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Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Re: The New York Times' Lie and Truths about Iran

the goal here is to portray the American government as insistent on
attacking Iran, and that whole "Blood For Oil" theory that both love
so
much......Needless to say, that Richman's and Raimondo's very
existence
depend upon petroelum products,
---
not the issue.

an Iranian threat toward israel is not an American concern.
O has made it clear to israel that we will not fight their war with
the muzzies.
Romney, otoh, has told them that we will. He's going to look pretty
stupid when only mormons and zionists back him up.

On Sep 17, 5:43 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Once again, the likes of Sheldon Richman and Justin Raimondo (through
> Antiwar.com, which is where Richman chooses to obtain his "facts" from)
> try to pervert the truth. I assume, (although it's hard to understand
> especially Raimondo's goal in anything....In Raimondo's case, he's just a
> goofy crackpot who like to hear himself talk and see himself in print) that
> the goal here is to portray the American government as insistent on
> attacking Iran, and that whole "Blood For Oil" theory that both love so
> much......Needless to say, that Richman's and Raimondo's very existence
> depend upon petroelum products, from the food that they inhale to the
> nasty drawers on their backsides.
>
> Here are but just a few of the examples of:
> "Iranian leader[s] threaten[ing] Israel with annihilation"
>
> (Ahmadinejad: "Death to Israel")
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo
>
> Washington Post: The facts revolving around Ahmadinejad's purported
> statement of "Wipe Israel Off the Map"....Note the discussion of the
> Iranian billboards throughout the Nation, stating that Israel should be
> "wiped off the map")
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-ahmadinejad...
>
> Germany's Der Spiegal News: Summer of 2007, Ahmadinejad: *"the ocean of
> nations of the region will get angry and will cut the root of the Zionist
> regime from its stem."*
>
> There are many, many more examples....All one has to do is
> Google, " Ahmadinejad + Israel"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:38 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > Friday, September 14, 2012
> > *The New York Times' Lie and Truths about Iran
> > *Posted by Sheldon Richman
>
> > Today's *New York Times *report "Obama Rebuffs Netanyahu on Setting
> > Limits on Iran's Nuclear Program"<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/world/middleeast/obama-rebuffs-neta...>contains one outright lie and a couple of true statements that don't get
> > nearly enough attention in the media.
>
> > The lie: Israeli officials, however, say this guarantee [that the Obama
> > administration will prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon] may not be
> > enough for Israel, which Iranian leaders have repeatedly threatened with
> > annihilation.
>
> > No Iranian leader has threatened Israel with annihilation.<http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025>
>
> > The truths that require more attention (emphasis added): Basing a
> > military judgment on Iran's stockpile of medium-enriched uranium could be
> > tricky, however, because while the overall amount of this material has
> > increased, the amount that can be readily used to fuel a bomb has declined<http://original.antiwar.com/porter/2012/09/01/iaea-report-shows-iran-...>since Iran converted some of it into plates to be used in a research
> > reactor in Tehran. . . .
> > Administration officials contend that the United States will still be able
> > to detect, and prevent, Iran from passing that point. Nor does the
> > administration have evidence that Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali
> > Khamenei, has even made a decision to build a bomb.
>
> >http://sheldonfreeassociation.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-new-york-times...
>
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Re: israeli extremists in America

Israel is an ally of the United States, so yes, Israel's existence is very much an American concern,

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:

If you think, for one moment, that we are going to somehow effect or
change
the existence of Israel, you are sadly mistaken.

---
the existence of israel is not an American concern

On Sep 17, 2:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you think, for one moment, that we are going to somehow effect or change
> the existence of Israel, you are sadly mistaken.
>
> I believe that our foreign policy, and our Israeli policy should insist on
> the original UN mandate, that there also be a Palestinian State. That is
> hard to accomplish, when most of the Arabs will not acknowledge Israel's
> right to existence.
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:54 PM, plainolamerican

> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > So what is the point here?
> > ---
> > just some insight into those you are protecting.
>
> > On Sep 17, 2:52 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Who is Max Bluenthal?
>
> > > So what is the point here? That there are some ignorant, misinformed
> > > Jews?
>
> > > I don't get it.
>
> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:44 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfxJ3q62mbI&feature=related
>
> > > > On Sep 17, 2:31 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbIHsvouXXY&feature=related
>
> > > > > On Sep 17, 2:29 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > no ... these are zionists who are something other than American.
> > > > > > like these:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWlrUcb8l4o&feature=related
>
> > > > > > know the enemy
>
> > > > > > On Sep 17, 2:24 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > These are all Plain Ol's peeps!
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:24 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3JkLMRdSI&feature=related
>
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Re: israeli extremists in America

If you think, for one moment, that we are going to somehow effect or
change
the existence of Israel, you are sadly mistaken.
---
the existence of israel is not an American concern

On Sep 17, 2:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you think, for one moment, that we are going to somehow effect or change
> the existence of Israel, you are sadly mistaken.
>
> I believe that our foreign policy, and our Israeli policy should insist on
> the original UN mandate, that there also be a Palestinian State. That is
> hard to accomplish, when most of the Arabs will not acknowledge Israel's
> right to existence.
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:54 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > So what is the point here?
> > ---
> > just some insight into those you are protecting.
>
> > On Sep 17, 2:52 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Who is Max Bluenthal?
>
> > > So what is the point here? That there are some ignorant, misinformed
> > > Jews?
>
> > > I don't get it.
>
> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:44 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfxJ3q62mbI&feature=related
>
> > > > On Sep 17, 2:31 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbIHsvouXXY&feature=related
>
> > > > > On Sep 17, 2:29 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > no ... these are zionists who are something other than American.
> > > > > > like these:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWlrUcb8l4o&feature=related
>
> > > > > > know the enemy
>
> > > > > > On Sep 17, 2:24 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > These are all Plain Ol's peeps!
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:24 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3JkLMRdSI&feature=related
>
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Re: Imam at largest US mosque calls on U.S. to enforce sharia laws against free speech

Back in November 2010, Oklahoma voters utilized a ballot initiative in
an attempt to ban courts in their state from considering and applying
Islamic law. Though such action might seem absurd, 70% of Oklahoma's
voted in its favor. Not surprisingly, Muslim groups wasted no time in
challenging the state's constitutional amendment in court. After a
federal judge issued an injunction against the amendment, state
officials filed an appeal with the 10th Circuit.

Although the Oklahoma law is getting much publicity, a number of other
states have actually considered similar measures. In a recent example,
a Texas state representative proposed an amendment to his state's
constitution that would prevent courts from applying any "religious or
cultural law." (Click here for the story, and here for the text of the
amendment.) The language of this bill would undoubtedly include Jewish
law.

If passed, the Texas law would prevent courts from enforcing a
provision in a will or trust that refers to Jewish law, a shtar heter
iska (a document that ensures compliance with the Torah laws of
usury), or a ketubah (a document that delineates a husband's
obligations to his wife in accordance with halacha). A number of
courts nationwide have in fact ruled on such issues. See, e.g., Gordon
v. Gordon, 332 Mass. 197 (1955) (analyzing a will that disinherited
children marrying outside of the Jewish faith); Bollag v. Dresdner,
495 N.Y.S.2d 560 (N.Y. City Civ. Ct. 1985) (refusing to award interest
because the parties executed a heter iska); Minkin v. Minkin, 180 N.J.
Super. 260 (1981) (specifically enforcing the terms of a ketuba). For
more examples of American courts citing Jewish law as authority, see
Daniel G. Ashburn, Appealing to a Higher Authority?: Jewish Law in
American Judicial Opinions, 71 U. Det. Mercy L. Rev. 295 (1994).

Thus, a law prohibiting courts from applying religious law would
impair the legal rights of observant Jews and other religious groups.
Can Texas do that? The outcome of the Oklahoma case will likely answer
this question, and so far, it looks like such laws will be viewed as
unconstitutional.

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via Jihad Watch. David Wood explains: Hassan al-Qazwini is the Imam at the Islamic Center of America, the country's largest mosque. He is calling on the U.S. government to respond to criticism of Muhammad with more than words. But the only way the U.S. government can issue more than a mere verbal response to criticism [...]