The fact is that there are fundamentalist Muslims who believe in
dar-al-islam that control many of the Nation-States within the Middle
East,
and these individuals want to see Western Civilization, (to include
the
United States, first and foremost) gone, done away with, destroyed,
G'Nite.
---
that's true ...
Doesn't have a thing to do with Nation Building, it has to do with
self
preservation
---
to invade, destroy, and rebuild muzzy countries in the name of
democracy in insanity.
solution: find the terrorists, kill them, and then bring the troops
home.
we do NOT have a responsibility to rebuild what is destroyed nor do we
owe their innocent civilians squat!!!
in fact, they owe US an apology and should repay US for the expense of
getting rid of their scum
massive aerial assaults work best and saves US lives
On Aug 16, 12:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone who thinks that there are just a few misplaced Muslims, and the World
> of Islam is still the religion of peace is out of touch as much as Stinky
> is.
>
> The fact is that there are fundamentalist Muslims who believe in
> dar-al-islam that control many of the Nation-States within the Middle East,
> and these individuals want to see Western Civilization, (to include the
> United States, first and foremost) gone, done away with, destroyed,
> G'Nite.
>
> Doesn't have a thing to do with Nation Building, it has to do with self
> preservation.
>
> Anyone who doesn't understand this, including Ron Paul, is flat out
> misplaced. *See* Whoopie Goldberg, Babs Streisand, Rosie O'Donnell, Sean
> Penn, Barack Obama, Ron Paul, and a host of other confused Moonbats and
> Crackpots.
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > It is the naivity of Paul's foreign policy and his lack of supporting
> > a
> > strong national defense that is troublesome
> > ----
> > pulling US troops home is not naive nor does it weaken national
> > defense
>
> > those in favor of nation building and US intervention would disagree
>
> > On Aug 16, 6:20 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think York aptly describes the issue, but to categorize "GOP
> > Operatives"
> > > as fearing Ron Paul is a bit of a stretch.
>
> > > First, I am not sure what a "Repulbican Operative" is. Is it someone who
> > > campaigns, supports, and even financially contributes to the Party?
> > Then I
> > > would qualify as an "Operative" and I don't fear Ron Paul nor do I fear
> > his
> > > supporters, including the crackpot supporters. I drink beer with them,
> > go
> > > to Church with them, play poker (when I am in Tampa) with them, and when
> > > the subject of politics comes up, try to show them the fallacy of Paul's
> > > ways. Most of the Paul supporters I know agree, with a hand full, that
> > can
> > > best be described as, "Crackpots".
>
> > > The truth is, that most all Americans agree with a smaller, fiscally
> > > responsible government that adheres to the Constitution of the United
> > > States. Paul stands for that, as does the Tea Party movement, which
> > again,
> > > much to the dismay of Democrats and far left extremists, I believe is
> > the
> > > majority of this Nation.
>
> > > It is the naivity of Paul's foreign policy and his lack of supporting a
> > > strong national defense that is troublesome and therefore disqualifying.
>
> > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:53 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > *GOP operatives fear lasting Ron Paul problem
> > > > *By: Byron York
> > > > 08/15/11 8:05 PM
>
> > > > Republicans dodged a big bullet at the Ames straw poll on Saturday. If
> > just
> > > > 77 of the 4,283 people who voted for Rep. Michele Bachmann had voted
> > instead
> > > > for Rep. Ron Paul, then Paul would have won the straw poll. In the end,
> > > > Bachmann came out ahead with 28.55 percent of the vote to Paul's 27.65
> > > > percent. No other candidate was close.
>
> > > > Some well-connected Iowa Republicans viewed it as a bullet dodged
> > because
> > > > they had long feared the possibility of a Paul victory. "It would pour
> > jet
> > > > fuel on the East Coast narrative that Iowa is just too nutty to have
> > such an
> > > > important place in the nominating process," says one of those
> > Republicans.
> > > > Before the poll, they saw a Paul-Bachmann one-two finish as the
> > worst-case
> > > > scenario. They ended up with Bachmann-Paul -- a result establishment
> > > > Republicans viewed as somewhat better than the other way around -- and
> > got a
> > > > lot of the criticism anyway.
>
> > > > The criticism came not just from Democrats or so-called Eastern elite
> > RINOs
> > > > (Republicans In Name Only). "Ron Paul is going to destroy this party if
> > they
> > > > keep him in there," said Rush Limbaugh the day after the Aug. 11 Fox
> > > > News-Washington Examiner debate in Ames. "This is nuts on parade."
>
> > > > Key Republicans in Iowa -- and around the country, too -- are genuinely
> > > > baffled by the Paul phenomenon. They understand (and share) many of
> > Paul's
> > > > views on the Constitution and limiting the size and scope of the
> > federal
> > > > government, even if they think Paul sometimes goes too far. What
> > perplexes
> > > > them is Paul's take on foreign policy, especially the threat of Iran
> > > > acquiring nuclear weapons.
>
> > > > "Why wouldn't it be natural that they might want a weapon?" Paul asked
> > at
> > > > the Fox-Examiner debate. "They'd be given more respect. ... What's so
> > > > terribly bad about this?" As for sanctions against Iran, Paul said,
> > > > "Countries that you put sanctions on, you are more likely to fight
> > them. ...
> > > > I say stay out of their internal business."
>
> > > > The crowd in Iowa State University's Stephens Auditorium included a
> > large
> > > > group of Paul supporters who broke into loud cheers every time Paul
> > spoke,
> > > > including when he gave his views on Iran. "That audience goes nuts,"
> > > > Limbaugh said the next day. "I think, 'Oh, my gosh, what am I watching
> > > > here?' "
>
> > > > It's likely most Republicans agree with Limbaugh's assessment, and
> > Paul's
> > > > ability to say such things and still remain a force in the party
> > confuses
> > > > many in the GOP. "What part of his support is attributable to a
> > different
> > > > world view, and what part is attributable to the economic libertarian
> > world
> > > > view?" asks the well-connected Republican, who freely admits he doesn't
> > know
> > > > the answer.
>
> > > > No one fears that Paul will walk away with the Republican nomination.
> > But
> > > > with a strong core of supporters, he has the means to stay in the race
> > > > nearly as long as he wants. That core support also earns him a spot in
> > > > high-profile debates. To qualify for the Fox-Examiner debate, for
> > example,
> > > > candidates had to have at least 1 percent support in five national
> > polls.
> > > > Paul qualified with plenty of room to spare; in the most recent
> > > > RealClearPolitics average of polls, he has 9 percent support, well
> > ahead of
> > > > fellow candidates Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Rick
> > Santorum,
> > > > and, until his withdrawal from the race Sunday, Tim Pawlenty.
>
> > > > Paul also has enough money to do what he wants. He reported raising
> > $4.5
> > > > million in the second quarter of this year, with about $3 million in
> > the
> > > > bank. Since he has decided to retire from the House, he can also spend
> > > > unused funds raised for congressional campaigns.
>
> > > > Speaking of retirement -- one aspect of the Paul phenomenon that has
> > > > received little attention so far is his age. Born in 1935, he will be
> > 77
> > > > years old on Inauguration Day 2013 -- the same age Ronald Reagan was
> > when he
> > > > left the White House after serving two terms. If Paul were elected and
> > > > re-elected, he'd be 85 at the end of his time in the White House. Even
> > > > though Americans are living longer, most people would probably agree
> > that's
> > > > too old for a president.
>
> > > > But the Paul campaign isn't really about the practical possibility that
> > he
> > > > might become president. It's more about Paul's supporters forcing the
> > larger
> > > > political establishment to acknowledge that he's right. "The day will
> > come
> > > > soon when candidate Paul will get his due," tweeted one supporter
> > recently.
> > > > "Blowback is gonna be a b---h."
>
> > > > Of course, most Republicans don't believe that. But Paul commands
> > enough
> > > > support to make his presence known all the way through next year.
>
> > > >http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/08/gop-operatives-fear-la.
> > ..
>
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