And all Mitt has to say is that his church for over 20 years had a
moslim membership and "God Damn America" was often preached there.
On Jun 20, 1:05 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> if O goes after the xian vote decrying the absurdity of mormonism?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=6QSvH-69GRA
>
> even more explicithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=VEUih1Udlv8
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Re: The Many, The Gay, The New Marines to Celebrate Gay Pride Month
they want the same rights ... not more rights
EXACTLY what "right" don't they have that I do ?? This is one question no one on the pro Gay side has ever been able to answer...
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EXACTLY what "right" don't they have that I do ?? This is one question no one on the pro Gay side has ever been able to answer...
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, you are---
very
much mistaken.
did I imply that you are?
---
I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks like you
get
your drawers all up in a wad over Christians,
accusation noted and completely false
---
and that we are pretty much
the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about much; we
don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the secularists
like
yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and yet, we
continue
to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith".
you are more than welcome to keep your faith
---
I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and
whatever it
is that they do.
so, you don't believe that homosexuality is sinful like most other
christians, jews, and muzzies?
---
It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their
lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I don't
know. I
do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring for more
rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their behavior;
just
like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much.
they want the same rights ... not more rights
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
On Jun 20, 10:19 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Plain Ol,
>
> If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, you are very
> much mistaken. I am a Christian, and have not a problem admitting to
> that, or being ashamed of my, "Faith", (and I emphasize that "Faith" is
> the operative word there). I'm not, "Fishing For Men"; I'm not out on the
> street corner handing out leaflets, nor do I go to folks houses on Saturday
> mornings trying to get them to hear, "The Word".
>
> I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks like you get
> your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, and that we are pretty much
> the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about much; we
> don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the secularists like
> yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and yet, we continue
> to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith".
>
> I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and whatever it
> is that they do. It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their
> lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I don't know. I
> do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring for more
> rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their behavior; just
> like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much.
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, plainolamerican
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of this whole
> > fraud.
> > ---
> > you're right ... the religious in the military need to be muzzled like
> > rabid dogs.
>
> > the military is going to say enough
> > ---
> > and American will tell them to stfu or get out.
>
> > DADT is the best that the religious in the military can hope for.
>
> > On Jun 20, 1:50 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of this whole
> > > fraud. The first Gay Pride parade, where folks are parading around with
> > > their uniforms all "gussied" up, and/or there will be some "Gay Drama"
> > > from the likes of someone like Lil'TommyTomTomForNews, shit will
> > literally
> > > hit the fan, and the military is going to say enough.
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > only DADT stopped the enforcement of these policies.
> > > > ---
> > > > as it should
>
> > > > The tide
> > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start.
> > > > ----
> > > > warmongers are hardly concerned about gay rights
>
> > > > On Jun 19, 2:11 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Actually, Plainol... all the draconian laws that persecuted and
> > > > > prosecuted Gays before DADT was put in place are now back on the
> > > > > books... only DADT stopped the enforcement of these policies. The
> > tide
> > > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start.
>
> > > > > On Jun 19, 9:05 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > the US military, unlike the religious, does not persecute
> > homosexuals.
>
> > > > > > the grip that xians once had on America is gone ... free at last!
>
> > > > > > On Jun 19, 10:02 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Will they be celebrating "Ramitdown" next?
>
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > New post on *ACGR's "News with Attitude"*
> > > > > > > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> The Many, The
> > Gay,
> > > > The New
> > > > > > > Marines to Celebrate Gay Pride
> > > > > > > Month<http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/05-972/>by
> > > > > > > Harold <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/>
>
> > > > > > > da Tagliare, Godfather Politics 6/19/2012 Source ..... For years,
> > > > I've
> > > > > > > heard the ads for the US Marine Corps that said, 'The Few, the
> > > > Proud, the
> > > > > > > Marines.' During the same time, the US Army ran recruiting ads
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > slogan, 'To be the best you can be.' I recall when I spoke to
> > > > military
> > > > > > > recruiters years [...]
>
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What is Romney going to do
if O goes after the xian vote decrying the absurdity of mormonism?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=6QSvH-69GRA
even more explicit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=VEUih1Udlv8
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Re: A Biblical Threat to National Security
I've yet to see any of these "recent" Christians forcing their
religious
beliefs upon the rest of Americans
---
the persecution of muslims and homosexuals is promoted to Americans by
christians.
'recent' enough for you?
On Jun 20, 10:27 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've yet to see any of these "recent" Christians forcing their religious
> beliefs upon the rest of Americans.....Please, by all means, give us somem
> examples!
>
> (And actually, I can think of a couple; but not anything in the last
> seventy-five or one hundred years)
>
> Michael, I don't even understand what your last missive means.......
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:41 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > secularists once again forcing their
> > political correctness upon the rest of Americans.
> > ---
> > as opposed to christians forcing their religious beliefs upon the rest
> > of Americans
>
> > On Jun 20, 5:33 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I wonder if the United States Armed Services "authorized" a Q'uoran, or
> > > any other religious works?
>
> > > I note that since this bru-ha-ha started, the military has since
> > > discontinued the "authorization" of the use of the military symbols on
> > the
> > > Holman Bible.
>
> > > Much ado about nothing, and a bunch of secularists once again forcing
> > their
> > > political correctness upon the rest of Americans.
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:22 PM, plainolamerican <
> > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > some 33 percent of chaplains are now evangelical Christians
> > > > ---
> > > > and 100 percent of USSC justices are jews and catholics.
>
> > > > tit for tat among the myth believers who have forgotten that the USA
> > > > is a secular nation
>
> > > > On Jun 19, 3:11 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > A Biblical Threat to National SecuritybyKelley B. Vlahos, June 19,
> > 2012
> > > > > Can a Bible be a "threat to national security"?
> > > > > For years, the government has employed the risk of "national
> > security"
> > > > excuse to infringe on a wide range of freedoms like the right to pass
> > > > through an airport security checkpoint unmolested, or read library
> > books
> > > > without Big Brother peeking over your shoulder.Michael L. "Mikey"
> > > > Weinsteinis trying to prove that there is more than one way to put the
> > > > country at risk, and he's found it in a heretofore unlikely place: the
> > > > Bible.
> > > > > Well, the Holman Bible. To be more exact, a version of the Bible
> > that,
> > > > for reasons still undetermined, was authorized with the trademarked
> > > > official insignia of the U.S. Armed Forces emblazoned on the front
> > cover.
> > > > There isThe Soldier's Biblewith the Army's seal,The Marine's Biblewith
> > the
> > > > Marine Corps seal,The Sailor's BibleandThe Airman's Bible, both with
> > their
> > > > respective insignia. The books have been sold for nearly six years
> > > > throughout Christian bookstores, commissaries and PXs on U.S. military
> > > > installations and are still available on
> > Christianbook.com,Amazon.comand
> > > > Barnes & Noble.
> > > > > It's not theKing James Versionthatthe Gideonsleave behind in hotel
> > rooms
> > > > drawers. The Holman Bible was commissioned and published by LifeWay
> > > > Christian Resources, a subsidiary of theSouthern Baptist Convention,
> > the
> > > > largest Baptist denomination in the world, in 2003.
> > > > > In a 1999press releaseannouncing the edition's progress, Broadman &
> > > > Holman Publishers called the new version "a fresh, precise translation
> > of
> > > > the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek of the Old and New Testaments." LifeWay
> > > > President James T. Draper Jr. weighed in, saying there was a "serious
> > need
> > > > for a 21st-century Bible translation in American English that combines
> > > > accuracy and readability," adding, "the Holman Christian Standard
> > Bible is
> > > > an accurate, literal rendering with a smoothness and readability that
> > > > invites memorization, reading aloud and dedicated study."
> > > > > The Holman Bible, or HCSB, has been popular with evangelicals for its
> > > > references and study tools. Someone convinced each branch of the
> > service
> > > > they'd be perfect for the military, too. So the HCSB became the
> > "official"
> > > > Bible of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines in 2004, complete with
> > > > reader-friendly text and custom "designed to meet the specific needs of
> > > > those who serve in the most difficult of situations," according to the
> > > > publishers.
> > > > > In other words, aside from the text, the books are filled with
> > > > "devotionals" and "inspirational essays" tailored to each branch of
> > > > service. I was unable to get my hands on a copy by press time, but
> > Amazon's
> > > > "peek" inside the book and several positive reader reviews confirm
> > some of
> > > > the contents, revealing what could only be described as a guileless
> > > > conflation of both Christian and American military iconography. War and
> > > > service as religious devotion.
> > > > > In addition to the Pledge of Allegiance and the first and fourth
> > verses
> > > > of the Star Spangled Banner, there are excerpts from one of George W.
> > Bush
> > > > inaugural addresses and the Republican president's remarks at a
> > National
> > > > Prayer Breakfast.Gen. George S. Patton's famous Christmas prayer
> > cardfrom
> > > > the field of battle 1944 is also included, as is"George Washington's
> > > > Prayer,"which has been widely circulated (and debunked) as proof of
> > > > America's Christian paternity.
> > > > > These Bibles also feature "testimonials and encouragement from
> > > > theOfficers' Christian Fellowship," which has approximately 15,000
> > members
> > > > across the military and whose primary purpose is "to glorify God by
> > uniting
> > > > Christian officers for biblical fellowship and outreach, equipping and
> > > > encouraging them to minister effectively in the military society." In
> > other
> > > > words they proselytize within the officer corps as part of an
> > evangelical
> > > > "parachurch" within the military.
> > > > > A largely unfettered one, apparently, as one watches Pentagon
> > officers
> > > > commenting freely on camera and in uniform for this Bush-era
> > > > promotionalvideofor Christian Embassy, another federal government-wide
> > > > "fellowship" with similar missionary goals.
> > > > > One officer, Air Force Maj. Gen. Jack Catton, who said he worked on
> > the
> > > > Joint Staff at the Pentagon, described himself as "an old fashioned
> > > > American and my first priority is my faith in God." Pointing to his
> > meeting
> > > > with other officers under the auspices of Christian Embassy, he said,
> > "I
> > > > think it's a huge impact because you have many men and women who are
> > > > seeking God's counsel and wisdom as we advise the Secretary of
> > Defense."
> > > > > Then U.S. Brigadier Gen. Bob Caslan (currently promoted to lieutenant
> > > > general as the commanding general at the U.S. Army's prestigious
> > Combined
> > > > Arms Center at Ft. Leavenworth, Kan.) went so far as to say he sees the
> > > > "flag officer fellowship groups … hold me accountable."
> > > > > "We are the aroma of Jesus Christ," he added.
> > > > > Something smells, all right, said Weinstein, who heads theMilitary
> > > > Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF). The roles of the officers in the
> > video
> > > > werelater deemed improperafter MRFF demanded an investigation in 2007.
> > As
> > > > for the Bibles, Weinstein said he received some 2,000 complaints about
> > them
> > > > from service members over the last year. Weinstein, a former Air Force
> > > > Judge Advocate (JAG) whose 2005 charges against the Air Force Academy
> > in
> > > > Colorado led to an investigation thatofficially found religious
> > > > "insensitivity"against non- fundamentalists there, has gone on to
> > expose a
> > > > much wider climate of"top-down, invasive evangelicalism"at the
> > institution
> > > > and throughout the military as a whole.
> > > > > "We're fighting a
>
> > Fundamentalist-Christian-Parachurch-Military-Corporate-Proselytizing-Complex,"
> > > > Weinstein said told Antiwar.com last week, "and we have been fighting
> > this
> > > > for some time." MRFF just posted a video montage, which could easily be
> > > > called the military evangelicals' greatest hits,here.
> > > > > He said aside from "prostituting" the military insignia, the
> > military's
> > > > endorsement of the Bibles violated federal separation of church and
> > state,
> > > > and continue to sanction an insidious culture of radical
> > evangelicalism and
> > > > discrimination throughout the services (as a Jew, Weinstein said he
> > felt
> > > > the sting of prejudice when he attended the Air Force academy in the
> > late
> > > > 1970s; his sons had it even worse, he claims, prompting his first
> > formal
> > > > complaint seven years ago).
> > > > > Since then, "(MRFF) has had 28,000 clients and a hundred more each
> > > > month," said Weinstein, rejecting claims by his critics that they are
> > all
> > > > atheist. He insists that 96 percent of his clients are Christians
> > (Catholic
> > > > and Mainline Protestant) and that his is not a religious crusade. On
> > the
> > > > other hand,some 33 percent of chaplains are now evangelical
> > > > Christians(Weinstein's MRFF places that number at 84 percent), while
> > only 3
> > > > percent of service members describe themselves as such.
> > > > > "They are spiritually raping the U.S. Constitution, the American
> > people
> > > > and the men and women who are fighting for us," said Weinstein, who
> > never,
> > > > ever minces words.
> > > > > MRFF's lawyers senta formal letterto Secretary of Defense Leon
> > Panetta's
> > > > office in January. In it, MRFF charged that authorizing LifeWay to
> > print
> > > > its Bibles with the service insignia "is in violation of the
> > Establishment
> > > > Clause of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution … and
> > > > several regulations," and that the authority should be withdrawn
> > > > immediately or
>
> ...
>
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religious
beliefs upon the rest of Americans
---
the persecution of muslims and homosexuals is promoted to Americans by
christians.
'recent' enough for you?
On Jun 20, 10:27 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've yet to see any of these "recent" Christians forcing their religious
> beliefs upon the rest of Americans.....Please, by all means, give us somem
> examples!
>
> (And actually, I can think of a couple; but not anything in the last
> seventy-five or one hundred years)
>
> Michael, I don't even understand what your last missive means.......
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:41 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > secularists once again forcing their
> > political correctness upon the rest of Americans.
> > ---
> > as opposed to christians forcing their religious beliefs upon the rest
> > of Americans
>
> > On Jun 20, 5:33 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I wonder if the United States Armed Services "authorized" a Q'uoran, or
> > > any other religious works?
>
> > > I note that since this bru-ha-ha started, the military has since
> > > discontinued the "authorization" of the use of the military symbols on
> > the
> > > Holman Bible.
>
> > > Much ado about nothing, and a bunch of secularists once again forcing
> > their
> > > political correctness upon the rest of Americans.
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:22 PM, plainolamerican <
> > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > some 33 percent of chaplains are now evangelical Christians
> > > > ---
> > > > and 100 percent of USSC justices are jews and catholics.
>
> > > > tit for tat among the myth believers who have forgotten that the USA
> > > > is a secular nation
>
> > > > On Jun 19, 3:11 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > A Biblical Threat to National SecuritybyKelley B. Vlahos, June 19,
> > 2012
> > > > > Can a Bible be a "threat to national security"?
> > > > > For years, the government has employed the risk of "national
> > security"
> > > > excuse to infringe on a wide range of freedoms like the right to pass
> > > > through an airport security checkpoint unmolested, or read library
> > books
> > > > without Big Brother peeking over your shoulder.Michael L. "Mikey"
> > > > Weinsteinis trying to prove that there is more than one way to put the
> > > > country at risk, and he's found it in a heretofore unlikely place: the
> > > > Bible.
> > > > > Well, the Holman Bible. To be more exact, a version of the Bible
> > that,
> > > > for reasons still undetermined, was authorized with the trademarked
> > > > official insignia of the U.S. Armed Forces emblazoned on the front
> > cover.
> > > > There isThe Soldier's Biblewith the Army's seal,The Marine's Biblewith
> > the
> > > > Marine Corps seal,The Sailor's BibleandThe Airman's Bible, both with
> > their
> > > > respective insignia. The books have been sold for nearly six years
> > > > throughout Christian bookstores, commissaries and PXs on U.S. military
> > > > installations and are still available on
> > Christianbook.com,Amazon.comand
> > > > Barnes & Noble.
> > > > > It's not theKing James Versionthatthe Gideonsleave behind in hotel
> > rooms
> > > > drawers. The Holman Bible was commissioned and published by LifeWay
> > > > Christian Resources, a subsidiary of theSouthern Baptist Convention,
> > the
> > > > largest Baptist denomination in the world, in 2003.
> > > > > In a 1999press releaseannouncing the edition's progress, Broadman &
> > > > Holman Publishers called the new version "a fresh, precise translation
> > of
> > > > the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek of the Old and New Testaments." LifeWay
> > > > President James T. Draper Jr. weighed in, saying there was a "serious
> > need
> > > > for a 21st-century Bible translation in American English that combines
> > > > accuracy and readability," adding, "the Holman Christian Standard
> > Bible is
> > > > an accurate, literal rendering with a smoothness and readability that
> > > > invites memorization, reading aloud and dedicated study."
> > > > > The Holman Bible, or HCSB, has been popular with evangelicals for its
> > > > references and study tools. Someone convinced each branch of the
> > service
> > > > they'd be perfect for the military, too. So the HCSB became the
> > "official"
> > > > Bible of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines in 2004, complete with
> > > > reader-friendly text and custom "designed to meet the specific needs of
> > > > those who serve in the most difficult of situations," according to the
> > > > publishers.
> > > > > In other words, aside from the text, the books are filled with
> > > > "devotionals" and "inspirational essays" tailored to each branch of
> > > > service. I was unable to get my hands on a copy by press time, but
> > Amazon's
> > > > "peek" inside the book and several positive reader reviews confirm
> > some of
> > > > the contents, revealing what could only be described as a guileless
> > > > conflation of both Christian and American military iconography. War and
> > > > service as religious devotion.
> > > > > In addition to the Pledge of Allegiance and the first and fourth
> > verses
> > > > of the Star Spangled Banner, there are excerpts from one of George W.
> > Bush
> > > > inaugural addresses and the Republican president's remarks at a
> > National
> > > > Prayer Breakfast.Gen. George S. Patton's famous Christmas prayer
> > cardfrom
> > > > the field of battle 1944 is also included, as is"George Washington's
> > > > Prayer,"which has been widely circulated (and debunked) as proof of
> > > > America's Christian paternity.
> > > > > These Bibles also feature "testimonials and encouragement from
> > > > theOfficers' Christian Fellowship," which has approximately 15,000
> > members
> > > > across the military and whose primary purpose is "to glorify God by
> > uniting
> > > > Christian officers for biblical fellowship and outreach, equipping and
> > > > encouraging them to minister effectively in the military society." In
> > other
> > > > words they proselytize within the officer corps as part of an
> > evangelical
> > > > "parachurch" within the military.
> > > > > A largely unfettered one, apparently, as one watches Pentagon
> > officers
> > > > commenting freely on camera and in uniform for this Bush-era
> > > > promotionalvideofor Christian Embassy, another federal government-wide
> > > > "fellowship" with similar missionary goals.
> > > > > One officer, Air Force Maj. Gen. Jack Catton, who said he worked on
> > the
> > > > Joint Staff at the Pentagon, described himself as "an old fashioned
> > > > American and my first priority is my faith in God." Pointing to his
> > meeting
> > > > with other officers under the auspices of Christian Embassy, he said,
> > "I
> > > > think it's a huge impact because you have many men and women who are
> > > > seeking God's counsel and wisdom as we advise the Secretary of
> > Defense."
> > > > > Then U.S. Brigadier Gen. Bob Caslan (currently promoted to lieutenant
> > > > general as the commanding general at the U.S. Army's prestigious
> > Combined
> > > > Arms Center at Ft. Leavenworth, Kan.) went so far as to say he sees the
> > > > "flag officer fellowship groups … hold me accountable."
> > > > > "We are the aroma of Jesus Christ," he added.
> > > > > Something smells, all right, said Weinstein, who heads theMilitary
> > > > Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF). The roles of the officers in the
> > video
> > > > werelater deemed improperafter MRFF demanded an investigation in 2007.
> > As
> > > > for the Bibles, Weinstein said he received some 2,000 complaints about
> > them
> > > > from service members over the last year. Weinstein, a former Air Force
> > > > Judge Advocate (JAG) whose 2005 charges against the Air Force Academy
> > in
> > > > Colorado led to an investigation thatofficially found religious
> > > > "insensitivity"against non- fundamentalists there, has gone on to
> > expose a
> > > > much wider climate of"top-down, invasive evangelicalism"at the
> > institution
> > > > and throughout the military as a whole.
> > > > > "We're fighting a
>
> > Fundamentalist-Christian-Parachurch-Military-Corporate-Proselytizing-Complex,"
> > > > Weinstein said told Antiwar.com last week, "and we have been fighting
> > this
> > > > for some time." MRFF just posted a video montage, which could easily be
> > > > called the military evangelicals' greatest hits,here.
> > > > > He said aside from "prostituting" the military insignia, the
> > military's
> > > > endorsement of the Bibles violated federal separation of church and
> > state,
> > > > and continue to sanction an insidious culture of radical
> > evangelicalism and
> > > > discrimination throughout the services (as a Jew, Weinstein said he
> > felt
> > > > the sting of prejudice when he attended the Air Force academy in the
> > late
> > > > 1970s; his sons had it even worse, he claims, prompting his first
> > formal
> > > > complaint seven years ago).
> > > > > Since then, "(MRFF) has had 28,000 clients and a hundred more each
> > > > month," said Weinstein, rejecting claims by his critics that they are
> > all
> > > > atheist. He insists that 96 percent of his clients are Christians
> > (Catholic
> > > > and Mainline Protestant) and that his is not a religious crusade. On
> > the
> > > > other hand,some 33 percent of chaplains are now evangelical
> > > > Christians(Weinstein's MRFF places that number at 84 percent), while
> > only 3
> > > > percent of service members describe themselves as such.
> > > > > "They are spiritually raping the U.S. Constitution, the American
> > people
> > > > and the men and women who are fighting for us," said Weinstein, who
> > never,
> > > > ever minces words.
> > > > > MRFF's lawyers senta formal letterto Secretary of Defense Leon
> > Panetta's
> > > > office in January. In it, MRFF charged that authorizing LifeWay to
> > > > its Bibles with the service insignia "is in violation of the
> > Establishment
> > > > Clause of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution … and
> > > > several regulations," and that the authority should be withdrawn
> > > > immediately or
>
> ...
>
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Re: The Many, The Gay, The New Marines to Celebrate Gay Pride Month
If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, you are
very
much mistaken.
---
did I imply that you are?
I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks like you
get
your drawers all up in a wad over Christians,
---
accusation noted and completely false
and that we are pretty much
the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about much; we
don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the secularists
like
yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and yet, we
continue
to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith".
---
you are more than welcome to keep your faith
I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and
whatever it
is that they do.
---
so, you don't believe that homosexuality is sinful like most other
christians, jews, and muzzies?
It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their
lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I don't
know. I
do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring for more
rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their behavior;
just
like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much.
---
they want the same rights ... not more rights
On Jun 20, 10:19 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Plain Ol,
>
> If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, you are very
> much mistaken. I am a Christian, and have not a problem admitting to
> that, or being ashamed of my, "Faith", (and I emphasize that "Faith" is
> the operative word there). I'm not, "Fishing For Men"; I'm not out on the
> street corner handing out leaflets, nor do I go to folks houses on Saturday
> mornings trying to get them to hear, "The Word".
>
> I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks like you get
> your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, and that we are pretty much
> the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about much; we
> don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the secularists like
> yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and yet, we continue
> to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith".
>
> I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and whatever it
> is that they do. It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their
> lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I don't know. I
> do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring for more
> rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their behavior; just
> like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much.
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of this whole
> > fraud.
> > ---
> > you're right ... the religious in the military need to be muzzled like
> > rabid dogs.
>
> > the military is going to say enough
> > ---
> > and American will tell them to stfu or get out.
>
> > DADT is the best that the religious in the military can hope for.
>
> > On Jun 20, 1:50 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of this whole
> > > fraud. The first Gay Pride parade, where folks are parading around with
> > > their uniforms all "gussied" up, and/or there will be some "Gay Drama"
> > > from the likes of someone like Lil'TommyTomTomForNews, shit will
> > literally
> > > hit the fan, and the military is going to say enough.
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > only DADT stopped the enforcement of these policies.
> > > > ---
> > > > as it should
>
> > > > The tide
> > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start.
> > > > ----
> > > > warmongers are hardly concerned about gay rights
>
> > > > On Jun 19, 2:11 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Actually, Plainol... all the draconian laws that persecuted and
> > > > > prosecuted Gays before DADT was put in place are now back on the
> > > > > books... only DADT stopped the enforcement of these policies. The
> > tide
> > > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start.
>
> > > > > On Jun 19, 9:05 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > the US military, unlike the religious, does not persecute
> > homosexuals.
>
> > > > > > the grip that xians once had on America is gone ... free at last!
>
> > > > > > On Jun 19, 10:02 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Will they be celebrating "Ramitdown" next?
>
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > New post on *ACGR's "News with Attitude"*
> > > > > > > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> The Many, The
> > Gay,
> > > > The New
> > > > > > > Marines to Celebrate Gay Pride
> > > > > > > Month<http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/05-972/>by
> > > > > > > Harold <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/>
>
> > > > > > > da Tagliare, Godfather Politics 6/19/2012 Source ..... For years,
> > > > I've
> > > > > > > heard the ads for the US Marine Corps that said, 'The Few, the
> > > > Proud, the
> > > > > > > Marines.' During the same time, the US Army ran recruiting ads
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > slogan, 'To be the best you can be.' I recall when I spoke to
> > > > military
> > > > > > > recruiters years [...]
>
> > > > > > > Read more of this post <
> > > >http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/05-972/>
> > > > > > > *Harold <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/>* | June
> > 19,
> > > > 2012 at
> > > > > > > 7:41 am | Categories: Corruption <
> > > >http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=22388>,
> > > > > > > Executive <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=53796>,
> > > > > > > Government<http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=2311>,
> > > > > > > Homosexuality <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=37093>,
> > > > > > > Legislative<http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=217843>,
> > > > > > > Military <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=488>,
> > > > > > > NeoConservatives<http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=152793>,
> > > > > > > Pentagon <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=31632>, Political
> > > > > > > Correctness<http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=17919>,
> > > > > > > Politics <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=398>,
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very
much mistaken.
---
did I imply that you are?
I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks like you
get
your drawers all up in a wad over Christians,
---
accusation noted and completely false
and that we are pretty much
the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about much; we
don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the secularists
like
yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and yet, we
continue
to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith".
---
you are more than welcome to keep your faith
I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and
whatever it
is that they do.
---
so, you don't believe that homosexuality is sinful like most other
christians, jews, and muzzies?
It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their
lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I don't
know. I
do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring for more
rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their behavior;
just
like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much.
---
they want the same rights ... not more rights
On Jun 20, 10:19 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Plain Ol,
>
> If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, you are very
> much mistaken. I am a Christian, and have not a problem admitting to
> that, or being ashamed of my, "Faith", (and I emphasize that "Faith" is
> the operative word there). I'm not, "Fishing For Men"; I'm not out on the
> street corner handing out leaflets, nor do I go to folks houses on Saturday
> mornings trying to get them to hear, "The Word".
>
> I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks like you get
> your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, and that we are pretty much
> the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about much; we
> don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the secularists like
> yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and yet, we continue
> to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith".
>
> I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and whatever it
> is that they do. It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their
> lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I don't know. I
> do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring for more
> rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their behavior; just
> like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much.
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of this whole
> > fraud.
> > ---
> > you're right ... the religious in the military need to be muzzled like
> > rabid dogs.
>
> > the military is going to say enough
> > ---
> > and American will tell them to stfu or get out.
>
> > DADT is the best that the religious in the military can hope for.
>
> > On Jun 20, 1:50 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of this whole
> > > fraud. The first Gay Pride parade, where folks are parading around with
> > > their uniforms all "gussied" up, and/or there will be some "Gay Drama"
> > > from the likes of someone like Lil'TommyTomTomForNews, shit will
> > literally
> > > hit the fan, and the military is going to say enough.
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > only DADT stopped the enforcement of these policies.
> > > > ---
> > > > as it should
>
> > > > The tide
> > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start.
> > > > ----
> > > > warmongers are hardly concerned about gay rights
>
> > > > On Jun 19, 2:11 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Actually, Plainol... all the draconian laws that persecuted and
> > > > > prosecuted Gays before DADT was put in place are now back on the
> > > > > books... only DADT stopped the enforcement of these policies. The
> > tide
> > > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start.
>
> > > > > On Jun 19, 9:05 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > the US military, unlike the religious, does not persecute
> > homosexuals.
>
> > > > > > the grip that xians once had on America is gone ... free at last!
>
> > > > > > On Jun 19, 10:02 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Will they be celebrating "Ramitdown" next?
>
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > New post on *ACGR's "News with Attitude"*
> > > > > > > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> The Many, The
> > Gay,
> > > > The New
> > > > > > > Marines to Celebrate Gay Pride
> > > > > > > Month<http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/05-972/>by
> > > > > > > Harold <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/>
>
> > > > > > > da Tagliare, Godfather Politics 6/19/2012 Source ..... For years,
> > > > I've
> > > > > > > heard the ads for the US Marine Corps that said, 'The Few, the
> > > > Proud, the
> > > > > > > Marines.' During the same time, the US Army ran recruiting ads
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > slogan, 'To be the best you can be.' I recall when I spoke to
> > > > military
> > > > > > > recruiters years [...]
>
> > > > > > > Read more of this post <
> > > >http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/05-972/>
> > > > > > > *Harold <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/>* | June
> > 19,
> > > > 2012 at
> > > > > > > 7:41 am | Categories: Corruption <
> > > >http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=22388>,
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