Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Pics and toons 1/10/12 (1)

 



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Re: Fighting for Freedom?

Any one that has ever gone to boot camp or OCS KNOWS that the uniform
may not be worn at political rallies, etc. if you are to speak. Even
standing on the Dais in silent support while in uniform is considered
wrong.

It is covered in the same class when they teach you to NOT salute the
Admiral (General) who is well known to you if he is in civilian
clothes... The uniform gets the salute..not the man. The inverse is
also true. The ONLY exception to the rule on Uniforms is The
Congressional Medal of Honor.... It can be worn with ANY clothing and
is always to be saluted. The holder may wear it and do as he pleases
where and when he pleases. (regarding Uniform and salute rules)

On Jan 9, 12:08 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ron Paul
> supporters base their beliefs and downright arrogance on
> misinformation.
> ---
> cite example
>
> Here is why the soldier is facing trouble:
> ---
> 10 to 1 he doesn't get in trouble
> not even his CO is going to care much about this, he might have to
> fill a few sandbags, get yelled at for 20 minutes, but that will be
> about it. he wont lose rank or get the big chicken dinner, so its
> really not that big of a deal
>
> Here is one of the comments on CNN about this:
> "Throw the book at him. There's a reason members of the military are
> not allowed to do this; we live in a democracy."
> ---
> yeah, the Communist News Network thinks the USA is a democracy
>
> On Jan 6, 3:42 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Here is a great example of what I am talking about;  where Ron Paul
> > supporters base their beliefs and downright arrogance on misinformation.
>
> > Here is why the soldier is facing trouble:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lNbiIdraso
> > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM, plainolamerican
> > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > >  there is a provision in military code that prohibits ALL
> > > servicemen from appearing in ANY  political rallies or showing support
> > > for
> > > any candidate, in uniform
> > > ---
> > > not the issue
> > > he was on air until he mentioned supporting RP
> > > then 'the snake' switched to a near empty room of Romney supporters
>
> > > try again ...
>
> > > It's amazing to me how the Ron Paul supporters
> > > get their panties in a wad over the least little thing.  They are so
> > > blinded by misinformation, and stuck on ridiculous assertions that
> > > they
> > > have gleaned from this misinformation, that it makes them downright
> > > dangerous.  Much like Moonbats.
> > > ---
> > > it's amazing how zionist warmongers are allowed to spew fabricated
> > > information all over Americans and the UN with impunity
>
> > > On Jan 6, 12:24 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Uhm.....No,  there is a provision in military code that prohibits ALL
> > > > servicemen from appearing in ANY  political rallies or showing support
> > > for
> > > > any candidate, in uniform.  It's amazing to me how the Ron Paul
> > > supporters
> > > > get their panties in a wad over the least little thing.  They are so
> > > > blinded by misinformation, and stuck on ridiculous assertions that they
> > > > have gleaned from this misinformation, that it makes them downright
> > > > dangerous.  Much like Moonbats.
>
> > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:44 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > jew Blitzer is a snake in the grass
>
> > > > > know the enemy
>
> > > > > On Jan 6, 8:50 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Fighting for Freedom?Posted byButler Shafferon January 5, 2012 01:06
> > > PM
> > > > > > So, the Army would like to punish Corporal Thorsen for daring to
> > > speak
> > > > > out in favor of Ron Paul? So much for the horse-hockey about soldiers
> > > > > "fighting for freedom," eh? I suspect the real offense in this young
> > > man's
> > > > > remarks came when he started to say that "Israel could defend itself"
> > > . . .
> > > > > oops, "We're having technical difficulties" as he was abruptly cut off.
> > > > > Perhaps a bumper-sticker ought to be designed in his honor: "Support
> > > the
> > > > > troop."
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rvzeowlqmBI
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RE: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

You can assure the security of a common man if there is law and order. And it is the vision of PTI . Other countries are not using any rocket science to tackle this issue . They have law and order so people don't dare to do anything wrong .

Muhammad Haris Haneef



Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:08:23 -0800
From: dontforgetme2600@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)
To: SHEIKELAHI@aol.com; joinpakistan@googlegroups.com

Dear Zakir Sahab,

Many thanks for sharing the Information, May God save Pakistan from Nawaz, Zardari  and all employee who are involved in this corruption. Because this is not a game of 2, 3 Person it is the game of all Government Employee are working in relevant Department. MBA's and well educated Person are jobless and Person who have fake degrees are working in Government Department and getting well Payed.  

Regards
Salman


From: "SHEIKELAHI@aol.com" <SHEIKELAHI@aol.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com; dontforgetme2600@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2012 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

The whole security issue is related to our role in war on terror .
Dear Salman sahib ,
PTI movement is against status quo. Soon  Nawaz /Zardari  will join hands against  Imran Khan .
Theses people can not bring change because they are part of cartels /interest group/ fuels /cartels /mafia  .They can not act against themselves .
They created whole energy crisis to get 1.9 billion dollars from power rental . Now whole gas crisis to import LNG and make big bucks
Experts from my latest article / See what are issue and how we plan to bring change .
 
Tax Reforms
As mentioned earlier, Pakistan's GDP to tax ratio is one of lowest in the world. Pakistan's main problem is the low government revenues that exist because of tax evasion, loopholes and exemptions. Only 3 million out of 175 million citizens have a national tax number NTN and the actual number of people who pay any tax at all is even lower. As per utility companies, there are 2.75 million commercial connections and only 0.7 million businesses file taxes. Although agriculture contributes 22 percent of Pakistan's GDP, but only it has only 1 percent role in tax revenue. According to the FBR chief, more than Rs800 billion is lost annually due to tax evasion. Around Rs600 billion is lost in direct taxation evasion, mostly in business income tax (WHD) and around Rs200 billion is lost due to evasion of sale tax, FED and import duties. Corruption is a major factor in tax collection loss. For example, over Rs 50 billion was lost in tax revenue (2007-2011) due to disappearance of 23,952 containers from the Karachi port. In addition to the declared GDP, Pakistan has a huge underground economy which is not reported. Estimates on the underground economy are equal to approximately 50 % of GDP, which is close to Rs3 trillion.
 The complexity and fallibility of the tax law currently is the single most important factor responsible for most of the revenue losses. The fact that Pakistan is the world's 26th richest country in the world in purchasing power parity should allow for it to be able to triple its revenue if we can convince the people to pay their taxes and put a proper structure in place.
The current tax system is complex, burdensome, and severely limits economic opportunity. PTI also supports a just, uniformed, consistent and fair tax system. Our tax philosophy is to encourage and motivate citizens to create wealth and share a part of their hard earned income by paying tax at a rate which is acceptable to the majority.  PTI wants to increase the tax-base, meaning that it believes in the increase of tax payers but believes in lowering current tax rates, thereby lowering the burden of those who are paying taxes for so many years. Research indicates that by putting in place a more extensive, progressive and equitable tax structure, revenues can double if not triple. PTI supports capital gain tax, agriculture tax on big land owners (Farm income tax), a decrease in the indirect tax on poor, an end of exemption in taxes for profitable industries like the textile, sugar and cement industries. There should be an end to the tax loop holes for the rich, a tax on luxury goods and mandatory tax filing for all corporations. The Party wants to introduce programs with incentives and privileges and opportunities for only tax payers. FBR needs to be completely revamped so that it is totally independent. We need to link certain privileges that we enjoy as citizens of Pakistan to registration with the tax department.
 
Menace of Corruption
 
PTI always had uncompromising stand against the corruption. It believes that most of the suffering of the common man is due to corruption in the government. According to a few independent reports, Pakistan looses close to Rs 300 billion a year because of corruption. Tough stand against corruption has earned PTI a lot of respect among masses. PTI strongly believe that the rule of law should be enforced and no one should be considered above law. Ordnances such as NRO that gave protection to corruption should be repealed and everyone should be held accountable. There is corruption in virtually every department. As per Transparency International, Pakistan recently lost more than $2 billion in 14 contracts related to Rental power project. Corruption is a major factor for the current energy crisis as current regime does not want to find solution to the problem but want to identify ways to make more money from the desperation of the people. The steel mill lost Rs 22 billion because of corruption and the Railways lost Rs 40 billion in procurement of 150 locomotives. The OGDC lost $3 billion because of drillings rigs contracts.  Favouritism, nepotism, misappropriation of public fund, and misuse of power often go an unchecked as agencies and departments responsible for checking corruption are under influence of the same people they are suppose to check. PTI has always demanded independent bodies and judiciary to monitor corruption. 
 
PTI is very fortunate to have a leader like Imran khan who can give hope and reassurance to the people of Pakistan in these uncertain times. PTI has team to bring Pakistan back to the path of economic prosperity. We are very sure of what we are doing, and by putting a plan which includes public education, increase risk and deterrent effect, the removal of incentive and opportunity, monitoring cell, legal prosecution, enforcement of the code of conduct, asset declaration, conflict of interest, protection for whistle blower  and policy of zero tolerance we will achieve our goal. God has blessed Pakistan with so much. All it lacks is the leadership to steer it towards glory. Founder of the nation said, "Nature has given you everything, you've got unlimited resources. The foundations of your State has been laid and it is now up to you to build it and build it as quickly as you can. So Go Ahead, I Wish You God-Speed". PTI has political will and dignity and has a leader who has lead by example. PTI can motivate his nation to come out of this quagmire.
 
SHEIKH ZAKIR ELAHI
ADVISOR TO CHAIRMAN PTI
PLANNING AND POLITICAL AFF
 
In a message dated 1/10/2012 2:31:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hassan_mahmood8@yahoo.com writes:
Dear Salman
I am not telling you about social workers I am telling about the politicians who did the social work. Anyways we have no choice left but Imran khan so we have to trust and take risk and I am confident Imran khan will deliver Inshallah. And about terrorism no leader talk more than Ik look at his past 7 years talk shows. We should have positive approach and Inshallah you will see Pakistan progressing under Ik leadership.

Hassan Mahmood.


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From: "forget menot" <dontforgetme2600@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 1:38 pm
Subject: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)
To: "hassan_mahmood8@yahoo.com" <hassan_mahmood8@yahoo.com>, "joinpakistan@googlegroups.com" <joinpakistan@googlegroups.com>

Dear Hassan,

Did I say Zardari is honest to Pakistan ? No , I didnt say it. I know the situation of Pakistan where it is standing right now. What is the guaranty if Imran Khan is fail to do what he said ? if PTI did not perform well, will they resign and say sorry to Pakistani Nation that we are fail ? Allah na karay k aisa ho .. May God give him success. Well, if you talk about charity and other things Edhi is performing very well every one is aware of Abdul Satar Edhi's efforts but it didnt mean that he want to be prime minister etc . the Problem that i have with him why he said bad about any one on asking why he didnt reply of it ? 2nd thing is I never ever seen him talk about terrorism or banned insitiutes How to control the Terrorism . he is asking to remove corruption but how about the security of a common people ? you tel me what is more important for you ? Life or corruption ? obveiuosly Life ..

Regards
Salman Ahmed 


From: "hassan_mahmood8@yahoo.com" <hassan_mahmood8@yahoo.com>
To: forget menot <dontforgetme2600@yahoo.com>; "joinpakistan@googlegroups.com" <joinpakistan@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2012 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

Dear Friend
Imran khan is true muslim and Pakistani. His all struggle is for the people of Pakistan he gave shukat khanem and nimal university for poor people of Pakistan ,you tell me any one in past or sitting govt has done such things answer is no. Second thing the thiefs sitting in govt who even steal zakat and pension of poor people are willing to help Pakistani people? If some one give them a plan ,are they sincere to implement ? Koreans took the financial program of Pakistan and where are they now? Why Pakistani politician used same plan for their own country? Benazier income program money is stolen, steel mill is bankrupt, railways is history, and PIA is bankrupt , what you think these institutions were not good working in the past ? Steel mill was biggest in Asia in past , PIA was best airline in past. My dear brother Imran khan,s best service to the nation will be to provide an honest leadership to Pakistan . Do you think present govt is honest enough to use any program for their people? If the answer is no then trust me Imran khan is the only hope of Pakistan. Please don't raise these silly questions and if you are sincere yourself then help Imran khan achieve his goals not to doubt his sincerety for Pakistan. When true leaders comes even if they have no plans for nation the country progresses just because of their honesty and earth expel its wealth out on surface if justice is done. So please move towards positive change and the change is just bring one honest leader to lead the nation. Thank you
Regards

Hassan Mahmood.


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From: "forget menot" <dontforgetme2600@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 3:17 am
Subject: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)
To: "joinpakistan@googlegroups.com" <joinpakistan@googlegroups.com>

Dear Haris,

It is not a play ground that every one should be given a chance to play. I know Zardari or Nawaz Shareef are not eligible for this chair. my question is that if Imran Khan have solution that corruption will be remove in just 90 days . if he is a correct Muslim and Pakistani then why he did not give the formula to the Government of Pakistan ? for what he is waiting for ? People are killing due to terrorism ? Mothers/ Fathers are killing there own children from there own hands due to Inflation ? being a muslim my believe is that if any muslim is in trouble and you know that he is in trouble and you have enough ways to help him out then why Imran Khan being a true Muslim and Pakistani why he is not helping to them ? if Imran knows the solution and he is not disusing with the Government and not trying to helping out the poor people so I must say Imran Khan will have to answer the blood of killing of innocent people . I am not against Imran Khan, or i dont have any personal argument with him. I just want people to realize that if Imran khan become chair person nothing good is going to happened. 

Regards
Salman Ahmed


From: Arshad Naeem Chaudhry <arshadnaeemch@gmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2012 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)


Dear Brother open in inpage and comment.
Arshad Naeem Chaudhry
president pti kuwait chapter
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Muhammad Haris Haneef <haris_2003@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear brother ,

He did'nt asnwer because he said i want to unite karachi .. he don't wont to divide , if he said anything about them so you know what would happen , they (MQM ) torch the cars and kill 4 to 5 ppl . its nothing new . it always happen when someone say anything about them . so he took a nice step . and I am not predicting future with guarantee. May be he will not do anything . its a doubt let say . But about others , I am sure, coz We already tested them and they failed to deliver. So its better if i go with the person about which we have some doubts instead of choosing those looters again about which we already know.  no one in this world can be 100% , but still he is way better than nawaz and zardari

Muhammad Haris Haneef



Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 01:12:36 -0800

From: dontforgetme2600@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
CC: mshoaibtanoli@googlegroups.com; reality_b2a@yahoogroups.com; paknationalists@googlegroups.com; pakistaniwriters@yahoogroups.com


Dear Haris Bhai,

I have told you that there are many ways to hide your assets. 2nd thing i have shared video, why Imran khan did not answer the question of the Student ? how can you Predict that his future is bright ? he will do what ever he is promising for ? Before the election every Candidate make Promises with Nation. we are already observing what they did after the election ?

Regards
Salman Ahmed


From: Muhammad Haris Haneef <haris_2003@hotmail.com>
To: join Pakistan <joinpakistan@googlegroups.com>
Cc: mshoaibtanoli@googlegroups.com; reality_b2a@yahoogroups.com; paknationalists@googlegroups.com; pakistaniwriters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 2 January 2012 6:25 PM
Subject: RE: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

He is asking for declaration of assets to make sure that no one can make black money even he/she get the chance to do it . He is the person who think of the future , he wants to move on . He wants to unite the nation which other parties are unable to do .  When it comes to imran , peoples criticism begins with , "he will", "i think" and so on . SO is it a justifiable reason to not cast the vote for him .  So please don't predict the future based on your thoughts.

Muhammad Haris Haneef



Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 01:27:57 -0800
From: dontforgetme2600@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
CC: mshoaibtanoli@googlegroups.com; Reality_B2A@yahoogroups.com; PakNationalists@googlegroups.com; PakistaniWriters@yahoogroups.com

Dear All Respected members, 

What you say about this video ? Please watch it? why Imran khan didn't answer of it ? 
My question is with Imran Khan, by showing or declaring of Assets how can you analyze that members is not corrupted ? I think its a wrong strategy to judge any one by his Assets. there are lot of ways to hide you Assets

2nd thing is that Imran Khan is saying that his past is clean. His Past should be clean because he don't get a chance to seat on any seat? When he will get a seat then we will see how honest he is ? 



Regards
Salman Ahmed
UAE - ACCA


From: Asan Deen <khshaikh1999@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, 1 January 2012 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

Salam;
Dear Sheikh Elahi Sb.,
Just see today's Ummat Article of your Gathering in Karachi and the protest of your faithful workers/local leaders and the behaviour of your Senior Leadership.
Point to consider.
Regards
KhShaikh

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:06 AM, <SHEIKELAHI@aol.com> wrote:
 
There are two kind of people , One who corrupts the system and other who is corrupted by system .
 
1-We will not allow any one  ,who is responsible for corruption of the system
 
2- Pakistan had 2  major parties - choices were limited - Both parties have disappointed their supporter-   voters from those two parties are  joining  PTI . Similarly  clean and honest politicians who did not have option before now have option and they have to join PTI. God knows niyat of any person
 
3- Chairman has clearly said who ever join our party has to declare his asset and be ready for scrutiny .
So people who have joined us they have offered and open  themselves for hitesaab .They want to join the fight to save Pakistan and it is fight to save Pakistan -only clean and honest politicians will prevail .  
 
4- All decision will be on merit / we  will not  ignore our ideological worker - They are foundation of PTI .We will give tickets to our workers ,youth - wait and see - We promise only honest and up right will be given ticket.We need 900 candidates.
 
5- This is contest between  New Pakistan under leadership of Imran Khan vs Status quo .
Before election all theses interest groups theses cartels ,these mafia will join hand against change .
There will be  alliance of PPP and PML N as you saw during last election .They are one and same.
Voter has to choose between New Pakistan vs status Quo
 
6- This first time in Pakistan politics that sitting MNA are resigning from their seat to join a party  that is not part of government and have presence in parliament . This proves their commitment to cause and love for their people .
 
We welcome every one to join the fight for Pakistan,for people of Pakistan , for survival of Pakistan.
 
Sheikh Zakir Elahi
Advisor to Chairman PTI Imran Khan
Political and Planning affairs
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
Co founder Pakistan Strategy forum
201 450 2394   
 
In a message dated 12/30/2011 11:59:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hiaamir@hotmail.com writes:

Agreed from Farooq Sahib, you are 100% right
just wait and watch


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:26:50 -0800
From: pnninews@ymail.com
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com

Dear Ejaz Ch. and Mansoor, 

There is no change .... PTI IS JUST A FRONT SHOW. 
in PTI's last CEC meeting all founder members opposes to get these black sheep in the party..... but what is going on..... we will see old actor in new dresses .... nothing more than this.  


IMRAN KHAN is not a name of change.... its a new model for the publicity of a upcoming stage play.


Regards, 

Roy Farooq Ahmad 
Pakistan News Network International 


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To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

Assalamu alaikum
Personally I don't know Mansoor Rahim but fully endorse his
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What Happened to You, Rush?


What Happened to You, Rush?
Posted on January 9, 2012 by LHR, Jr.

Writes John Tonnemacher:

I started listening to you in 1988. You were on the same station as Sean Hannity (he was the local guy), in Huntsville, Al. I was a Reagan conservative, who had graduated from college in 1982. I was so thrilled to find you, because you espoused the concepts of limited government and the Constitution. You spoke to me as no one else could. We used to order lunch in at our office and watch your television show. We were dyed-in-the-wool conservatives and you were our "leader". I have been a life-long "conservative", I supported both Gulf Wars because this had to be, and it was in our "best interest." I happily voted for George W Bush two times.

A funny thing happened in GW's 2nd term. While I never considered him a rock-ribbed conservative, he was the man to "protect us". That didn't mean I agreed with him on everything, I didn't. He was too much of "big government guy" and his spending, honestly, unnerved me. Your unwavering support for him, even in the areas of "big government" caused me pause. What happened to the Rush I knew that talked about limited government and the Constitution? I quit listening to you because I felt like I wasn't getting the straight scoop anymore, and you were becoming the "media type" you always railed against. I held my nose and voted for John McCain, another "big government guy.". I watched as Republicans supported TARP, and bailed out GM and Chrysler -- which I opposed, even though my livelihood is tied to the automotive industry. I found out we went into Iraq under false pretenses, based on the lying information of a defector and a false notion of "nation-building". I thank God both of my nephews made it back from Iraq safe, and I grieve for the parents of those killed, due to people like me buying the propaganda that we needed to go in there because of an imminent threat. I have voted a straight Republican ticket my entire life. I was thrilled the House turned over in 2010 by the sea change inspired by Obama, and understood, finally, we were going to see action. Most all of them, voted in favor of raising the debt ceiling, and could only find cuts amounting to roughly $3.8B out of a $3T budget. All of these things helped me to understand that the game is rigged. All of the great inspiring talk you and others throw out there mean nothing. It is the same old, same old.

You continually trash Dr. Paul, and he is the one person that aspires to represent the things you used to espouse, back those many years ago -- "limited government and the Constitution". You used to talk about the "marketplace of ideas", of which Dr. Paul is the one candidate who plays in that arena. The cast of characters in the Republican field, outside of Dr. Paul, is the same old washed up bullcarp (pardon my French). I am 53 years old, love what this country was founded on, and fears for my children and granddaughter. You paint us all as some kind of "whack jobs". Maybe so, but am I a "whack job" because I believe in those things that made America the unique experiment in human history?

Brush me off as someone who doesn't get it, but I am finally living and breathing my conscience and listening to the voice of liberty that has been pinging me for a very long time. I support Dr. Paul, and long that, even if he isn't given the nomination, his ideas will cause this country to right itself and turn back to it's roots. The cause of liberty is God-given and I am all in. Mock us if you will, but there are many more like me out here, and Romney isn't going to make it without us. My days of voting for the lesser of two evils is over.

Gingrich Proves He Hates Free Markets


Gingrich Proves He Hates Free Markets
Posted by Bill Anderson on January 8, 2012 08:56 PM

Other than Ron Paul, who understands free markets and what liberty actually means, the Republican candidates have been vying with each other to see who can have the biggest police state or who can kill the most people. Now we see Newt Gingrich going after Mitt Romney because his firm, Bain Capital, actually practiced capitalism, which is anathema in Washington. (That only works when the government subsidizes "green energy" companies and other outfits that only can survive when taxpayers are forced to give them money they have not earned.)

Corporate raiders go after firms that are not in good shape, and they make money by selling off the assets of those firms. When a company is worth more having its assets sold in the open market than being a "whole" firm, that is not the fault of the corporate raider. Yes, people employed by those firms often lose their jobs, but they were going to lose their jobs anyway because the firm was in real trouble. (And, unlike General Motors, they did not have the political clout to be purchased effectively by the government. When GM went bankrupt, the firm as a whole had a negative value, and while it had some valuable assets, much of GM would have been sold for scrap metal had the free market process been permitted to work.)

While there is much to dislike about Mitt Romney (and, no, if he is the Republican nominee, I won't vote for him), the whole notion that Bain Capital actually destroyed wealth via its actions is laughable. Most Americans don't understand how this process works and from the attacks on Romney involving Bain, it is obvious that the Republican candidates ­ sans Ron Paul ­ also are as anti-capitalist as the Democrats.