Sunday, June 27, 2010
Re: liberals want peace, safety, prosperity, respect, freedom, liberty and equality
gotta start somewhere - I figure we gotta get the born ones taken care
of first, then we can worry about their wombs.
of first, then we can worry about their wombs.
On Jun 27, 1:48 am, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Please define human life. Unborn life? condemned life? or what are
> talking about.
>
> On 27 Juni, 08:13, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The state must be infused with respect for human life above material
> > possessions, or we are all in hell.
>
> > On Jun 27, 12:52 am, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I agree with you, material possessions are everything but the rest is
> > > up to you.
>
> > > On 27 Juni, 07:32, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > No, you are at the extreme where material possessions are everything,
> > > > other people are expendable.
>
> > > > On Jun 26, 11:22 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > And what is your point? More right wing than right and your back at
> > > > > the left.
>
> > > > > On 27 Juni, 06:12, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Libertarian. More right wing THAN right wing, is their motto.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 26, 10:55 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > What about Ronald Ernest Paul,
>
> > > > > > > On 27 Juni, 05:52, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > There aren't any liberals in the Republican party.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 10:46 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > There are no political party called the Liberals.
>
> > > > > > > > > On 27 Juni, 05:02, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Republicans, on the other hand, are scum.- Hide quoted text -
>
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Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
I wish I could be there when you explain it to yours.
On Jun 27, 2:06 am, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The hands held rocks and the arms in the air were throwing them. The choir boy
> is dead. He won't be arrested again. He won't be smuggling again. He won't be
> attacking again. Let him tell it to his God.
>
> ________________________________
> From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 11:10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> A man who shoots a kid across the border with his hands in the air is
> guilty of murder.
>
> On Jun 27, 12:49 am, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Could you please fully explain the complete line of thought behind that ??
>
> > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The border control guard is the perp.
>
> > > On Jun 26, 11:20 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In this case is not about the victim but about the perp.
>
> > > > On 27 Juni, 06:13, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > shot a man, just to watch him die
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > in this case, a 14 year old kid.
>
> > > > > On Jun 26, 10:09 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgja26eNeY
>
> > > > > > On 27 Juni, 05:02, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Get in the car, and drive my prisoners with me out of the area. I
> > > > > > > would not shoot at a kid throwing rocks.
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 26, 9:13 pm, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Euwe,
> > > > > > > > You didn't answer my question. What would YOU have done if
> > > criminals were
> > > > > > > > throwing a barrage of rocks at YOU?
>
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 8:46:44 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > Absolutely - kids have gotten a free ride long enough - it's time
> > > to
> > > > > > > > start lowering the age of outrage - kill them in the womb!
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 12:27 am, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Why not? If a "most wanted juvenile smuggler" with a record
> > > starting at age
> > > > > > > > 13
> > > > > > > > > is throwing rocks from 30-40 feet away it could do a hell of a
> > > lot of damage.
> > > > > > > > > They weren't wiffle rocks! The kid, and others, was
> > > determined to hurt the
> > > > > > > > > Border Patrol Agents. He had no respect for laws or life.
> > > Now, the choir boy
> > > > > > > > > is dead. He will smuggle no more. He should have been at home
> > > studying. His
> > > > > > > > > parents are now paying the price for neglect and disrespect for
> > > America. They
> > > > > > > > > should have given him a "time out" after his first arrest.
>
> > > > > > > > > I lost two sons to cancer. I know the heartache. The kid was
> > > wrong and paid
> > > > > > > > > the highest of consequences for his own actions. What did you
> > > expect the
> > > > > > > > >agents
> > > > > > > > > to do? What would you do if criminals threw a barrage of rocks
> > > at you? Say
> > > > > > > > > "Please don't do that."?
>
> > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 4:28:49 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > > Not while they are on Mexican soil.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 25, 9:22 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > [ Attached Message
> > > > > > > > > >]From:claguerra...@aol.comTo:Rhomp2...@earthlink.netDate:Fri,
> > > 25 Jun 2010
> > > > > > > > > >18:41:02 -0400 (EDT)Local:Fri, Jun 25 2010 5:41
> > > pmSubject:well, looky here!
>
> > > > > > > > > > Teen Shot by Border Patrol Had Smuggling Arrests By THE
> > > ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> > > > > > > > > > Filed at 6:20 p.m. ET
> > > > > > > > > > EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- Federal records show that a
> > > 15-year-old Mexican boy
> > > > > > > > > >shot and killed by U.S. Border Patrol agents was among El
> > > Paso's most wanted
> > > > > > > > > >juvenile smugglers.
> > > > > > > > > > According to federal arrest records reviewed by The
> > > Associated Press,
> > > > > > > > Sergio
> > > > > > > > > >Adrian Hernandez Huereka had been arrested at least four times
> > > since 2008
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >twice in the same week in February 2009.
> > > > > > > > > > A Border Patrol agent shot and killed the teen on June 7
> > > while trying to
> > > > > > > > > > arrest illegal immigrants crossing the muddy bed of the Rio
> > > Grande. Some
> > > > > > > > > >witnesses said a group of people on the Mexican side were
> > > throwing rocks at
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >agents. Agents are permitted to use lethal force against rock
> > > throwers.
>
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Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
That's it.
On Jun 27, 1:32 am, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> that too
> ---
> It's that all you got old man from Texas???
>
> On 27 Juni, 08:25, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > that too
>
> > On Jun 27, 1:23 am, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > If you you shoot live bullets into Mexico, that's an act of war. Let
> > > the rest of us just enjoy old J.Cash
>
> > > On 27 Juni, 08:10, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Oh, Good old Johnny.
>
> > > > On Jun 27, 12:56 am, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > The border control guard is the perp.
> > > > > -----
> > > > > So be it. I was talking about Johnny Cash.
>
> > > > > On 27 Juni, 07:33, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The border control guard is the perp.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 26, 11:20 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > In this case is not about the victim but about the perp.
>
> > > > > > > On 27 Juni, 06:13, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > shot a man, just to watch him die
> > > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > > in this case, a 14 year old kid.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 10:09 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgja26eNeY
>
> > > > > > > > > On 27 Juni, 05:02, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Get in the car, and drive my prisoners with me out of the area. I
> > > > > > > > > > would not shoot at a kid throwing rocks.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 9:13 pm, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Euwe,
> > > > > > > > > > > You didn't answer my question. What would YOU have done if criminals were
> > > > > > > > > > > throwing a barrage of rocks at YOU?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 8:46:44 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely - kids have gotten a free ride long enough - it's time to
> > > > > > > > > > > start lowering the age of outrage - kill them in the womb!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 12:27 am, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why not? If a "most wanted juvenile smuggler" with a record starting at age
> > > > > > > > > > > 13
> > > > > > > > > > > > is throwing rocks from 30-40 feet away it could do a hell of a lot of damage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > They weren't wiffle rocks! The kid, and others, was determined to hurt the
> > > > > > > > > > > > Border Patrol Agents. He had no respect for laws or life. Now, the choir boy
> > > > > > > > > > > > is dead. He will smuggle no more. He should have been at home studying. His
> > > > > > > > > > > > parents are now paying the price for neglect and disrespect for America. They
> > > > > > > > > > > > should have given him a "time out" after his first arrest.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I lost two sons to cancer. I know the heartache. The kid was wrong and paid
> > > > > > > > > > > > the highest of consequences for his own actions. What did you expect the
> > > > > > > > > > > >agents
> > > > > > > > > > > > to do? What would you do if criminals threw a barrage of rocks at you? Say
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Please don't do that."?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 4:28:49 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not while they are on Mexican soil.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 25, 9:22 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Attached Message
> > > > > > > > > > > > >]From:claguerra...@aol.comTo:Rhomp2...@earthlink.netDate:Fri, 25 Jun 2010
> > > > > > > > > > > > >18:41:02 -0400 (EDT)Local:Fri, Jun 25 2010 5:41 pmSubject:well, looky here!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Teen Shot by Border Patrol Had Smuggling Arrests By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Filed at 6:20 p.m. ET
> > > > > > > > > > > > > EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- Federal records show that a 15-year-old Mexican boy
> > > > > > > > > > > > >shot and killed by U.S. Border Patrol agents was among El Paso's most wanted
> > > > > > > > > > > > >juvenile smugglers.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > According to federal arrest records reviewed by The Associated Press,
> > > > > > > > > > > Sergio
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Adrian Hernandez Huereka had been arrested at least four times since 2008
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > >twice in the same week in February 2009.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A Border Patrol agent shot and killed the teen on June 7 while trying to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > arrest illegal immigrants crossing the muddy bed of the Rio Grande. Some
> > > > > > > > > > > > >witnesses said a group of people on the Mexican side were throwing rocks at
> > > > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >agents. Agents are permitted to use lethal force against rock throwers.
>
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Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
The hands held rocks and the arms in the air were throwing them. The choir boy is dead. He won't be arrested again. He won't be smuggling again. He won't be attacking again. Let him tell it to his God.
From: euwe <machgielis@gmail.com>
To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 11:10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
A man who shoots a kid across the border with his hands in the air is
guilty of murder.
On Jun 27, 12:49 am, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could you please fully explain the complete line of thought behind that ??
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The border control guard is the perp.
>
> > On Jun 26, 11:20 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > In this case is not about the victim but about the perp.
>
> > > On 27 Juni, 06:13, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > shot a man, just to watch him die
> > > > ----------
> > > > in this case, a 14 year old kid.
>
> > > > On Jun 26, 10:09 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgja26eNeY
>
> > > > > On 27 Juni, 05:02, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Get in the car, and drive my prisoners with me out of the area. I
> > > > > > would not shoot at a kid throwing rocks.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 26, 9:13 pm, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Euwe,
> > > > > > > You didn't answer my question. What would YOU have done if
> > criminals were
> > > > > > > throwing a barrage of rocks at YOU?
>
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 8:46:44 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > Absolutely - kids have gotten a free ride long enough - it's time
> > to
> > > > > > > start lowering the age of outrage - kill them in the womb!
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 26, 12:27 am, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Why not? If a "most wanted juvenile smuggler" with a record
> > starting at age
> > > > > > > 13
> > > > > > > > is throwing rocks from 30-40 feet away it could do a hell of a
> > lot of damage.
> > > > > > > > They weren't wiffle rocks! The kid, and others, was
> > determined to hurt the
> > > > > > > > Border Patrol Agents. He had no respect for laws or life.
> > Now, the choir boy
> > > > > > > > is dead. He will smuggle no more. He should have been at home
> > studying. His
> > > > > > > > parents are now paying the price for neglect and disrespect for
> > America. They
> > > > > > > > should have given him a "time out" after his first arrest.
>
> > > > > > > > I lost two sons to cancer. I know the heartache. The kid was
> > wrong and paid
> > > > > > > > the highest of consequences for his own actions. What did you
> > expect the
> > > > > > > >agents
> > > > > > > > to do? What would you do if criminals threw a barrage of rocks
> > at you? Say
> > > > > > > > "Please don't do that."?
>
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 4:28:49 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > Not while they are on Mexican soil.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 25, 9:22 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > [ Attached Message
> > > > > > > > >]From:claguerra...@aol.comTo:Rhomp2...@earthlink.netDate:Fri,
> > 25 Jun 2010
> > > > > > > > >18:41:02 -0400 (EDT)Local:Fri, Jun 25 2010 5:41
> > pmSubject:well, looky here!
>
> > > > > > > > > Teen Shot by Border Patrol Had Smuggling Arrests By THE
> > ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> > > > > > > > > Filed at 6:20 p.m. ET
> > > > > > > > > EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- Federal records show that a
> > 15-year-old Mexican boy
> > > > > > > > >shot and killed by U.S. Border Patrol agents was among El
> > Paso's most wanted
> > > > > > > > >juvenile smugglers.
> > > > > > > > > According to federal arrest records reviewed by The
> > Associated Press,
> > > > > > > Sergio
> > > > > > > > >Adrian Hernandez Huereka had been arrested at least four times
> > since 2008
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >twice in the same week in February 2009.
> > > > > > > > > A Border Patrol agent shot and killed the teen on June 7
> > while trying to
> > > > > > > > > arrest illegal immigrants crossing the muddy bed of the Rio
> > Grande. Some
> > > > > > > > >witnesses said a group of people on the Mexican side were
> > throwing rocks at
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >agents. Agents are permitted to use lethal force against rock
> > throwers.
>
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