Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]

Border Patrol agents are allowed to use lethal force against rock-
throwers.
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infants? pregnant women? invalids? sociopath.

On Jun 27, 10:09 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Border Patrol agents are allowed to use lethal force against rock-throwers.
>
> Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1285859/Mexico-call...
>
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1285859/Mexico-call...>Shortly
> after the shooting, Mexican federal police chased Border Patrol agents out
> of the riverbed with rifles trained on them while a crowd on the Mexican
> side taunted the U.S. officials and threw rocks and firecrackers.
>
> Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1285859/Mexico-call...
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:25 PM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The video AND the voices on the video say otherwise
> > ---------
> > The footage contradicts statements made by the agent who shot and
> > killed secondary school student Sergio Adrian Hernandez Guereca. The
> > agent claimed he was surrounded and attacked by a group of rock-
> > throwing illegal immigrants, prompting him to use lethal force.
> > Clearly not the case - they were on the other side of the bridge.
>
> > The video shows a different lead-up to the incident. The. border
> > patrol officer can be seen approaching two of the four suspected
> > illegal immigrants who had just crossed through an opening in the
> > fence, stopping one of the suspects, and then dragging him a short
> > distance.
>
> > The officer then aims a firearm towards a kid, standing on the Mexican
> > side of the border, who is then seen running away. Just moments later
> > two gunshots can be heard, and a third gunshot is heard later on the
> > tape.
>
> > The kid lies dead from a shot in the head on the Mexican side of the
> > border.
>
> > Rocks at that distance wouldn't even hurt.
>
> > Read more:
>
> >http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/06/10/2010-06-10_new_video_raise...
>
> > On Jun 27, 9:04 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Proof ?? The video AND the voices on the video say otherwise....
>
> > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:59 PM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >  followed by legal reaction to same
> > > > --------
> > > > You're reflecting the values of a sociopath. A 14 year old kid was
> > > > killed in cold blood, and then the border guard lied about it.
>
> > > > On Jun 27, 7:35 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > It was not quite like that, now was it ?? It was indeed more like use
> > of
> > > > > deadly force (several times, rocks) followed by legal reaction to
> > same
> > > > while
> > > > > at the same time trying to keep a prisoner subdued..
>
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:39 PM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hey you kids, get off my lawn <kid throws rocks> - POW! <kid dies>
>
> > > > > > Mark, if you think that's an appropriate use of force - you're
> > gonna
> > > > > > go hungry at your next picnic, cuz you're missing a few sandwiches.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 27, 3:57 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Funny, That is not what the people watching and filming were
> > > > saying...
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > you make a far better witness from a thousand miles away. Just
> > why,
> > > > do
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > think, there has been no FORMAL protest lodged by Mexico ???
>
> > > > > > > Oh, and please tell all those young Middle Eastern girls that
> > kiss a
> > > > boy
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > leave the house without daddy's permission that rocks are not a
> > > > deadly
> > > > > > > weapon.
>
> > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:10 AM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > A man who shoots a kid across the border with his hands in the
> > air
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > guilty of murder.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 12:49 am, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Could you please fully explain the complete line of thought
> > > > behind
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > ??
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > The border control guard is the perp.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 11:20 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > In this case is not about the victim but about the perp.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On 27 Juni, 06:13, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > shot a man, just to watch him die
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > > > > > > in this case, a 14 year old kid.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 10:09 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgja26eNeY
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 Juni, 05:02, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get in the car, and drive my prisoners with me out
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > area.
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would not shoot at a kid throwing rocks.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 9:13 pm, Mustang <
> > mustangsp...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Euwe,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You didn't answer my question.  What would YOU
> > have
> > > > done
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > criminals were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throwing a barrage of rocks at YOU?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <
> > politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 8:46:44 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely - kids have gotten a free ride long
> > enough
> > > > -
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > start lowering the age of outrage - kill them in
> > the
> > > > > > womb!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 12:27 am, Mustang <
> > mustangsp...@yahoo.com
>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not?  If a "most wanted juvenile smuggler"
> > with
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > record
> > > > > > > > > > starting at age
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is throwing rocks from 30-40 feet away it could
> > do
> > > > a
> > > > > > hell
> > > > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > > > lot of damage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They weren't wiffle rocks!   The kid, and
> > others,
> > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > determined to hurt the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Border Patrol Agents.  He had no respect for
> > laws
> > > > or
> > > > > > life.
> > > > > > > > > >  Now, the choir boy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is dead.  He will smuggle no more.  He should
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > > > > > studying.  His
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parents are now paying the price for neglect
> > and
> > > > > > disrespect
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > America.  They
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should have given him a "time out" after his
> > first
> > > > > > arrest.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I lost two sons to cancer.  I know the
> > heartache.
> > > >  The
> > > > > > kid
> > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > wrong and paid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the highest of consequences for his own
> > actions.
> > > >  What
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > expect the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >agents
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to do?  What would you do if criminals threw a
> > > > barrage
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > rocks
> > > > > > > > > > at you?  Say
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Please don't do that."?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <
> > > > politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 4:28:49 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not while they are on Mexican soil.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 25, 9:22 am, dick thompson <
> > > > > > rhomp2...@earthlink.net
>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Attached Message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >]From:claguerra...@aol.comTo
> > > > > > :Rhomp2...@earthlink.netDate
> > > > > > > > :Fri,
> > > > > > > > > > 25 Jun 2010
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >18:41:02 -0400 (EDT)Local:Fri, Jun 25 2010
> > 5:41
> > > > > > > > > > pmSubject:well, looky here!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Teen Shot by Border Patrol Had  Smuggling
> > > > Arrests
> > > > > >  By
> > > > > > > > THE
> > > > > > > > > > ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Filed at 6:20 p.m. ET
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- Federal records show
> > that
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > 15-year-old Mexican  boy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >shot and killed by U.S. Border  Patrol agents
> > was
> > > > > > among El
> > > > > > > > > > Paso's most wanted
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >juvenile smugglers.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to federal arrest records reviewed
> > by
> > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > Associated Press,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Sergio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Adrian Hernandez Huereka had been arrested at
> > > > least
> > > > > > four
> > > > > > > > times
> > > > > > > > > >  since 2008
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >twice in the same week in February 2009.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Border Patrol agent shot and killed the
> > teen on
> > > > > > June 7
> > > > > > > > > > while trying to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arrest illegal immigrants crossing the muddy
> > bed
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Rio
> > > > > > > > > > Grande.  Some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >witnesses said a group of people on the
> > Mexican
>
> ...
>
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