Sunday, January 1, 2012

Re: Iowa’s Choice: Dr. Paul or U.S. bankruptcy , more wars, and many more dead soldiers and Marines

I'm curious.....What and how are we intervening in "The Muslim World"?  By supporting Israel?   Is "Mike"  suggesting that we not support Israel?
 
Paul also takes it a step further, by blaming the 9/11 attacks on America directly.  This is the analogy to Jeremiah Wright, and Charles Lane is correct.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:


Iowa's Choice: Dr. Paul or U.S. bankruptcy, more wars, and many more dead soldiers and Marines
By mike | Published: December 31, 2011

Two recent experiences underlined for me what Iowans will vote for next week in the field of foreign policy if they do not vote for Dr. Ron Paul. On Christmas day, I heard Chris Wallace's program on FOX. He had a guest ­ Mr. Charles Lane ­ who made the false and scurrilous claim that Dr. Paul's foreign policy was the same as that of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's America-hating policy, a doctrine that appealed to Barack Obama for more than twenty years and which the president and his party are now implementing. Following this imbecilic assertion of Mr. Lane to its logical conclusion, U.S. soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines also must be ardent devotees of Rev Wright's anti-Americanism as they donate many times more money to Dr. Paul than to all the other Republican candidates combined.

Then on 26 December, I visited Mount Vernon's new and extraordinary multi-media museum documenting the life of George Washington. At the end of the exhibition there is video of U.S. Senators reading Washington's Farewell Address into the record, something they appear to do every year. When I arrived in front of the video Senator John McCain was reading Washington's clear warnings about the dangers of foreign intervention and the fatal impact of mindlessly favoring one country over another. To hear this from McCain's interventionist, war-mongering, and Israel-is-always-right mouth was sound evidence of his hypocrisy and deceitfulness, as well as his and his senatorial colleagues' ignorance of Washington's ideas and U.S. history generally.

Based on these two experiences, let us look at what Iowans not voting for Ron Paul will help to inflict on an America already terribly wounded by the Republican and Democratic interventionism in the Muslim world.

1.) A foreign policy that will complete U.S. bankruptcy. While there is a lot of talk about cutting domestic spending to bring the federal debt under control, it is obvious that neither party is willing to make substantial cuts in that area. Indeed, both are counting on drastic cuts in defense spending to help reduce the federal debt. While they may agree on and even make defense-spending cuts, any such reductions will be short-lived and then restored to much more than current levels. Obama and any Republican save Dr. Paul will continue to intervene in the Muslim world and so will motivate more Muslims to fight us. A third-grader could tell you that you cannot cut defense spending when Washington's unrelenting interventionism is cultivating new enemies who are intent on attacking U.S. citizens and interests. If you are being attacked, our third grader would patiently explain, you have to spend whatever it takes to defend yourself. And there is no doubt that we and our vital interests are going to keep being attacked by Islamists as long as we continue to intervene in their world.

2.) Obama's return or the election of any Republican but Dr. Paul means the continuation of the State Department's not-so-secret computer/Facebook/Twitter proselytizing campaign to incite people to overthrow their governments in places like Iran, Russia, Tunisia, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, and elsewhere. [NB: Three offices of Mrs. Clinton's elitist democracy/feminism crusade in Cairo were raided and shut by Egyptian authorities on 28 December 2011 for intervening in Egypt's domestic affairs.] This mindless promotion of anarchy alienates the governments targeted and will motivate them to harm the United States in some manner. Of no concern to Obama, Mrs. Clinton, and Senators McCain and Graham, of course, are the thousands of young and naive people who will die at the hands of the regimes they are instigated to overthrow by the democracy-pushing federal bureaucrats and their elitist political masters, all of whom are safe and secure here in North America. Dr. Paul's non-interventionist policy will allow foreigners to work out their political destiny in their own way and at their own pace; prevent unnecessary additions to America's growing list of enemies; and save countless young lives.

3.) All the Republican contenders and the Obama administration are whole-hearted believers that the Arab Spring will bring the installation of secular democracy across that region. This has been and still is a nonsense that only adolescent idealists ­ or deliberate liars ­ could believe, and one that has been proven fatuous by the fact that Islamists have won every election held since the start of the Arab Spring. Neither the Obamaites nor the Republicans will admit they are wrong on this issue and they will pump billions of dollars in foreign aid into the Arab-Spring countries in a feckless, Muslim-alienating effort to build secular democracies and install the crazed feminism of Mrs. Clinton. Such aid not only will be wasted, but it surely will cause more Muslims take up arms against America. Indeed, the continuation of this bipartisan cultural/feminist war on Islam is likely to start the clash of civilizations Professor Huntington predicted.

4.) Electing anyone but Ron Paul will further increase the already strong chances of widespread Islamist-conducted violence inside the United States. Any other Republican candidate or a reelected Obama will keep lying to Americans by claiming that we are being attacked because of our liberties, gender-equality laws, and elections rather than because of Washington's constant intervention in the Islamic world. This now two-decade-old lie ­ which is abetted by most of the media ­ has hidden from Americans the fact that all of the would-be Islamist attackers who have been captured in this country were motivated by the invasion of Iraq, U.S. support for Israel, or some other U.S. government action in the Muslim world. As Dr. Paul has explained, our Islamist enemies are motivated by Washington's bipartisan foreign policy, and as long as that foreign policy does not change the number of young, U.S.-citizen Muslim males willing to attack their fellow citizens will keep increasing. For those who doubt this reality, a quick look at the recently adopted Defense Appropriations Act will clear their eyes. That Act's authorization for the U.S. military to detain U.S. citizens in the United States is clear evidence that the leaders of both parties know that their foreign policy is going to bring war to America's streets and towns and that the U.S. military will be called on to fight Islamists militants here at home.

5.) Obama and any Republican candidate, except for Dr. Paul, will slavishly obey the U.S.-citizen-dominated, pro-Israel lobby that bribes and suborns them by getting into a war with Iran. Indeed, Washington, Tel Aviv, and London are already conducting a lethal, covert-action war inside Iran which is killing Iranian nuclear scientists and destroying nuclear-related facilities, as well as trying to goad Tehran into reacting with violence and thereby give the West a casus belli. Such a war would be a financial and military disaster for the United States, and would be watched with glee by Russian and Chinese leaders who ­ while their countries would lose some trade with Iran during a war ­ would applaud another U.S. self-inflicted would that further erodes the already failing economy that is the base of American power. Moreover, if U.S. political leaders would not permit the U.S. military to defeat Afghan and Iraqi mujahedin armed with Korean War-vintage weapons, they surely will not allow the military to defeat a much better armed nation-state like Iran. Thus we would have yet another politically imposed defeat for the U.S. military. More painful for Americans will be the Iran-sponsored attacks that will occur in the United States if Washington and/or Israel launch a first strike on Iran. The only serious threat Iran poses to the United States is the result of more than 35 years of near-criminal bipartisan negligence by the U.S. executive and legislative branches in the fields of border control and domestic security. Both Iran's military and intelligence services and their Lebanese Hizballah surrogate have created clandestine entry points along our southern border, as well as a large clandestine infrastructure in the continental United States, one which works with similar networks in Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean. Iran is too smart and fearful of U.S. military power to use this apparatus to strike first in North America, but the network clearly is meant to allow Tehran to respond violently here if Iran is attacked by America and/or Israel.

6.) While all of the Republican candidates and Obama talk about their plans to make America energy self-sufficient to the greatest extent possible, there is no reason to believe any of them. In the past 40 years, the two parties have made virtually no progress toward this goal, unless you count moving up Daylight Savings Time by three weeks as a major gain. Both parties have taken the easy and profitable route: dependence on oil-rich Arab tyrants, a policy that mandates that the U.S. military spends billions each year to defend the Arab Peninsula's fundamentally anti-U.S. police states. Only Dr. Paul could be counted on to allow the unfettered development of all domestic energy resources to promote energy self-sufficiency and allow the gradual abandonment of our mujahedin- motivating exploitation of Muslim oil. But even Dr. Paul cannot prevent the United States from fighting an oil war that the Republicans and Democrats have fixed on the national agenda, one that America will wage in the Niger Delta region ­ from which we will soon get 20-25 percent of our crude ­ because of the Islamist insurgency that is gathering steam in Nigeria and threatening the oil-rich Delta region's stability.

Notwithstanding the damnable lies about Dr. Paul's foreign policy constantly proclaimed by his fellow Republican candidates, leading pro-Israel/pro-intervention U.S.-citizens and their journalist friends, and most of the media, only the gentleman from Texas speaks for the Founder's non-interventionist vision of America's role in world affairs and for plain common sense. In the Founders' non-interventionist design for U.S. foreign policy that is championed by Dr. Paul, Iowans will find a proven road to the maintenance of America's sovereignty, independence, peace, and prosperity. In the realm of common sense, Dr. Paul beats his fellow candidates, the Obamaites, and the media hands down. Dr. Paul challenges the interventionists in both parties on their plans for spreading secular democracy ­ and causing wars thereby ­ on historical grounds that are irrefutable because they are just good commonsense. We, the British, the Australians, and the Canadians have been building our republics/democracies since Magna Charta in 1215 ­ that is for nearly 800 years ­ and we are not yet quite perfect. If Iowans and all Americans truly think about what Dr. Paul is saying ­ and not what the interventionists say he is saying ­ they would respond favorably to the Texan's logical conclusion that what we have not fully accomplished in eight centuries cannot possibly be attained in Egypt, Afghanistan, or elsewhere in the Muslim world in 6 weeks, 6 months, or six years, not least because none of those places separate church from state. Dr. Paul's precise use of history and commonsense exposes the exorbitantly costly effort to build democracies in the Islamic world for what it is; namely, Washington throwing money down the drain for a cause that is impossibly lost from the start and one that will involve us in wars where we have no interests.

In the words of Dr. Paul's Republican opponents, the Obamaites, and most of the media, on the other hand, Iowans ought to easily be able to hear the elitist, racist, and war-causing Wilsonian doctrine of intervening abroad to impose democracy and secular social beliefs on foreigners at the point of bayonets. Indeed, the national-security policy advocated by Dr. Paul's opponents and critics boils down to the clear and absurd argument that: America needs more and more wars ­ and the dead/maimed military personnel attendant thereto ­ that are motivated by Washington's intervention abroad if Americans are to be safe and secure at home.

For Iowans and Americans as a whole, then, the best choice for their children, grandchildren, and country clearly lies in the Founder's foreign-policy wisdom and Dr. Paul's sturdy advocacy and promised application thereof.

http://non-intervention.com/1018/iowa%E2%80%99s-choice-dr-paul-or-u-s-bankruptcy-more-wars-and-many-more-dead-soldiers-and-marines/

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**JP** Re: DATING.....


 
in surah e Nissa, in ayat 25, Allah guides us:
 
Allah tumharay eemano ka haal khoob janta hai,
tum sab ik hi groah k log ho,
lihaza un k sarparoston ki ijazat say unkay saath nikah kar lo,
aur maroof tareqay say unkay meher ada kar do,
takay wo hisaare nikah mein mahfooz(mohsinaat) ho kar rahein,
azaad fahashi na karti pheren,
aur na chori chupay aashnaiyan karein....Al Nissa,25 ayat
From: UN Barry <unbarry@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: **JP** DATING.....
assalam o alaikum,
 
today when I went with the children of my relatives at  a famous park of Karachi on the evening of a working day , I saw there couples who seemed to be on dating because none of them had children with them in that "family park". None of the bench was vacant there where one can sit on. Its really painful to see the inreasing tend of "dates" in our society. Quran clearly says k jo aurtyein tumhein pasand ho unko hisaaar e nikaah mein lo aur chori chupay aashnaiyan na karo....
 
If u like any girl, talked to her parents and propose her straight away...make ur connections legal and the lasting one, thts what a girl and her parents desire. All the girls n guys must stay away from such kind of environment/ literature/ videos/ musics that stimulate our feeling  or emotions for the searching of illegal ways....
 
It is the duty of every "relative" to give "respect" to each girl and guy so she or she cant be forced to use illegal ways to fulfill her/his emotional needs...All the girls and guys go for the physical activities or exercises that make them sweat a lot.
 
avoid teasing to those girls who r unmarried, widow or divorced. If you cant help them then its better to hold your tounge.
 
May Allah ease the legal path for all of us...aameen
 
regards
 
U N Barry
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Iowa's Choice: Dr. Paul or U.S. bankruptcy, more wars, and many more dead soldiers and Marines
By mike | Published: December 31, 2011

Two recent experiences underlined for me what Iowans will vote for next week in the field of foreign policy if they do not vote for Dr. Ron Paul. On Christmas day, I heard Chris Wallace's program on FOX. He had a guest ­ Mr. Charles Lane ­ who made the false and scurrilous claim that Dr. Paul's foreign policy was the same as that of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's America-hating policy, a doctrine that appealed to Barack Obama for more than twenty years and which the president and his party are now implementing. Following this imbecilic assertion of Mr. Lane to its logical conclusion, U.S. soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines also must be ardent devotees of Rev Wright's anti-Americanism as they donate many times more money to Dr. Paul than to all the other Republican candidates combined.

Then on 26 December, I visited Mount Vernon's new and extraordinary multi-media museum documenting the life of George Washington. At the end of the exhibition there is video of U.S. Senators reading Washington's Farewell Address into the record, something they appear to do every year. When I arrived in front of the video Senator John McCain was reading Washington's clear warnings about the dangers of foreign intervention and the fatal impact of mindlessly favoring one country over another. To hear this from McCain's interventionist, war-mongering, and Israel-is-always-right mouth was sound evidence of his hypocrisy and deceitfulness, as well as his and his senatorial colleagues' ignorance of Washington's ideas and U.S. history generally.

Based on these two experiences, let us look at what Iowans not voting for Ron Paul will help to inflict on an America already terribly wounded by the Republican and Democratic interventionism in the Muslim world.

1.) A foreign policy that will complete U.S. bankruptcy. While there is a lot of talk about cutting domestic spending to bring the federal debt under control, it is obvious that neither party is willing to make substantial cuts in that area. Indeed, both are counting on drastic cuts in defense spending to help reduce the federal debt. While they may agree on and even make defense-spending cuts, any such reductions will be short-lived and then restored to much more than current levels. Obama and any Republican save Dr. Paul will continue to intervene in the Muslim world and so will motivate more Muslims to fight us. A third-grader could tell you that you cannot cut defense spending when Washington's unrelenting interventionism is cultivating new enemies who are intent on attacking U.S. citizens and interests. If you are being attacked, our third grader would patiently explain, you have to spend whatever it takes to defend yourself. And there is no doubt that we and our vital interests are going to keep being attacked by Islamists as long as we continue to intervene in their world.

2.) Obama's return or the election of any Republican but Dr. Paul means the continuation of the State Department's not-so-secret computer/Facebook/Twitter proselytizing campaign to incite people to overthrow their governments in places like Iran, Russia, Tunisia, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, and elsewhere. [NB: Three offices of Mrs. Clinton's elitist democracy/feminism crusade in Cairo were raided and shut by Egyptian authorities on 28 December 2011 for intervening in Egypt's domestic affairs.] This mindless promotion of anarchy alienates the governments targeted and will motivate them to harm the United States in some manner. Of no concern to Obama, Mrs. Clinton, and Senators McCain and Graham, of course, are the thousands of young and naive people who will die at the hands of the regimes they are instigated to overthrow by the democracy-pushing federal bureaucrats and their elitist political masters, all of whom are safe and secure here in North America. Dr. Paul's non-interventionist policy will allow foreigners to work out their political destiny in their own way and at their own pace; prevent unnecessary additions to America's growing list of enemies; and save countless young lives.

3.) All the Republican contenders and the Obama administration are whole-hearted believers that the Arab Spring will bring the installation of secular democracy across that region. This has been and still is a nonsense that only adolescent idealists ­ or deliberate liars ­ could believe, and one that has been proven fatuous by the fact that Islamists have won every election held since the start of the Arab Spring. Neither the Obamaites nor the Republicans will admit they are wrong on this issue and they will pump billions of dollars in foreign aid into the Arab-Spring countries in a feckless, Muslim-alienating effort to build secular democracies and install the crazed feminism of Mrs. Clinton. Such aid not only will be wasted, but it surely will cause more Muslims take up arms against America. Indeed, the continuation of this bipartisan cultural/feminist war on Islam is likely to start the clash of civilizations Professor Huntington predicted.

4.) Electing anyone but Ron Paul will further increase the already strong chances of widespread Islamist-conducted violence inside the United States. Any other Republican candidate or a reelected Obama will keep lying to Americans by claiming that we are being attacked because of our liberties, gender-equality laws, and elections rather than because of Washington's constant intervention in the Islamic world. This now two-decade-old lie ­ which is abetted by most of the media ­ has hidden from Americans the fact that all of the would-be Islamist attackers who have been captured in this country were motivated by the invasion of Iraq, U.S. support for Israel, or some other U.S. government action in the Muslim world. As Dr. Paul has explained, our Islamist enemies are motivated by Washington's bipartisan foreign policy, and as long as that foreign policy does not change the number of young, U.S.-citizen Muslim males willing to attack their fellow citizens will keep increasing. For those who doubt this reality, a quick look at the recently adopted Defense Appropriations Act will clear their eyes. That Act's authorization for the U.S. military to detain U.S. citizens in the United States is clear evidence that the leaders of both parties know that their foreign policy is going to bring war to America's streets and towns and that the U.S. military will be called on to fight Islamists militants here at home.

5.) Obama and any Republican candidate, except for Dr. Paul, will slavishly obey the U.S.-citizen-dominated, pro-Israel lobby that bribes and suborns them by getting into a war with Iran. Indeed, Washington, Tel Aviv, and London are already conducting a lethal, covert-action war inside Iran which is killing Iranian nuclear scientists and destroying nuclear-related facilities, as well as trying to goad Tehran into reacting with violence and thereby give the West a casus belli. Such a war would be a financial and military disaster for the United States, and would be watched with glee by Russian and Chinese leaders who ­ while their countries would lose some trade with Iran during a war ­ would applaud another U.S. self-inflicted would that further erodes the already failing economy that is the base of American power. Moreover, if U.S. political leaders would not permit the U.S. military to defeat Afghan and Iraqi mujahedin armed with Korean War-vintage weapons, they surely will not allow the military to defeat a much better armed nation-state like Iran. Thus we would have yet another politically imposed defeat for the U.S. military. More painful for Americans will be the Iran-sponsored attacks that will occur in the United States if Washington and/or Israel launch a first strike on Iran. The only serious threat Iran poses to the United States is the result of more than 35 years of near-criminal bipartisan negligence by the U.S. executive and legislative branches in the fields of border control and domestic security. Both Iran's military and intelligence services and their Lebanese Hizballah surrogate have created clandestine entry points along our southern border, as well as a large clandestine infrastructure in the continental United States, one which works with similar networks in Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean. Iran is too smart and fearful of U.S. military power to use this apparatus to strike first in North America, but the network clearly is meant to allow Tehran to respond violently here if Iran is attacked by America and/or Israel.

6.) While all of the Republican candidates and Obama talk about their plans to make America energy self-sufficient to the greatest extent possible, there is no reason to believe any of them. In the past 40 years, the two parties have made virtually no progress toward this goal, unless you count moving up Daylight Savings Time by three weeks as a major gain. Both parties have taken the easy and profitable route: dependence on oil-rich Arab tyrants, a policy that mandates that the U.S. military spends billions each year to defend the Arab Peninsula's fundamentally anti-U.S. police states. Only Dr. Paul could be counted on to allow the unfettered development of all domestic energy resources to promote energy self-sufficiency and allow the gradual abandonment of our mujahedin- motivating exploitation of Muslim oil. But even Dr. Paul cannot prevent the United States from fighting an oil war that the Republicans and Democrats have fixed on the national agenda, one that America will wage in the Niger Delta region ­ from which we will soon get 20-25 percent of our crude ­ because of the Islamist insurgency that is gathering steam in Nigeria and threatening the oil-rich Delta region's stability.

Notwithstanding the damnable lies about Dr. Paul's foreign policy constantly proclaimed by his fellow Republican candidates, leading pro-Israel/pro-intervention U.S.-citizens and their journalist friends, and most of the media, only the gentleman from Texas speaks for the Founder's non-interventionist vision of America's role in world affairs and for plain common sense. In the Founders' non-interventionist design for U.S. foreign policy that is championed by Dr. Paul, Iowans will find a proven road to the maintenance of America's sovereignty, independence, peace, and prosperity. In the realm of common sense, Dr. Paul beats his fellow candidates, the Obamaites, and the media hands down. Dr. Paul challenges the interventionists in both parties on their plans for spreading secular democracy ­ and causing wars thereby ­ on historical grounds that are irrefutable because they are just good commonsense. We, the British, the Australians, and the Canadians have been building our republics/democracies since Magna Charta in 1215 ­ that is for nearly 800 years ­ and we are not yet quite perfect. If Iowans and all Americans truly think about what Dr. Paul is saying ­ and not what the interventionists say he is saying ­ they would respond favorably to the Texan's logical conclusion that what we have not fully accomplished in eight centuries cannot possibly be attained in Egypt, Afghanistan, or elsewhere in the Muslim world in 6 weeks, 6 months, or six years, not least because none of those places separate church from state. Dr. Paul's precise use of history and commonsense exposes the exorbitantly costly effort to build democracies in the Islamic world for what it is; namely, Washington throwing money down the drain for a cause that is impossibly lost from the start and one that will involve us in wars where we have no interests.

In the words of Dr. Paul's Republican opponents, the Obamaites, and most of the media, on the other hand, Iowans ought to easily be able to hear the elitist, racist, and war-causing Wilsonian doctrine of intervening abroad to impose democracy and secular social beliefs on foreigners at the point of bayonets. Indeed, the national-security policy advocated by Dr. Paul's opponents and critics boils down to the clear and absurd argument that: America needs more and more wars ­ and the dead/maimed military personnel attendant thereto ­ that are motivated by Washington's intervention abroad if Americans are to be safe and secure at home.

For Iowans and Americans as a whole, then, the best choice for their children, grandchildren, and country clearly lies in the Founder's foreign-policy wisdom and Dr. Paul's sturdy advocacy and promised application thereof.

http://non-intervention.com/1018/iowa%E2%80%99s-choice-dr-paul-or-u-s-bankruptcy-more-wars-and-many-more-dead-soldiers-and-marines/

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**JP** Subhan Allah Muslims of Kazakhstan!


 

MUSLIMS OF KHAZAKISTAN

Look at this - they do not have a masjid so they (men, women and children) pray on the ground full of snow. Also they removed their shoes, they go in prostration on the snowy ground. And here we are, we have beautiful comfortable masajid - heated in winter and air-conditioned in summer and yet we have difficulty going to the masjid. 
 
Muslims attending Friday prayers under a snowfall at the Central mosque in Almaty, Kazakhstan, Friday,
 
 




 


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Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

Salam;
Dear Sheikh Elahi Sb.,
Just see today's Ummat Article of your Gathering in Karachi and the protest of your faithful workers/local leaders and the behaviour of your Senior Leadership.
Point to consider.
Regards
KhShaikh

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:06 AM, <SHEIKELAHI@aol.com> wrote:
 
There are two kind of people , One who corrupts the system and other who is corrupted by system .
 
1-We will not allow any one  ,who is responsible for corruption of the system
 
2- Pakistan had 2  major parties - choices were limited - Both parties have disappointed their supporter-   voters from those two parties are  joining  PTI . Similarly  clean and honest politicians who did not have option before now have option and they have to join PTI. God knows niyat of any person
 
3- Chairman has clearly said who ever join our party has to declare his asset and be ready for scrutiny .
So people who have joined us they have offered and open  themselves for hitesaab .They want to join the fight to save Pakistan and it is fight to save Pakistan -only clean and honest politicians will prevail .  
 
4- All decision will be on merit / we  will not  ignore our ideological worker - They are foundation of PTI .We will give tickets to our workers ,youth - wait and see - We promise only honest and up right will be given ticket.We need 900 candidates.
 
5- This is contest between  New Pakistan under leadership of Imran Khan vs Status quo .
Before election all theses interest groups theses cartels ,these mafia will join hand against change .
There will be  alliance of PPP and PML N as you saw during last election .They are one and same.
Voter has to choose between New Pakistan vs status Quo
 
6- This first time in Pakistan politics that sitting MNA are resigning from their seat to join a party  that is not part of government and have presence in parliament . This proves their commitment to cause and love for their people .
 
We welcome every one to join the fight for Pakistan,for people of Pakistan , for survival of Pakistan.
 
Sheikh Zakir Elahi
Advisor to Chairman PTI Imran Khan
Political and Planning affairs
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
Co founder Pakistan Strategy forum
201 450 2394   
 
In a message dated 12/30/2011 11:59:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hiaamir@hotmail.com writes:

Agreed from Farooq Sahib, you are 100% right
just wait and watch


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:26:50 -0800
From: pnninews@ymail.com
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com

Dear Ejaz Ch. and Mansoor, 

There is no change .... PTI IS JUST A FRONT SHOW. 
in PTI's last CEC meeting all founder members opposes to get these black sheep in the party..... but what is going on..... we will see old actor in new dresses .... nothing more than this.  


IMRAN KHAN is not a name of change.... its a new model for the publicity of a upcoming stage play.


Regards, 

Roy Farooq Ahmad 
Pakistan News Network International 


From: "ejazch101@gmail.com" <ejazch101@gmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

Assalamu alaikum
Personally I don't know Mansoor Rahim but fully endorse his point of view,let every Pakistani come to PTI and welcome them BUT we have to stick our ideology.

Ejaz Ahmad Chaudhary
Central Vice President. PTI
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From: Mansoor Rahim <mnf132@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0000
Subject: **JP** FACE THE REALITY (PTI)

SALAM TO MY DEAREST PAKISTANIS BROTHER & SISTER
 
PLEASE READ MY FULL EMAIL WITH ATTENTION AND THEN ADVISE ME.  THANK YOU.
 
As all of us knows that various party leaders are joining PTI.  I have some questions in my mind.
 
1-  Are they joining PTI as a workers or as a leaders?
2-  Are we lacking leadership in PTI except Imran?
3-  PTI is looking strong at the moment, but what about people's tsunami.  Do you think that people's tsunami will vote funeral lords of PTI or a common man? As experienced funeral lords did not perform for the betterment of people  despite to be un-corrupt.
4-  Do you think that such funeral lords will allow a common man to be a candidate in his area?  If No then where is the CHANGE?   
 
My Dear Pakistanis
 
Time to pay them back.  Time for wack up.   
 
AB buhut ho chuka, Enough is Enough. it is the time PUNCH them back. 
 
We people are torturing every day and our so called leaders are enjoying Luxirious life.  They do not have any time for our developement.  They gets our votes and cash it . 
 
WIN election, GET POWER and Protocols and ENJOY A ROYAL LIFE FOR YEARS.
 
They (Funeral Lords) are not paying attention to us.  They think we are trash.  (KABAAR)
 
Me, My family and friends would not vote any funeral lord, whether he is from PTI or Not.  We will vote a common honest local man/woman. 
 
I Love PTI and as a worker, and I Mansoor Rahim say a very BIG NOOOOOO to Funeral Lords leaders of Pakistan.
 

Sincerely yours

Mansoor Rahim Zahid


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