.
> >>>>>>>>> Today, when I posted: "Can The Donald 'Fix' the Thin Ice that the USA
> >>>>>>>>> is skating on?"  There was a message (Mark's responsibility?) saying
> >>>>>>>>> that moderators must approve what I say.  Of course that in
> >>>>>>>>> UNCONSTITUTIONAL by both the present Constitution, and by my New
> >>>>>>>>> Constitution, which requires that Mark be fired from his job.  If you
> >>>>>>>>> butterfly conservatives are starting to understand what I'm saying,
> >>>>>>>>> then you should like to know that about 85% of my New Constitution has
> >>>>>>>>> now  been copied and pasted for interested citizens to read.  The last
> >>>>>>>>> 15% relates to problems with government which I have batted heads
> >>>>>>>>> with, first hand.  Once people begin showing appreciation for the 85%
> >>>>>>>>> of my non-Stalinesk document, the remainder will become available.
> >>>>>>>>> But NOT on this forum.  The full document will be presented as part of
> >>>>>>>>> a book containing my many essays and detailed rational for why this
> >>>>>>>>> country needs a New Constitution Now.  You guys can help speed things
> >>>>>>>>> along by talking-up my document on the NET.  ï¿½ John A. Armistead �
> >>>>>>>>> Patriot
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 4:17 pm, Keith In K�ln<keithinta...@gmail.com>        wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hey John!
> >>>>>>>>>> I am atwitter with excitement and anticipation!  Jonathan,  Mark  and MJ are
> >>>>>>>>>> already chomping at the bit to sling complimentary praise and one of them
> >>>>>>>>>> maybe even will write a haiku in your honor!  Sugarshack Literal Truth might
> >>>>>>>>>> even have an orgasm in anticipation of reading your next missive!
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 4:21 AM, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stay tuned, People!  Tomorrow I will write you another essay
> >>>>>>>>>>> explaining why the "ritual" of most of our political-governmental
> >>>>>>>>>>> processes are either unconstitutional, wasteful of economic resources,
> >>>>>>>>>>> or otherwise stupid.  ï¿½  John A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 10:44 pm, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>        wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Like me, the readers must be busy with spring buying and fix-up.  The
> >>>>>>>>>>>> present discussions will affect the fortunes and the liberty
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (happiness) of your grandchildren.  There won't be any more fortunes
>
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