You cannot have a RIGHT to vote. Joe has a right to vote. He sees a family
at the side of the road discussing their fate ... he swerves his car, slams on
his brakes and runs over ... he is going to assert his RIGHT to vote
in the matter.
Voting is a civil PRIVILEGE. The Government decides who can and cannot
vote in THEIR matters. (that it is largely a sham and illusion
notwithstanding).
Regard$,
--MJ
No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights
of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain
him. -- Thomas Jefferson to Francis Gilmer, 1816.
At 03:26 AM 10/18/2010, you wrote:
>Every American citizen has the right to vote unless those rights have
>been revoked for violating the law .
>
>On Oct 17, 9:19 am, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dred Scott had nothing to do with voting it was about possible
> > ownership nullification.
> >
> > MJ was right... voting is a privilege, not a right. The rules
> governing that
> > privilege vary from state to state.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:30 AM, mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 ! <
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > littlemike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > every citizen has the right to vote which is why we the dred scott
> > > laws to ensure that states do not block citizens from voting because
> > > of race , religion or area they live in
> >
> > > On Oct 16, 5:59 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > voting is a state right. The rights of the feds are
> specifically pointed
> > > out
> > > > in the constitution.... please show me where this one is.
> >
> > > > No politician has to register with the Federal government to run for
> > > office.
> > > > All that run for Federal office must register in his own STATE. Those
> > > that
> > > > run for President are only eligible to run in those states
> they register
> > > > in... (50). It is and was a STATE function.
> >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM, mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 ! <
> >
> > > > littlemike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > you think federal election laws are unconstitutional ?
> >
> > > > > On Oct 16, 4:09 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > > We have Federal Election Laws (which are unconstitutional) so that
> > > > > > the Republicans and Democrats can retain their positions.
> >
> > > > > > Block "Citizens" from voting?
> >
> > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > --MJ
> >
> > > > > > "Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one
> > > > > > party only no matter how big its membership may be is
> no freedom at
> > > > > > all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently."
> > > > > > --Rosa Luxemburg
> >
> > > > > > At 03:58 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:
> >
> > > > > > >we have federal election laws so that the states can not block
> > > > > > >citizens from voting
> >
> > > > > > >On Oct 16, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE
> <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I had NO idea that there exists (or ever did) a
> federal election.
> > > > > They
> > > > > > > > are entirely the purview of the individual states. If and when
> > > there
> > > > > > > > is a federal election then the feds have a right to make or
> > > enforce
> > > > > > > > election law.
> >
> > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:47 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > You have several things working against you.
> > > > > > > > > Not only does Amendment I apply (Congress shall
> make no law ...
> > > > > > > free speech),
> > > > > > > > > there is no Power provided the Congress within the
> Constitution
> > > > > > > to 'regulate' or
> > > > > > > > > 'restrict' or otherwise 'campaigns'.
> > > > > > > > > Money is most certainly speech -- whether it consists of
> > > > > > > 'hiring' someone to
> > > > > > > > > best spread your message OR the measure for the success of a
> > > > > business or
> > > > > > > > > enterprise.
> > > > > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the
> H-LAW mailing
> > > > > > > list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First Amendment
> > > > > > > decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and make
> > > > > > > political films without government regulation is, it
> seems, the end
> > > > > > > of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v. Federal
> > > > > > > Election CommissionAt 12:41 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:This is a
> > > > > > > close call.... mike.....Freedom of Speech is Freedom of
> > > > > > > > > Speech..... but, like I said elsewhere... political
> > > donations...
> > > > > > > > > money... is not speech (in my opinion). I would
> think that, as
> > > long
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > the "person" doing the speech is an "individual"
> then the money
> > > end
> > > > > > > > > (advertising access costs) associated with his/her political
> > > speech
> > > > > > > > > need not be disclosed... but when the "individual" becomes a
> > > > > > > > > "political advocacy group" of any sort, then where the money
> > > comes
> > > > > > > > > from should be disclosed...But, of course, there's
> a Criminally
> > > > > > > > > Crooked Supreme Court Majority to contend
> > > > > > > with.....currently.
> > >http://van-ezproxy.vancouver.wsu.edu/pag/index.html
> > > > > > > > > U.S. Chamber of Commercehttp://www.uschamber.org
> > > > > > > > > E-Mail: mbrs...@uschamber.org
> > > > > > > > > 1615 H St. NW
> > > > > > > > > Washington, DC 20062-2000
> > > > > > > > > Phone: 202-659-6000, 800-638-6582
> > > > > > > > > Fax: 202-463-3190 "We protect and represent you so your
> > > business
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > grow and prosper in a free market economy."
> > > > > > > > > (http://www.uschamber.org)
> > > > > > > > > Then there's Karl
> > > > > > > Rove...
> > > > >http://prairieweather.typepad.com/big_blue_stem/2010/10/suing-one-of-.
> > > ..
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:41 am, "mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 !"
> > > > > > > > > <littlemike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > the court has opened the door for other
> governments to chose
> > > our
> > > > > > > > > > leaders .
> >
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 10:37 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > That s what Republican campaign fund-raising groups are
> > > doing
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > concealing their donors from the public.
> > > > > > > > > > > ROTFLMAO!
> > > > > > > > > > > Individuals, of course, have a right to privacy.
> > > > > > > > > > > BOTH Republicans AND Democrats fo not trust
> Americans, but
> > > > > > > > > > > it is with their lives (of course they are
> Peddling Pull to
> > > > > maintain
> > > > > > > > > > > their Power).
> > > > > > > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW
> > > > > > > mailing list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First
> > > > > > > Amendment decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and
> > > > > > > make political films without government regulation is, it seems,
> > > > > > > the end of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v.
> > > > > > > Federal Election Commission- Hide quoted text -
> >
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