Monday, November 1, 2010

Re: Grim Dems await huge House losses :-)))))

Bruce is a little bully girl with a vile violent potty mouth.

On 11/1/10, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommy come out from behind Michelle's fat spreading ass
>
> If anyone here was violent you would have been beaten up for fun and dead
> long ago
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Travis is a violent bully.
>>
>> On 11/1/10, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I can think of 533 PoS's that I would like to help join the unemployment
>> > line. I have a 2X4 handy too.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> *Grim Dems await huge House losses*
>> >> By: Alex Isenstadt
>> >> October 31, 2010 04:53 PM EDT
>> >>
>> >> The last TV ads have been cut. The final polls have been conducted. The
>> >> end-of-campaign expenditures are being made.
>> >>
>> >> Now, for Democratic consultants and campaign officials who have plotted
>> >> and
>> >> strategized for months to preserve the embattled House majority,
>> >> there's
>> >> nothing left to do but sit and wait for the expected horrors of
>> >> Election
>> >> Day
>> >> to unfold.
>> >>
>> >> There is nearly uniform consensus among Democratic campaign
>> professionals
>> >> that the House is gone — the only question, it seems, is how many seats
>> >> they
>> >> will lose.
>> >>
>> >> While few will say so on the record for fear of alienating party
>> officials
>> >> or depressing turnout, every one of nearly a dozen Democratic House
>> >> consultants and political strategists surveyed expect a GOP majority to
>> be
>> >> elected Tuesday — the consensus was that Democrats would lose somewhere
>> >> between 50 and 60 seats.
>> >>
>> >> A senior party consultant who was on the low end with his predictions
>> said
>> >> the party would lose between 40 and 50 seats. On the high end, one
>> >> Democratic consultant said losses could number around 70 seats.
>> >>
>> >> All spoke to the grimness of the mood.
>> >>
>> >> "It sucks," said Dave Beattie, a Florida-based Democratic pollster who
>> is
>> >> working on a slate of competitive House races and who acknowledges that
>> >> the
>> >> lower congressional chamber is lost. "I'm resigned to the fact that it
>> >> sucks."
>> >>
>> >> While there was optimistic talk within party circles early this month
>> that
>> >> the electoral environment was improving for the party, the operatives
>> said
>> >> those conversations don't take place anymore.
>> >>
>> >> "If some Democratic consultant told you they are feeling better, they
>> must
>> >> have dropped some heavy drugs," said a senior pollster who is working
>> for
>> >> candidates in competitive races. "It's hard."
>> >>
>> >> The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee this week launched
>> >> something of a last-ditch offensive to save some of its incumbents,
>> >> purchasing airtime to defend endangered members like Iowa Rep. Dave
>> >> Loebsack, Illinois Rep. Bill Foster and New Jersey Rep. John Adler —
>> >> all
>> >> of
>> >> whom are highly vulnerable but whom party officials believe could
>> >> ultimately
>> >> prevail.
>> >>
>> >> The committee also sought to shore up incumbents who until recently
>> >> were
>> >> not thought to be in electoral peril: Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva, Iowa
>> >> Rep.
>> >> Bruce Braley and North Carolina Rep. Mike McIntyre.
>> >>
>> >> Still, among those in the Democratic consulting class, there's a gloomy
>> >> acknowledgment that many of the incumbents the DCCC has spent millions
>> of
>> >> dollars to protect won't be coming back to Congress.
>> >>
>> >> "Everybody that is tied will lose, and everyone that is ahead by a few
>> >> points will lose because of the GOP wave," said one party media
>> consultant
>> >> who is involved in a wide array of House races. "There are going to be
>> >> some
>> >> surprises."
>> >>
>> >> Some strategists have resigned themselves to an election night that
>> >> will
>> >> bring an early end to the promising careers of Democrats they
>> >> shepherded
>> >> to
>> >> victories in 2006 and 2008.
>> >>
>> >> "In a wave election, part of the problem is that you feel powerless.
>> >> Everything I feel I know how to do, that I'm trained to do, I can't do.
>> >> And
>> >> that feeling is pervasive," said the pollster. "There's a sense that
>> >> there's
>> >> nothing you can do about it. When you know your friends are on the
>> >> chopping
>> >> block, it's hard."
>> >>
>> >> "There's nothing worse than talking to an incumbent member of Congress
>> >> who's been cut off by the DCCC and who has no money," said another
>> >> Democratic consultant who has worked on crafting some of the party's TV
>> >> ads
>> >> this cycle. "It's like talking to a dead man walking."
>> >>
>> >> But Nov. 2 will also bring a welcome end to a rough final stretch that
>> >> left
>> >> many party strategists frustrated. Some talked about having to switch
>> >> campaign strategies multiple times in hapless attempts to raise
>> >> rock-bottom
>> >> poll numbers.
>> >>
>> >> "It's a 24-hour labor," said John Anzalone, an Alabama-based pollster
>> who
>> >> works closely with the DCCC. "In 2006 and 2008, everything was going
>> your
>> >> way. This is brutal."
>> >>
>> >> There is ongoing debate within Democratic circles about when, exactly,
>> the
>> >> party lost its handle on the electoral environment. Some consultants
>> >> say
>> >> they realized they lost the House in early October, when it finally
>> became
>> >> apparent that incumbents couldn't move their poll numbers.
>> >>
>> >> But others say the electoral map hardened this spring, after the House
>> >> passed a health care bill that remains deeply unpopular among voters.
>> >> Democratic campaign officials say it is no accident that there are few
>> >> Democrats in moderate-to-conservative districts who have promoted their
>> >> support for the health care measure on the campaign trail, and most
>> don't
>> >> even acknowledge it.
>> >>
>> >> "To a lot of folks, it was a symbol of government," said Beattie, the
>> >> Florida-based pollster. "It's not about the content for most voters."
>> >>
>> >> Already, the finger-pointing is beginning. With outside conservative
>> >> groups
>> >> pouring millions of dollars into races across the country, some
>> operatives
>> >> singled out liberal interest groups for not engaging in the election.
>> >>
>> >> "If there's one person to blame, it's the liberal groups who said they
>> >> would get involved early but they didn't," said the media consultant.
>> >> "I
>> >> think they've been totally unhelpful."
>> >>
>> >> But, most of the consultants said, much of the post-election scrutiny
>> >> would
>> >> surround President Barack Obama and a White House political operation
>> that
>> >> over the past two years struggled to sell an ambitious agenda that
>> turned
>> >> out to be radioactive to a wide swath of the electorate.
>> >>
>> >> "Here's the part of this that bothers me the most: This is not an
>> >> embracing
>> >> of Republicans. It's a rejection of Democrats," said Andrew Myers, a
>> >> veteran
>> >> Democratic pollster who worked on several House campaigns.
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=03A44CBF-0C07-448A-99CB09FC8163E166
>> >>
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Re: Grim Dems await huge House losses :-)))))

Tommy come out from behind Michelle's fat spreading ass

If anyone here was violent you would have been beaten up for fun and dead long ago

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Travis is a violent bully.

On 11/1/10, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can think of 533 PoS's that I would like to help join the unemployment
> line.  I have a 2X4 handy too.
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>    *Grim Dems await huge House losses*
>> By: Alex Isenstadt
>> October 31, 2010 04:53 PM EDT
>>
>> The last TV ads have been cut. The final polls have been conducted. The
>> end-of-campaign expenditures are being made.
>>
>> Now, for Democratic consultants and campaign officials who have plotted
>> and
>> strategized for months to preserve the embattled House majority, there's
>> nothing left to do but sit and wait for the expected horrors of Election
>> Day
>> to unfold.
>>
>> There is nearly uniform consensus among Democratic campaign professionals
>> that the House is gone — the only question, it seems, is how many seats
>> they
>> will lose.
>>
>> While few will say so on the record for fear of alienating party officials
>> or depressing turnout, every one of nearly a dozen Democratic House
>> consultants and political strategists surveyed expect a GOP majority to be
>> elected Tuesday — the consensus was that Democrats would lose somewhere
>> between 50 and 60 seats.
>>
>> A senior party consultant who was on the low end with his predictions said
>> the party would lose between 40 and 50 seats. On the high end, one
>> Democratic consultant said losses could number around 70 seats.
>>
>> All spoke to the grimness of the mood.
>>
>> "It sucks," said Dave Beattie, a Florida-based Democratic pollster who is
>> working on a slate of competitive House races and who acknowledges that
>> the
>> lower congressional chamber is lost. "I'm resigned to the fact that it
>> sucks."
>>
>> While there was optimistic talk within party circles early this month that
>> the electoral environment was improving for the party, the operatives said
>> those conversations don't take place anymore.
>>
>> "If some Democratic consultant told you they are feeling better, they must
>> have dropped some heavy drugs," said a senior pollster who is working for
>> candidates in competitive races. "It's hard."
>>
>> The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee this week launched
>> something of a last-ditch offensive to save some of its incumbents,
>> purchasing airtime to defend endangered members like Iowa Rep. Dave
>> Loebsack, Illinois Rep. Bill Foster and New Jersey Rep. John Adler — all
>> of
>> whom are highly vulnerable but whom party officials believe could
>> ultimately
>> prevail.
>>
>> The committee also sought to shore up incumbents who until recently were
>> not thought to be in electoral peril: Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva, Iowa
>> Rep.
>> Bruce Braley and North Carolina Rep. Mike McIntyre.
>>
>> Still, among those in the Democratic consulting class, there's a gloomy
>> acknowledgment that many of the incumbents the DCCC has spent millions of
>> dollars to protect won't be coming back to Congress.
>>
>> "Everybody that is tied will lose, and everyone that is ahead by a few
>> points will lose because of the GOP wave," said one party media consultant
>> who is involved in a wide array of House races. "There are going to be
>> some
>> surprises."
>>
>> Some strategists have resigned themselves to an election night that will
>> bring an early end to the promising careers of Democrats they shepherded
>> to
>> victories in 2006 and 2008.
>>
>> "In a wave election, part of the problem is that you feel powerless.
>> Everything I feel I know how to do, that I'm trained to do, I can't do.
>> And
>> that feeling is pervasive," said the pollster. "There's a sense that
>> there's
>> nothing you can do about it. When you know your friends are on the
>> chopping
>> block, it's hard."
>>
>> "There's nothing worse than talking to an incumbent member of Congress
>> who's been cut off by the DCCC and who has no money," said another
>> Democratic consultant who has worked on crafting some of the party's TV
>> ads
>> this cycle. "It's like talking to a dead man walking."
>>
>> But Nov. 2 will also bring a welcome end to a rough final stretch that
>> left
>> many party strategists frustrated. Some talked about having to switch
>> campaign strategies multiple times in hapless attempts to raise
>> rock-bottom
>> poll numbers.
>>
>> "It's a 24-hour labor," said John Anzalone, an Alabama-based pollster who
>> works closely with the DCCC. "In 2006 and 2008, everything was going your
>> way. This is brutal."
>>
>> There is ongoing debate within Democratic circles about when, exactly, the
>> party lost its handle on the electoral environment. Some consultants say
>> they realized they lost the House in early October, when it finally became
>> apparent that incumbents couldn't move their poll numbers.
>>
>> But others say the electoral map hardened this spring, after the House
>> passed a health care bill that remains deeply unpopular among voters.
>> Democratic campaign officials say it is no accident that there are few
>> Democrats in moderate-to-conservative districts who have promoted their
>> support for the health care measure on the campaign trail, and most don't
>> even acknowledge it.
>>
>> "To a lot of folks, it was a symbol of government," said Beattie, the
>> Florida-based pollster. "It's not about the content for most voters."
>>
>> Already, the finger-pointing is beginning. With outside conservative
>> groups
>> pouring millions of dollars into races across the country, some operatives
>> singled out liberal interest groups for not engaging in the election.
>>
>> "If there's one person to blame, it's the liberal groups who said they
>> would get involved early but they didn't," said the media consultant. "I
>> think they've been totally unhelpful."
>>
>> But, most of the consultants said, much of the post-election scrutiny
>> would
>> surround President Barack Obama and a White House political operation that
>> over the past two years struggled to sell an ambitious agenda that turned
>> out to be radioactive to a wide swath of the electorate.
>>
>> "Here's the part of this that bothers me the most: This is not an
>> embracing
>> of Republicans. It's a rejection of Democrats," said Andrew Myers, a
>> veteran
>> Democratic pollster who worked on several House campaigns.
>>
>> http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=03A44CBF-0C07-448A-99CB09FC8163E166
>>
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Re: Urgent Message to New York State Voters: Don't Let Obstructionist Republicans Win Back The State Senate

What is false about it. 38 - 8 = 30 and 24 + 8 = 32. Bill would pass
32 - 30. Blame your Dems who voted against it. That was the
difference. Guess in addition to failing logic you also failed math.

On 11/01/2010 02:15 PM, Tommy News wrote:
> False twisted pretzel logic. No dice, no points to Dick.
>
>
>
> On 11/1/10, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> And the support of the people of NY state is what? Do you have numbers
>> as to what support this has?
>>
>> Also remember that members of legislative bodies represent their
>> constituents. Suppose the constituents supported civil unions but not
>> marriage, something which is common across the country. If the civil
>> union gave you the benefits of marriage, why would you give a damn. And
>> if the constituents supported civil unions but not marriage, then that
>> is what their senators should vote. Did you ask why the 8 Dems voted
>> against? If they had not voted against it would have passed 32-30.
>> Blame them!
>>
>> On 11/01/2010 02:01 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>> On December 2nd, 2009, by a vote of 38
>>> Nays to 24 Yeas, The New York State Senate Voted Against Marriage
>>> Equality.
>>> Every single Republican and eight Democrats voted for discrimination.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/1/10, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> What stand-alone bill did the Republicans vote for discrimination. If
>>>> you are still harping on DADT, they should have noted against that
>>>> debacle. The garbage that was tacked onto that bill made it imperative
>>>> to see it did not get passed.
>>>>
>>>> If you want repeal of DADT passed, then put up a bill that repeals
>>>> DADT. Also make sure that you also change the UCMJ as well. As it
>>>> stands now if all you do is let the judge say DADT is bad, then it
>>>> defaults to the older legislation in UCMJ which actually does not even
>>>> include DADT but only dismissal. Stop playing stupid games with the
>>>> crap. Pitiful! Also remember who first passed and signed DADT. And
>>>> no, it was not the Republicans. Thank your hero, Bubba, and his crew
>>>> that were in charge.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/01/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>>>> Every single Republican voted for discrimination.
>>>>> Every single one. No exceptions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do NOT vote for a Republican obstructionist under ANY circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>> A Republican Mammoth:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNhVxhrwnnsNAk0dYuT8PvXUIV9y9tWhKf2_uKzKfQ_0KcsIjKkbhYhvdcAIE04c5AKTqYjLLuy27i1NoX737NSx04zgkVJK3kVk68RR3WGAuKqlzZHkDGbhMmIKv3nzOdp6PS9Fe6DSnd/s400/GOP+mammoth+large.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> --
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Re: Grim Dems await huge House losses :-)))))

Travis is a violent bully.

On 11/1/10, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can think of 533 PoS's that I would like to help join the unemployment
> line. I have a 2X4 handy too.
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *Grim Dems await huge House losses*
>> By: Alex Isenstadt
>> October 31, 2010 04:53 PM EDT
>>
>> The last TV ads have been cut. The final polls have been conducted. The
>> end-of-campaign expenditures are being made.
>>
>> Now, for Democratic consultants and campaign officials who have plotted
>> and
>> strategized for months to preserve the embattled House majority, there's
>> nothing left to do but sit and wait for the expected horrors of Election
>> Day
>> to unfold.
>>
>> There is nearly uniform consensus among Democratic campaign professionals
>> that the House is gone — the only question, it seems, is how many seats
>> they
>> will lose.
>>
>> While few will say so on the record for fear of alienating party officials
>> or depressing turnout, every one of nearly a dozen Democratic House
>> consultants and political strategists surveyed expect a GOP majority to be
>> elected Tuesday — the consensus was that Democrats would lose somewhere
>> between 50 and 60 seats.
>>
>> A senior party consultant who was on the low end with his predictions said
>> the party would lose between 40 and 50 seats. On the high end, one
>> Democratic consultant said losses could number around 70 seats.
>>
>> All spoke to the grimness of the mood.
>>
>> "It sucks," said Dave Beattie, a Florida-based Democratic pollster who is
>> working on a slate of competitive House races and who acknowledges that
>> the
>> lower congressional chamber is lost. "I'm resigned to the fact that it
>> sucks."
>>
>> While there was optimistic talk within party circles early this month that
>> the electoral environment was improving for the party, the operatives said
>> those conversations don't take place anymore.
>>
>> "If some Democratic consultant told you they are feeling better, they must
>> have dropped some heavy drugs," said a senior pollster who is working for
>> candidates in competitive races. "It's hard."
>>
>> The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee this week launched
>> something of a last-ditch offensive to save some of its incumbents,
>> purchasing airtime to defend endangered members like Iowa Rep. Dave
>> Loebsack, Illinois Rep. Bill Foster and New Jersey Rep. John Adler — all
>> of
>> whom are highly vulnerable but whom party officials believe could
>> ultimately
>> prevail.
>>
>> The committee also sought to shore up incumbents who until recently were
>> not thought to be in electoral peril: Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva, Iowa
>> Rep.
>> Bruce Braley and North Carolina Rep. Mike McIntyre.
>>
>> Still, among those in the Democratic consulting class, there's a gloomy
>> acknowledgment that many of the incumbents the DCCC has spent millions of
>> dollars to protect won't be coming back to Congress.
>>
>> "Everybody that is tied will lose, and everyone that is ahead by a few
>> points will lose because of the GOP wave," said one party media consultant
>> who is involved in a wide array of House races. "There are going to be
>> some
>> surprises."
>>
>> Some strategists have resigned themselves to an election night that will
>> bring an early end to the promising careers of Democrats they shepherded
>> to
>> victories in 2006 and 2008.
>>
>> "In a wave election, part of the problem is that you feel powerless.
>> Everything I feel I know how to do, that I'm trained to do, I can't do.
>> And
>> that feeling is pervasive," said the pollster. "There's a sense that
>> there's
>> nothing you can do about it. When you know your friends are on the
>> chopping
>> block, it's hard."
>>
>> "There's nothing worse than talking to an incumbent member of Congress
>> who's been cut off by the DCCC and who has no money," said another
>> Democratic consultant who has worked on crafting some of the party's TV
>> ads
>> this cycle. "It's like talking to a dead man walking."
>>
>> But Nov. 2 will also bring a welcome end to a rough final stretch that
>> left
>> many party strategists frustrated. Some talked about having to switch
>> campaign strategies multiple times in hapless attempts to raise
>> rock-bottom
>> poll numbers.
>>
>> "It's a 24-hour labor," said John Anzalone, an Alabama-based pollster who
>> works closely with the DCCC. "In 2006 and 2008, everything was going your
>> way. This is brutal."
>>
>> There is ongoing debate within Democratic circles about when, exactly, the
>> party lost its handle on the electoral environment. Some consultants say
>> they realized they lost the House in early October, when it finally became
>> apparent that incumbents couldn't move their poll numbers.
>>
>> But others say the electoral map hardened this spring, after the House
>> passed a health care bill that remains deeply unpopular among voters.
>> Democratic campaign officials say it is no accident that there are few
>> Democrats in moderate-to-conservative districts who have promoted their
>> support for the health care measure on the campaign trail, and most don't
>> even acknowledge it.
>>
>> "To a lot of folks, it was a symbol of government," said Beattie, the
>> Florida-based pollster. "It's not about the content for most voters."
>>
>> Already, the finger-pointing is beginning. With outside conservative
>> groups
>> pouring millions of dollars into races across the country, some operatives
>> singled out liberal interest groups for not engaging in the election.
>>
>> "If there's one person to blame, it's the liberal groups who said they
>> would get involved early but they didn't," said the media consultant. "I
>> think they've been totally unhelpful."
>>
>> But, most of the consultants said, much of the post-election scrutiny
>> would
>> surround President Barack Obama and a White House political operation that
>> over the past two years struggled to sell an ambitious agenda that turned
>> out to be radioactive to a wide swath of the electorate.
>>
>> "Here's the part of this that bothers me the most: This is not an
>> embracing
>> of Republicans. It's a rejection of Democrats," said Andrew Myers, a
>> veteran
>> Democratic pollster who worked on several House campaigns.
>>
>> http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=03A44CBF-0C07-448A-99CB09FC8163E166
>>
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Re: Urgent Message to New York State Voters: Don't Let Obstructionist Republicans Win Back The State Senate

False twisted pretzel logic. No dice, no points to Dick.

On 11/1/10, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
> And the support of the people of NY state is what? Do you have numbers
> as to what support this has?
>
> Also remember that members of legislative bodies represent their
> constituents. Suppose the constituents supported civil unions but not
> marriage, something which is common across the country. If the civil
> union gave you the benefits of marriage, why would you give a damn. And
> if the constituents supported civil unions but not marriage, then that
> is what their senators should vote. Did you ask why the 8 Dems voted
> against? If they had not voted against it would have passed 32-30.
> Blame them!
>
> On 11/01/2010 02:01 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> On December 2nd, 2009, by a vote of 38
>> Nays to 24 Yeas, The New York State Senate Voted Against Marriage
>> Equality.
>> Every single Republican and eight Democrats voted for discrimination.
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/10, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> What stand-alone bill did the Republicans vote for discrimination. If
>>> you are still harping on DADT, they should have noted against that
>>> debacle. The garbage that was tacked onto that bill made it imperative
>>> to see it did not get passed.
>>>
>>> If you want repeal of DADT passed, then put up a bill that repeals
>>> DADT. Also make sure that you also change the UCMJ as well. As it
>>> stands now if all you do is let the judge say DADT is bad, then it
>>> defaults to the older legislation in UCMJ which actually does not even
>>> include DADT but only dismissal. Stop playing stupid games with the
>>> crap. Pitiful! Also remember who first passed and signed DADT. And
>>> no, it was not the Republicans. Thank your hero, Bubba, and his crew
>>> that were in charge.
>>>
>>> On 11/01/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>>> Every single Republican voted for discrimination.
>>>> Every single one. No exceptions.
>>>>
>>>> Do NOT vote for a Republican obstructionist under ANY circumstances.
>>>>
>>>> A Republican Mammoth:
>>>>
>>>> https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNhVxhrwnnsNAk0dYuT8PvXUIV9y9tWhKf2_uKzKfQ_0KcsIjKkbhYhvdcAIE04c5AKTqYjLLuy27i1NoX737NSx04zgkVJK3kVk68RR3WGAuKqlzZHkDGbhMmIKv3nzOdp6PS9Fe6DSnd/s400/GOP+mammoth+large.jpg
>>>>
>>>> On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
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Tommy

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