Thursday, September 16, 2010

Carl Paladino, NY Gov GOP Candidate, on CNN, says he opposes gay marriage and abortion

Paladino, on CNN, says he opposes gay marriage and abortion

September
15

Buffalo businessman and Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino was quizzed on CNN this afternoon by host Rick Sanchez on the Park51 project, gay marriage and abortion.

It was his first national interview since winning the Republican primary against former Rep. Rick Lazio.

Paladino said he opposes gay marriage, but is in favor of civil unions.

"It's fine, I think if the definition of unions is what we have right now I'm fine with that, I have no anxiety" he said.

Sanchez asked him about his position on abortion, which Paladino said he opposes in all cases.

Sanchez: What is your position on abortion?

Paladino: No.

Sanchez: Should a woman have a right to an abortion if she's been raped?

Paladino: No.

Sanchez: She should not? She should have to have the baby?

Paladino: The baby can be adopted.

Sanchez: What if it's a case of incest?

Paladino: The baby can be adopted, yes.

Sanchez spent the majority of the interview, which ran in two segments, on Paladino's stance on the Muslim community center being built near the site of the World Trade Center. Paladino opposes the project and said he would seek to turn the area into a war memorial. Sanchez grilled him on his opposition, which Paladino appeared to bristle at.

"You believe in the political correctness of those views, I don't," he said.

More:
http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2010/09/15/paladino-on-cnn-says-he-opposes-gay-marriage-and-abortion/

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Re: What is the 'tea party' and how is it shaking up American politics?

I'm doing great Nominal,
 
So.....When you see Tea Party Patriots,  your mind wanders to having oral sex?
 
Okay.....I think that speaks volumes..... 

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM, nominal9 <nominal9@yahoo.com> wrote:
I've got this "gag"... hope it doesn't get me censored off this
site..... it isn't about any other poster or even about any  one
"public personality.... although a "public personality" should be fair
game to Satire, Parody and such (Heck, Travis seems to get away with a
lot of that)..........It's about the Tea Party Express
Do you know what the Tea Party Exress Train sounds like?
It goes....

Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew

HAR...
how you doin' Keith from Tampa?


On Sep 15, 3:50 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Election-2010/2010/0915/What-is-the-tea-...
>
> By Brad Knickerbocker, Staff writer / September 15, 2010
>
> In recent months, the "tea party" movement has swept across the
> political landscape, sending shivers through both major political
> parties and shaking up this year's midterm elections.
>
> Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
> Related Stories
> 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet admirers,' poll finds
> 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper sticker? Tea
> Party - All coverage What began as a minor insurgency featuring
> protesters waving signs of dubious syntax, followed by racially tinged
> conspiracies about President Obama's lineage and religion and
> ostentatiously displayed firearms – and cheered on by some
> conservative commentators and bloggers – is now winning elections that
> could determine the balance of power in the US Congress. (The main
> question here is, does the trend favor Republicans or Democrats?)
>
> There is no such thing as the "tea party." It is not organized as
> such, and in fact the movement in some sense is antiparty – even
> though most of its political pot-stirring has been within the GOP.
>
> IN PICTURES: Tea Parties
>
> Join our conversation about the tea party on Facebook.
> The "Taxed Enough Already" movement took initial aim at federal
> government attempts to bail out and then stimulate a faltering economy
> – attempts that had begun during the Bush administration – as well as
> at the Obama administration's push for health-care insurance reform.
>
> If the movement had a symbolic beginning, it was in January 2009 with
> stock-trader Graham Makohoniuk's call to mail tea bags to members of
> Congress. Conservative bloggers took up the theme, CNBC's Rick
> Santelli made his famous rant against government help for underwater
> home mortgages, and public protests around the country began.
>
> Since then, the movement has sprouted (although not been defined or
> controlled by) several major organizations.
>
> Tea Party Patriots says it has more than 1,000 community-based tea
> party groups around the country. The group's mission is to "attract,
> educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public
> policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility,
> Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets," according to
> its website.
>
> FreedomWorks, chaired by former US House majority leader Dick Armey,
> claims "hundreds of thousands of grassroots volunteers nationwide."
> FreedomWorks goes back to 1984, but has become a major source of the
> tea party movement's promotion and activities. It was an organizer of
> last Sunday's Taxpayer March on Washington.
>
> Page: 1 | 2
> The Tea Party Express, based in Sacramento, Calif., was a major force
> behind the Republican primary victories of Sharron Angle in Nevada,
> Joe Miller in Alaska, and Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. It was also
> a major donor to Scott Brown's successful campaign for US Senate in
> Massachusetts.
>
> Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
> Related Stories
> 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet admirers,' poll finds
> 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper sticker? Tea
> Party - All coverage There may not be a "tea party" per se, but its
> adherents' philosophy and aims are officially represented on Capitol
> Hill. In July, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R) of Minnesota formed the Tea
> Party Caucus. Fifty lawmakers quickly joined the group.
>
> While national organizations and grass-roots groups have their own
> stated goals, there is a tea party manifesto of sorts, which
> candidates are being encouraged to endorse. It's the Contract From
> America, launched by Ryan Hecker, an attorney and activist in Houston.
>
> Meanwhile, a clearer picture of tea partyers is emerging.
>
> In March, the Sam Adams Alliance, a Chicago-based nonprofit, issued a
> report based on a national survey of the tea party movement, its
> leaders, and their motivations.
>
> Among the findings:
>
> • 86 percent oppose the formation of a third party.
> • 36 percent support a 2012 Sarah Palin presidential candidacy.
> • 81 percent have a website for their organization.
> • 90 percent cited "to stand up for my beliefs" when characterizing
> their initial reason for involvement.
> • 62 percent identified as Republicans, 28 percent as Independents, 10
> percent as "Tea Party."
>
> "Tea Party activists are for the most part new to this role," the
> report states. "They are neither practiced nor polished in activism;
> but having experienced a taste of the empowerment that comes with
> action, they feel more than ever that this is their time to act. Above
> all, they are motivated by a fear of NOT acting.... Their diversity is
> their strength, and they are not a movement that can easily be defined
> by those jumping up to lead them. They are powerful and, in this
> sense, they are the 'early adopters' of a new type of political
> involvement."
>
> More recently, the Sam Adams Alliance reports that significant numbers
> of newcomers to the tea party movement are dropping their affiliation
> with the GOP: Forty-seven percent changed their political affiliation
> to "Independent/unaffiliated," 20 percent changed to "other," 20
> percent to "Tea Party," and 13 percent to "Libertarian."
>
> That's exactly why Republicans as well as Democrats are very concerned
> about this new movement in American politics.

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Re: Fwd: Il faut créer un mouvement tea party en France

à savoir le refus, hétérogène, de se voir imposer d'en haut une
vision idéaliste, désincarnée, réduisant le vivre ensemble au "care",
comparant toute volonté de conserver un certain art de vivre comme
réactionnaire, analysant enfin tout refus de confondre ouverture et
disparition comme raciste

Are you sure that you want to "second" this opinion of the Tea
Party?.....dick thompson?

Sounds like something I might say about it.... and that probably isn't
"good" from your standpoint

It's been a while.... but I still know a "smattering" of French...
nominal9

On Sep 15, 7:15 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>      Interesting from France
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:        Il faut cr�er un mouvement tea party en France
> Date:   Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:01:15 +0200
> From:   Oulahbib <lucien.oulah...@free.fr>
> To:     Lucien Oulahbib <lucien.oulah...@free.fr>
>
> > *
> > *
>
> >http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/article-il-faut-creer-un-mouvement...
>
> > st-trop-paques-20040045.jpgLa plupart des commentateurs, de gauche ou
> > de droite, en France (/*Le Monde*
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.lemonde.fr/amerique...>/,
> > */Le Figaro
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.lefigaro.fr/interna...>/*)
> > et aux USA (/*New York time
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09...>**s
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09...>*/,
> > /*Washington Post
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.washingtonpost.com/...>*/),
> > pensent que *les r�cents succ�s
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.foxnews.com/politic...>* de
> > ce mouvement */tea party
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.laviedesidees.fr/Te...>/* va
> > emp�cher les R�publicains de prendre leur revanche sur Obama tant
> > leurs positions "ultra-droite" feraient peur aux ind�pendants et aux
> > d�mocrates conservateurs qui auraient aim� donner une le�on de
> > d�fiance � leur propre parti lors des �lections partielles de Novembre.
>
> > Rien n'est moins s�r. Car les */tea party
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.foxnews.com/politic...>/* ne
> > se r�sument pas � des positions pro life et anti-masturbatoires, la
> > r�volte est bien plus large et profonde (�coutez *Mark Levin
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.marklevinshow.com/s...>*,
> > que m'a conseill�*Paul Rhoads
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://paulrhoads.fr/>*, et
> > vous comprendrez peut-�tre), elle est sans doute � rapprocher aux
> > mouvements souterrains r�silients depuis des ann�es qui se font
> > d�sormais jour en Hollande, en Allemagne, en Su�de maintenant, en
> > Italie et en France depuis quelques temps, � savoir le refus,
> > h�t�rog�ne, de se voir imposer d'en haut une vision id�aliste,
> > d�sincarn�e, r�duisant le vivre ensemble au "care", comparant toute
> > volont� de conserver un certain art de vivre comme r�actionnaire,
> > analysant enfin tout refus de confondre ouverture et disparition comme
> > raciste ; *telle cette commissaire luxembourgeoise par exemple,
> > <http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/ext/http://www.lefigaro.fr/interna...>* ce
> > qui ne veut cependant pas dire que les "roms" ne soient pas aussi un
> > moyen �lectoraliste � faible co�t pour la vieille droite �tatiste
> > fran�aise qui ne sait plus quoi faire pour colmater les br�ches d'un
> > bateau en perdition alors que les zones de non droit, et aussi de
> > pauvret� organis�e faute d'innovations et de r�formes profondes,
> > s'�tendent en France.
>
> > Les /tea party/ sont �videmment d�nonc�es par les id�ologues de
> > Hollywood, de New York, de Washington DC, et aussi de st Germain des
> > Pr�s puisqu'ils incarnent tous le nihilisme �tatiste d�nonc� par les
> > /tea part/y en ce qu'il parasite l'espace public, l'id�al public, la
> > volont� commune, et tr�s pratiquement les fonds publics pour fabriquer
> > leur gloire par la victimisation (du "care") c'est-�-dire par la
> > transformation du peuple en assist�s scotch�s aux frasques de leur ego
> > suppos� artistique ; ce fut le cas dans les pays lamin�s par le
> > communisme o� l'on vit une super �lite jetsetis�e en catimini dominer
> > comme jamais au nom de l'�galit� et de la justice.
>
> > Il ne s'agit donc pas de populisme, mais de se lib�rer de cha�nes
> > install�es � nos poignets pour notre bien alors que ces bienfaiteurs
> > sont en r�alit� le principal obstacle pour r�ellement faire de
> > l'espace commun un bien au service de toutes et de tous.
>
> > Peut-�tre que les Banquets R�publicains qui vont se mettre peu � peu
> > en place en France � l'initiative de R�sistance r�publicaine vont-ils
> > jouer leur r�le sp�cifique de f�d�ration de courants divers et vari�s
> > tous unis pour d�fendre et moderniser notre civilisation la�que,
> > libre, et tol�rante ?... It's up to us : cela ne tient qu'� nous.
>
> > lucien.oulah...@free.fr <mailto:lucien.oulah...@free.fr>
> > 0664944909
> >http://lucien.samir.free.fr/biographie/index.html- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: What is the 'tea party' and how is it shaking up American politics?

I've got this "gag"... hope it doesn't get me censored off this
site..... it isn't about any other poster or even about any one
"public personality.... although a "public personality" should be fair
game to Satire, Parody and such (Heck, Travis seems to get away with a
lot of that)..........It's about the Tea Party Express
Do you know what the Tea Party Exress Train sounds like?
It goes....

Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew

HAR...
how you doin' Keith from Tampa?


On Sep 15, 3:50 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Election-2010/2010/0915/What-is-the-tea-...
>
> By Brad Knickerbocker, Staff writer / September 15, 2010
>
> In recent months, the "tea party" movement has swept across the
> political landscape, sending shivers through both major political
> parties and shaking up this year's midterm elections.
>
> Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
> Related Stories
> 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet admirers,' poll finds
> 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper sticker? Tea
> Party - All coverage What began as a minor insurgency featuring
> protesters waving signs of dubious syntax, followed by racially tinged
> conspiracies about President Obama's lineage and religion and
> ostentatiously displayed firearms – and cheered on by some
> conservative commentators and bloggers – is now winning elections that
> could determine the balance of power in the US Congress. (The main
> question here is, does the trend favor Republicans or Democrats?)
>
> There is no such thing as the "tea party." It is not organized as
> such, and in fact the movement in some sense is antiparty – even
> though most of its political pot-stirring has been within the GOP.
>
> IN PICTURES: Tea Parties
>
> Join our conversation about the tea party on Facebook.
> The "Taxed Enough Already" movement took initial aim at federal
> government attempts to bail out and then stimulate a faltering economy
> – attempts that had begun during the Bush administration – as well as
> at the Obama administration's push for health-care insurance reform.
>
> If the movement had a symbolic beginning, it was in January 2009 with
> stock-trader Graham Makohoniuk's call to mail tea bags to members of
> Congress. Conservative bloggers took up the theme, CNBC's Rick
> Santelli made his famous rant against government help for underwater
> home mortgages, and public protests around the country began.
>
> Since then, the movement has sprouted (although not been defined or
> controlled by) several major organizations.
>
> Tea Party Patriots says it has more than 1,000 community-based tea
> party groups around the country. The group's mission is to "attract,
> educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public
> policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility,
> Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets," according to
> its website.
>
> FreedomWorks, chaired by former US House majority leader Dick Armey,
> claims "hundreds of thousands of grassroots volunteers nationwide."
> FreedomWorks goes back to 1984, but has become a major source of the
> tea party movement's promotion and activities. It was an organizer of
> last Sunday's Taxpayer March on Washington.
>
> Page: 1 | 2
> The Tea Party Express, based in Sacramento, Calif., was a major force
> behind the Republican primary victories of Sharron Angle in Nevada,
> Joe Miller in Alaska, and Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. It was also
> a major donor to Scott Brown's successful campaign for US Senate in
> Massachusetts.
>
> Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
> Related Stories
> 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet admirers,' poll finds
> 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper sticker? Tea
> Party - All coverage There may not be a "tea party" per se, but its
> adherents' philosophy and aims are officially represented on Capitol
> Hill. In July, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R) of Minnesota formed the Tea
> Party Caucus. Fifty lawmakers quickly joined the group.
>
> While national organizations and grass-roots groups have their own
> stated goals, there is a tea party manifesto of sorts, which
> candidates are being encouraged to endorse. It's the Contract From
> America, launched by Ryan Hecker, an attorney and activist in Houston.
>
> Meanwhile, a clearer picture of tea partyers is emerging.
>
> In March, the Sam Adams Alliance, a Chicago-based nonprofit, issued a
> report based on a national survey of the tea party movement, its
> leaders, and their motivations.
>
> Among the findings:
>
> • 86 percent oppose the formation of a third party.
> • 36 percent support a 2012 Sarah Palin presidential candidacy.
> • 81 percent have a website for their organization.
> • 90 percent cited "to stand up for my beliefs" when characterizing
> their initial reason for involvement.
> • 62 percent identified as Republicans, 28 percent as Independents, 10
> percent as "Tea Party."
>
> "Tea Party activists are for the most part new to this role," the
> report states. "They are neither practiced nor polished in activism;
> but having experienced a taste of the empowerment that comes with
> action, they feel more than ever that this is their time to act. Above
> all, they are motivated by a fear of NOT acting.... Their diversity is
> their strength, and they are not a movement that can easily be defined
> by those jumping up to lead them. They are powerful and, in this
> sense, they are the 'early adopters' of a new type of political
> involvement."
>
> More recently, the Sam Adams Alliance reports that significant numbers
> of newcomers to the tea party movement are dropping their affiliation
> with the GOP: Forty-seven percent changed their political affiliation
> to "Independent/unaffiliated," 20 percent changed to "other," 20
> percent to "Tea Party," and 13 percent to "Libertarian."
>
> That's exactly why Republicans as well as Democrats are very concerned
> about this new movement in American politics.

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Fwd: Il faut créer un mouvement tea party en France

    Interesting from France

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Il faut créer un mouvement tea party en France
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:01:15 +0200
From: Oulahbib <lucien.oulahbib@free.fr>
To: Lucien Oulahbib <lucien.oulahbib@free.fr>



http://www.lucien-sa-oulahbib.info/article-il-faut-creer-un-mouvement-tea-party-en-france-57131895.html

st-trop-paques-20040045.jpgLa plupart des commentateurs, de gauche ou de droite, en France (Le Monde, Le Figaro) et aux USA (New York times, Washington Post), pensent que les récents succès de ce mouvement tea party va empêcher les Républicains de prendre leur revanche sur Obama tant leurs positions "ultra-droite" feraient peur aux indépendants et aux démocrates conservateurs qui auraient aimé donner une leçon de défiance à leur propre parti lors des élections partielles de Novembre.

Rien n'est moins sûr. Car les tea party ne se résument pas à des positions pro life et anti-masturbatoires, la révolte est bien plus large et profonde (écoutez Mark Levin, que m'a conseilléPaul Rhoads, et vous comprendrez peut-être), elle est sans doute à rapprocher aux mouvements souterrains résilients depuis des années qui se font désormais jour en Hollande, en Allemagne, en Suède maintenant, en Italie et en France depuis quelques temps, à savoir le refus, hétérogène, de se voir imposer d'en haut une vision idéaliste, désincarnée, réduisant le vivre ensemble au "care", comparant toute volonté de conserver un certain art de vivre comme réactionnaire, analysant enfin tout refus de confondre ouverture et disparition comme raciste ; telle cette commissaire luxembourgeoise par exemple, ce qui ne veut cependant pas dire que les "roms" ne soient pas aussi un moyen électoraliste à faible coût pour la vieille droite étatiste française qui ne sait plus quoi faire pour colmater les brèches d'un bateau en perdition alors que les zones de non droit, et aussi de pauvreté organisée faute d'innovations et de réformes profondes, s'étendent en France.

 Les tea party sont évidemment dénoncées par les idéologues de Hollywood, de New York, de Washington DC, et aussi de st Germain des Prés puisqu'ils incarnent tous le nihilisme étatiste dénoncé par les tea party en ce qu'il parasite l'espace public, l'idéal public, la volonté commune, et très pratiquement les fonds publics pour fabriquer leur gloire par la victimisation (du "care") c'est-à-dire par la transformation du peuple en assistés scotchés aux frasques de leur ego supposé artistique ; ce fut le cas dans les pays laminés par le communisme où l'on vit une super élite jetsetisée en catimini dominer comme jamais au nom de l'égalité et de la justice.

Il ne s'agit donc pas de populisme, mais de se libérer de chaînes installées à nos poignets pour notre bien alors que ces bienfaiteurs sont en réalité le principal obstacle pour réellement faire de l'espace commun un bien au service de toutes et de tous.

Peut-être que les Banquets Républicains qui vont se mettre peu à peu en place en France à l'initiative de Résistance républicaine vont-ils jouer leur rôle spécifique de fédération de courants divers et variés tous unis pour défendre et moderniser notre civilisation laïque, libre, et tolérante ?... It's up to us : cela ne tient qu'à nous.