of your assertions about Islam hating Western influence......
There are good people Muslims and there are bad people Muslims... just
like everyone else.....nothing more and nothing less.....IMO
Are you an Islamophobe?.... I dunno... are you scared to the point of
crapping your pants over every single Muslim?... if so... probably.
On Oct 16, 11:11 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Morning Mark!
>
> I actually agree with you, and I should have expounded a little more in that
> paragraph. There are actually two different issues that we are touching
> upon.
>
> Those who are "movers and shakers" within Islam, hate everything that is
> Western. This includes our music, our Levis, our brightly lit and brightly
> colored fast food restaurants, as well as fast food restaurants in
> general. They hate Western Culture! They resent it and see it as being
> intrusive upon their own culture.
>
> We, as "Westerners" in general, and when I say "Westerners"; I mean
> Europeans, and to some extend even Israelis, for the most part don't even
> see our culture as being intrusive on other cultures.
>
> But it is. Our songs are catchy, (I guess, even Rap songs!!) our clothes
> are good looking, (as are our women) and most everything is designed from a
> marketing standpoint, to make it attractive to buy, or to shop, or to eat,
> or to wear, or to ride on/travel; etc., etc., etc.
>
> I think the point you are making, is that Islam hates this.
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Keith,
>
> > After being 100 meters from a moslem on moslem (fundamental vs.
> > moderate) car bombing a couple of weeks ago on the Gaza border I find
> > what you wrote to be well thought out yet simplified.
>
> > The area that concerns me most is this:
>
> > ****Many "Liberals"; or those who are not well informed on the all
> > encompassing aspects of Islam, tend to blame the United States and
> > Western
> > Culture in general, for "oppressing" Muslims, forcing the Islamic
> > faithful
> > to take extreme action to defend their cultures and beliefs from
> > "Western
> > imperialism". This is really far from true, and I will try and
> > demonstrate
> > as succinctly as possible. ****
>
> > It is definitely not oppression that bothers them it is the very fact
> > that western culture exists at all and is more attractive to the
> > younger generations. It does cause the very same young men to be even
> > harder on the women and gays in their society as we all know one thing
> > to be true... give a woman an iota of freedom or liberty and she wants
> > the whole thing.... it is a source of constant irritation and
> > hypocrisy for the men and requires harsher penalties for the women.
>
> > On Oct 15, 8:52 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It was about 1991, when I started discovering what Islam was really all
> > > about.
>
> > > If anything, today, we have a government that refuses to acknowledge the
> > > dangers of Islam, and keeps trying to sell the American public that its
> > only
> > > a few, "Radical, Fundamentalist" Muslims that somehow pose a threat.
>
> > > These purportedly few "Radical Fundamentalist Muslims" have caused us
> > all
> > > to change our very lifestyle. They have caused both pseudo conservative
> > > Republicans and liberal Socialist-Elitist Democrats to pass laws
> > curtailing
> > > our very liberties and freedoms.
>
> > > No, if our government were to realistically portray Islam as the danger
> > that
> > > it really is; a danger that it rightfully portrayed of the former Soviet
> > > Communist Empire, then we would have long ago closed up shop on every
> > Mosque
> > > in this Nation, and sent those Non-American Muslims packing.
>
> > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Until 1991 the US Government had most Americans fearful of a "communist
> > > > under every bed". A replacement was needed. This time there is no
> > country
> > > > to muck things up by going bankrupt.
>
> > > > Regard$,
> > > > --MJ
>
> > > > War has all the characteristics of socialism most conservatives hate:
> > > > Centralized power, state planning, false rationalism, restricted
> > liberties,
> > > > foolish optimism about intended results, and blindness to unintended
> > > > secondary results. -- Joseph Sobran
>
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