please enlighten us as to how you see "Blatant Zionism" being as
destructive as Islam
---
jews promote socialism, open borders, and a religious state ... all of
which eventually kills
On May 29, 10:41 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello PlainOl,
>
> If you have a moment, would you please explaint what has "Blatant Zionism"
> done to you, (or any-one, any entity, or any collective segment of
> society) that you have found to be intrusive or offensive?
>
> What or maybe better asked, is: "How" is "Blatant Zionism"; (*e.g.;*
> defining Zionism as a nationalist movement for the return of Jews to
> Israel, and the support of a Jewish State of Israel) "destructive", as
> compared to Islam, which calls for the death of you, me, and everyone else
> who is not a fundamentalist Muslim? A religion that advocates that women
> are chattel. Earlier, Travis posted a link to a poor girl who has been so
> brainwashed, that she believes she should cover herself in the Hajib.
> Which is to say, a brainwashed thought process that is very destructive.
>
> Again, please enlighten us as to how you see "Blatant Zionism" being as
> destructive as Islam.
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > Creeping Sharia
> > ---
> > not nearly as destructive to our nation as blatant zionism
>
> > On May 29, 8:38 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > **
> > > New post on *Creeping Sharia*
> > > <http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/author/creeping/> Islamic Call to
> > > Prayer in the Royal Ontario
> > > Museum<
> >http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/islamic-call-to-prayer..
> > .>by
> > > creeping <http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/author/creeping/>
>
> > > via Islamic Call to Prayer in the Royal Ontario Museum. On Monday, May
> > 21st
> > > (Victoria Day), I was guiding the children of a friend around the Royal
> > > Ontario Museum when I heard the Muslim call to prayer belting out of the
> > PA
> > > system. After the full call was recited, there was an announcement that
> > all
> > > [...]
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Re: Abolish Memorial Day
.... exactly what similar attack?
---
I can't remember .... regardless, the serbs and albanians have been
killing each other for years.
Examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl9JOChRHKc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxB7qSpp1WA&feature=related
For the US to once again stick it's nose in their business and then
take sides is a typical interventionist action.
leave those animals to kill each other ... we're not the World Police
and we owe them nothing
On May 29, 4:13 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Plainol.... exactly what similar attack?? Most villages that were ravaged
> in this manner (by the Milosovic faction) were "mixed" populations full of
> peasants that actually had little or no idea as to what was happening and
> why... Please document that statement... I saw no proof of that whatsoever.
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > They were actually lined up and shot (the
> > majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
> > heinous.
> > ---
> > it was revenge for a similar attack.
>
> > choose sides carefully
>
> > On May 29, 12:31 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > At 02:22 PM 5/28/2012, you wrote:<<Who really remembers the Kosovo war
> > that is, the war as it
> > > unfolded? We were told as many as a hundred-thousand Kosovars were
> > > being exterminated, and yet at war's end we found a few thousand
> > > Serbs and Kosovars in equal number had been murdered.>>
> > > We found a little over 10,000 had been killed... thats slightly more
> > > than a "few thousand". They were actually lined up and shot (the
> > > majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
> > > heinous.Kosovo - the site of a genocide that never wasKosovo - the site
> > of a genocide that never was - is now a violent "free market" in drugs and
> > prostitution. What does this tell us about the likely outcome of the Iraq
> > war?John Pilger
> > > 12/13/04 "New Statesman"-- Muted by the evidence of the Anglo-American
> > catastrophe in Iraq, the "humanitarian" war party ought to be called to
> > account for its forgotten crusade in Kosovo, the model for Blair's "onward
> > march of liberation". Just as Iraq is being torn apart by the forces of
> > empire, so was Yugoslavia, the multi-ethnic state that uniquely rejected
> > both sides in the cold war.
> > > Lies as great as those told by Bush and Blair were deployed by Clinton
> > and Blair in their grooming of public opinion for an illegal, unprovoked
> > attack on a European country. Following the same path as the build-up to
> > the invasion of Iraq, the media coverage in the spring of 1999 was a series
> > of fraudulent justifications, beginning with the then US defence secretary
> > William Cohen's claim that "we've now seen about 100,000 military-aged
> > [Albanian] men missing . . . they may have been murdered". David Scheffer,
> > the then US ambassador-at-large for war crimes, announced that as many as
> > "225,000 ethnic Albanian men aged between 14 and 59" may have been killed.
> > Blair invoked the Holocaust and "the spirit of the Second World War". The
> > British press took its cue. "Flight from genocide," wrote the Daily Mail.
> > "Echoes of the Holocaust," chorused the Sun and the Mirror. In parliament,
> > the heroic Clare Short compared to Nazi propagandists those (such as
> > myself) who objected to the bombing of defenceless people.
> > > By June 1999, with the bombardment over, international forensic teams
> > began subjecting Kosovo to minute examination. The American FBI arrived to
> > investigate what was called "the largest crime scene in the FBI's forensic
> > history". Several weeks later, having not found a single mass grave,the FBI
> > went home. The Spanish forensic team also returned home, its leader
> > complaining angrily that he and his colleagues had become part of "a
> > semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find
> > one - not one - mass grave".
> > > In November 1999, the Wall Street Journal published the results of its
> > own investigation, dismissing "the mass grave obsession". Instead of "the
> > huge killing fields some investigators were led to expect . . . the pattern
> > is of scattered killings [mostly] in areas where the separatist Kosovo
> > Liberation Army has been active". The Journal concluded that Nato stepped
> > up its claims about Serbian killing fields when it "saw a fatigued press
> > corps drifting toward the contrary story: civilians killed by Nato's bombs
> > . . . The war in Kosovo was cruel, bitter, savage. Genocide it wasn't."
> > > One year later, the International War Crimes Tribunal, a body in effect
> > set up by Nato, announced that the final count of bodies found in Kosovo's
> > "mass graves" was 2,788. This included combatants on both sides and Serbs
> > and Roma murdered by the Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army. Like Iraq's
> > fabled weapons of mass destruction, the figures used by the US and British
> > governments and echoed by journalists were inventions -- along with Serbian
> > "rape camps" and Clinton's and Blair's claims that Nato never deliberately
> > bombed civilians.
> > > Code-named "Stage Three", Nato's civilian targets included public
> > transport, hospitals, schools, museums, churches. "It was common knowledge
> > that Nato went to Stage Three [after a couple of weeks]," said James
> > Bissett, the Canadian ambassador in Belgrade during the attack. "Otherwise,
> > they would not have been bombing bridges on Sunday afternoons, and market
> > places."
> > > Nato's clients were the Kosovo Liberation Army. Seven years earlier, the
> > State Department had designated the KLA as a terrorist organisation in
> > league with al-Qaeda. In 1999, KLA thugs were feted; Robin Cook, then
> > foreign secretary, allowed them to call him on his mobile phone. "The
> > Kosovar Albanians played us like a Stradivarius violin," wrote the former
> > UN commander in Bosnia, Major General Lewis MacKenzie, last April. "We have
> > subsidised and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an
> > ethnically pure Kosovo. We have never blamed them for being the
> > perpetrators of the violence in the early 1990s, and we continue to portray
> > them as the designated victim today, in spite of evidence to the contrary."
> > > The trigger for the bombing of Yugoslavia was, according to Nato, the
> > failure of the Serbian delegation to sign up to the Rambouillet peace
> > conference. What went mostly unreported was that the Rambouillet accord had
> > a secret Annex B, which Madeleine Albright's delegation had inserted on the
> > last day. This demanded the military occupation of the whole of Yugoslavia,
> > a country with bitter memories of the Nazi occupation. As the Foreign
> > Office minister Lord Gilbert later conceded to a Commons defence select
> > committee, Annex B was planted deliberately to provoke rejection.
> > > Equally revealing was a chapter dealing exclusively with the Kosovan
> > economy. This called for a "free-market economy" and the privatisation of
> > all government assets. As the Balkans writer Neil Clark has pointed out:
> > "The rump Yugoslavia . . . was the last economy in central-southern Europe
> > to be uncolonised by western capital. 'Socially owned enterprises', the
> > form of worker self-management pioneered under Tito, still predominated.
> > Yugoslavia had publicly owned petroleum, mining, car and tobacco industries
> > . . ."
> > > At the Davos summit of neoliberal chieftains in 1999, Blair berated
> > Belgrade, not for its handling of Kosovo, but for its failure to embrace
> > "economic reform" fully. In the bombing campaign that followed, it was
> > state-owned companies, rather than military sites, that were targeted.
> > Nato's destruction of only 14 Yugoslav army tanks compares with its bombing
> > of 372 centres of industry, including the Zastava car factory. "Not one
> > foreign or privately owned factory was bombed," wrote Clark.
> > > Erected on the foundation of this huge lie, Kosovo today is a violent,
> > criminalised, UN-administered "free market" in drugs and prostitution;
> > unemployment is 65 per cent. More than 200,000 Serbs, Roma, Bosniaks,
> > Turks, Croats and Jews have been ethnically cleansed by the KLA, with Nato
> > forces standing by. KLA hit squads have burned, looted or demolished 85
> > Orthodox churches and monasteries, according to the UN. The courts are
> > venal. "You shot an 89-year-old Serb grandmother?" mocked a UN narcotics
> > officer. "Good for you. Get out of jail."
> > > Although Security Council Resolution 1244 recognises Kosovo as an
> > integral part of Yugoslavia, multinational companies are being offered ten-
> > and 15-year leases of the province's local industries and resources,
> > including the vast Trepca mines, some of the richest mineral deposits in
> > the world. Overseeing this plundered, now almost ethnically pure "future
> > democracy" (Blair), are 4,000 American troops at Camp Bondsteel, a 775-acre
> > permanent-base imperial presence.
> > > Meanwhile, the show trial of Slobodan Milosevic proceeds as farce.
> > Milosevic was a brute; he was also a banker once regarded as the west's man
> > who was prepared to implement "economic reforms" in keeping with IMF, World
> > Bank and European Union demands; to his cost, he refused to surrender
> > sovereignty. The empire expects nothing less.
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I can't remember .... regardless, the serbs and albanians have been
killing each other for years.
Examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl9JOChRHKc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxB7qSpp1WA&feature=related
For the US to once again stick it's nose in their business and then
take sides is a typical interventionist action.
leave those animals to kill each other ... we're not the World Police
and we owe them nothing
On May 29, 4:13 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Plainol.... exactly what similar attack?? Most villages that were ravaged
> in this manner (by the Milosovic faction) were "mixed" populations full of
> peasants that actually had little or no idea as to what was happening and
> why... Please document that statement... I saw no proof of that whatsoever.
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > They were actually lined up and shot (the
> > majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
> > heinous.
> > ---
> > it was revenge for a similar attack.
>
> > choose sides carefully
>
> > On May 29, 12:31 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > At 02:22 PM 5/28/2012, you wrote:<<Who really remembers the Kosovo war
> > that is, the war as it
> > > unfolded? We were told as many as a hundred-thousand Kosovars were
> > > being exterminated, and yet at war's end we found a few thousand
> > > Serbs and Kosovars in equal number had been murdered.>>
> > > We found a little over 10,000 had been killed... thats slightly more
> > > than a "few thousand". They were actually lined up and shot (the
> > > majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
> > > heinous.Kosovo - the site of a genocide that never wasKosovo - the site
> > of a genocide that never was - is now a violent "free market" in drugs and
> > prostitution. What does this tell us about the likely outcome of the Iraq
> > war?John Pilger
> > > 12/13/04 "New Statesman"-- Muted by the evidence of the Anglo-American
> > catastrophe in Iraq, the "humanitarian" war party ought to be called to
> > account for its forgotten crusade in Kosovo, the model for Blair's "onward
> > march of liberation". Just as Iraq is being torn apart by the forces of
> > empire, so was Yugoslavia, the multi-ethnic state that uniquely rejected
> > both sides in the cold war.
> > > Lies as great as those told by Bush and Blair were deployed by Clinton
> > and Blair in their grooming of public opinion for an illegal, unprovoked
> > attack on a European country. Following the same path as the build-up to
> > the invasion of Iraq, the media coverage in the spring of 1999 was a series
> > of fraudulent justifications, beginning with the then US defence secretary
> > William Cohen's claim that "we've now seen about 100,000 military-aged
> > [Albanian] men missing . . . they may have been murdered". David Scheffer,
> > the then US ambassador-at-large for war crimes, announced that as many as
> > "225,000 ethnic Albanian men aged between 14 and 59" may have been killed.
> > Blair invoked the Holocaust and "the spirit of the Second World War". The
> > British press took its cue. "Flight from genocide," wrote the Daily Mail.
> > "Echoes of the Holocaust," chorused the Sun and the Mirror. In parliament,
> > the heroic Clare Short compared to Nazi propagandists those (such as
> > myself) who objected to the bombing of defenceless people.
> > > By June 1999, with the bombardment over, international forensic teams
> > began subjecting Kosovo to minute examination. The American FBI arrived to
> > investigate what was called "the largest crime scene in the FBI's forensic
> > history". Several weeks later, having not found a single mass grave,the FBI
> > went home. The Spanish forensic team also returned home, its leader
> > complaining angrily that he and his colleagues had become part of "a
> > semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find
> > one - not one - mass grave".
> > > In November 1999, the Wall Street Journal published the results of its
> > own investigation, dismissing "the mass grave obsession". Instead of "the
> > huge killing fields some investigators were led to expect . . . the pattern
> > is of scattered killings [mostly] in areas where the separatist Kosovo
> > Liberation Army has been active". The Journal concluded that Nato stepped
> > up its claims about Serbian killing fields when it "saw a fatigued press
> > corps drifting toward the contrary story: civilians killed by Nato's bombs
> > . . . The war in Kosovo was cruel, bitter, savage. Genocide it wasn't."
> > > One year later, the International War Crimes Tribunal, a body in effect
> > set up by Nato, announced that the final count of bodies found in Kosovo's
> > "mass graves" was 2,788. This included combatants on both sides and Serbs
> > and Roma murdered by the Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army. Like Iraq's
> > fabled weapons of mass destruction, the figures used by the US and British
> > governments and echoed by journalists were inventions -- along with Serbian
> > "rape camps" and Clinton's and Blair's claims that Nato never deliberately
> > bombed civilians.
> > > Code-named "Stage Three", Nato's civilian targets included public
> > transport, hospitals, schools, museums, churches. "It was common knowledge
> > that Nato went to Stage Three [after a couple of weeks]," said James
> > Bissett, the Canadian ambassador in Belgrade during the attack. "Otherwise,
> > they would not have been bombing bridges on Sunday afternoons, and market
> > places."
> > > Nato's clients were the Kosovo Liberation Army. Seven years earlier, the
> > State Department had designated the KLA as a terrorist organisation in
> > league with al-Qaeda. In 1999, KLA thugs were feted; Robin Cook, then
> > foreign secretary, allowed them to call him on his mobile phone. "The
> > Kosovar Albanians played us like a Stradivarius violin," wrote the former
> > UN commander in Bosnia, Major General Lewis MacKenzie, last April. "We have
> > subsidised and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an
> > ethnically pure Kosovo. We have never blamed them for being the
> > perpetrators of the violence in the early 1990s, and we continue to portray
> > them as the designated victim today, in spite of evidence to the contrary."
> > > The trigger for the bombing of Yugoslavia was, according to Nato, the
> > failure of the Serbian delegation to sign up to the Rambouillet peace
> > conference. What went mostly unreported was that the Rambouillet accord had
> > a secret Annex B, which Madeleine Albright's delegation had inserted on the
> > last day. This demanded the military occupation of the whole of Yugoslavia,
> > a country with bitter memories of the Nazi occupation. As the Foreign
> > Office minister Lord Gilbert later conceded to a Commons defence select
> > committee, Annex B was planted deliberately to provoke rejection.
> > > Equally revealing was a chapter dealing exclusively with the Kosovan
> > economy. This called for a "free-market economy" and the privatisation of
> > all government assets. As the Balkans writer Neil Clark has pointed out:
> > "The rump Yugoslavia . . . was the last economy in central-southern Europe
> > to be uncolonised by western capital. 'Socially owned enterprises', the
> > form of worker self-management pioneered under Tito, still predominated.
> > Yugoslavia had publicly owned petroleum, mining, car and tobacco industries
> > . . ."
> > > At the Davos summit of neoliberal chieftains in 1999, Blair berated
> > Belgrade, not for its handling of Kosovo, but for its failure to embrace
> > "economic reform" fully. In the bombing campaign that followed, it was
> > state-owned companies, rather than military sites, that were targeted.
> > Nato's destruction of only 14 Yugoslav army tanks compares with its bombing
> > of 372 centres of industry, including the Zastava car factory. "Not one
> > foreign or privately owned factory was bombed," wrote Clark.
> > > Erected on the foundation of this huge lie, Kosovo today is a violent,
> > criminalised, UN-administered "free market" in drugs and prostitution;
> > unemployment is 65 per cent. More than 200,000 Serbs, Roma, Bosniaks,
> > Turks, Croats and Jews have been ethnically cleansed by the KLA, with Nato
> > forces standing by. KLA hit squads have burned, looted or demolished 85
> > Orthodox churches and monasteries, according to the UN. The courts are
> > venal. "You shot an 89-year-old Serb grandmother?" mocked a UN narcotics
> > officer. "Good for you. Get out of jail."
> > > Although Security Council Resolution 1244 recognises Kosovo as an
> > integral part of Yugoslavia, multinational companies are being offered ten-
> > and 15-year leases of the province's local industries and resources,
> > including the vast Trepca mines, some of the richest mineral deposits in
> > the world. Overseeing this plundered, now almost ethnically pure "future
> > democracy" (Blair), are 4,000 American troops at Camp Bondsteel, a 775-acre
> > permanent-base imperial presence.
> > > Meanwhile, the show trial of Slobodan Milosevic proceeds as farce.
> > Milosevic was a brute; he was also a banker once regarded as the west's man
> > who was prepared to implement "economic reforms" in keeping with IMF, World
> > Bank and European Union demands; to his cost, he refused to surrender
> > sovereignty. The empire expects nothing less.
> >https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1ObvBTTqDeUJ:ww...
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Re: Abolish Memorial Day
Plainol.... exactly what similar attack?? Most villages that were ravaged in this manner (by the Milosovic faction) were "mixed" populations full of peasants that actually had little or no idea as to what was happening and why... Please document that statement... I saw no proof of that whatsoever.
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On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
They were actually lined up and shot (the---
majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
heinous.
it was revenge for a similar attack.
choose sides carefully
> heinous.Kosovo - the site of a genocide that never wasKosovo - the site of a genocide that never was - is now a violent "free market" in drugs and prostitution. What does this tell us about the likely outcome of the Iraq war?John Pilger
On May 29, 12:31 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> At 02:22 PM 5/28/2012, you wrote:<<Who really remembers the Kosovo war that is, the war as it
> unfolded? We were told as many as a hundred-thousand Kosovars were
> being exterminated, and yet at war's end we found a few thousand
> Serbs and Kosovars in equal number had been murdered.>>
> We found a little over 10,000 had been killed... thats slightly more
> than a "few thousand". They were actually lined up and shot (the
> majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
> 12/13/04 "New Statesman"-- Muted by the evidence of the Anglo-American catastrophe in Iraq, the "humanitarian" war party ought to be called to account for its forgotten crusade in Kosovo, the model for Blair's "onward march of liberation". Just as Iraq is being torn apart by the forces of empire, so was Yugoslavia, the multi-ethnic state that uniquely rejected both sides in the cold war.> By June 1999, with the bombardment over, international forensic teams began subjecting Kosovo to minute examination. The American FBI arrived to investigate what was called "the largest crime scene in the FBI's forensic history". Several weeks later, having not found a single mass grave,the FBI went home. The Spanish forensic team also returned home, its leader complaining angrily that he and his colleagues had become part of "a semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find one - not one - mass grave".
> Lies as great as those told by Bush and Blair were deployed by Clinton and Blair in their grooming of public opinion for an illegal, unprovoked attack on a European country. Following the same path as the build-up to the invasion of Iraq, the media coverage in the spring of 1999 was a series of fraudulent justifications, beginning with the then US defence secretary William Cohen's claim that "we've now seen about 100,000 military-aged [Albanian] men missing . . . they may have been murdered". David Scheffer, the then US ambassador-at-large for war crimes, announced that as many as "225,000 ethnic Albanian men aged between 14 and 59" may have been killed. Blair invoked the Holocaust and "the spirit of the Second World War". The British press took its cue. "Flight from genocide," wrote the Daily Mail. "Echoes of the Holocaust," chorused the Sun and the Mirror. In parliament, the heroic Clare Short compared to Nazi propagandists those (such as myself) who objected to the bombing of defenceless people.
> In November 1999, the Wall Street Journal published the results of its own investigation, dismissing "the mass grave obsession". Instead of "the huge killing fields some investigators were led to expect . . . the pattern is of scattered killings [mostly] in areas where the separatist Kosovo Liberation Army has been active". The Journal concluded that Nato stepped up its claims about Serbian killing fields when it "saw a fatigued press corps drifting toward the contrary story: civilians killed by Nato's bombs . . . The war in Kosovo was cruel, bitter, savage. Genocide it wasn't."> Meanwhile, the show trial of Slobodan Milosevic proceeds as farce. Milosevic was a brute; he was also a banker once regarded as the west's man who was prepared to implement "economic reforms" in keeping with IMF, World Bank and European Union demands; to his cost, he refused to surrender sovereignty. The empire expects nothing less.https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1ObvBTTqDeUJ:www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7439.htm+%22the+FBI+went+home%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
> One year later, the International War Crimes Tribunal, a body in effect set up by Nato, announced that the final count of bodies found in Kosovo's "mass graves" was 2,788. This included combatants on both sides and Serbs and Roma murdered by the Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army. Like Iraq's fabled weapons of mass destruction, the figures used by the US and British governments and echoed by journalists were inventions -- along with Serbian "rape camps" and Clinton's and Blair's claims that Nato never deliberately bombed civilians.
> Code-named "Stage Three", Nato's civilian targets included public transport, hospitals, schools, museums, churches. "It was common knowledge that Nato went to Stage Three [after a couple of weeks]," said James Bissett, the Canadian ambassador in Belgrade during the attack. "Otherwise, they would not have been bombing bridges on Sunday afternoons, and market places."
> Nato's clients were the Kosovo Liberation Army. Seven years earlier, the State Department had designated the KLA as a terrorist organisation in league with al-Qaeda. In 1999, KLA thugs were feted; Robin Cook, then foreign secretary, allowed them to call him on his mobile phone. "The Kosovar Albanians played us like a Stradivarius violin," wrote the former UN commander in Bosnia, Major General Lewis MacKenzie, last April. "We have subsidised and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure Kosovo. We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early 1990s, and we continue to portray them as the designated victim today, in spite of evidence to the contrary."
> The trigger for the bombing of Yugoslavia was, according to Nato, the failure of the Serbian delegation to sign up to the Rambouillet peace conference. What went mostly unreported was that the Rambouillet accord had a secret Annex B, which Madeleine Albright's delegation had inserted on the last day. This demanded the military occupation of the whole of Yugoslavia, a country with bitter memories of the Nazi occupation. As the Foreign Office minister Lord Gilbert later conceded to a Commons defence select committee, Annex B was planted deliberately to provoke rejection.
> Equally revealing was a chapter dealing exclusively with the Kosovan economy. This called for a "free-market economy" and the privatisation of all government assets. As the Balkans writer Neil Clark has pointed out: "The rump Yugoslavia . . . was the last economy in central-southern Europe to be uncolonised by western capital. 'Socially owned enterprises', the form of worker self-management pioneered under Tito, still predominated. Yugoslavia had publicly owned petroleum, mining, car and tobacco industries . . ."
> At the Davos summit of neoliberal chieftains in 1999, Blair berated Belgrade, not for its handling of Kosovo, but for its failure to embrace "economic reform" fully. In the bombing campaign that followed, it was state-owned companies, rather than military sites, that were targeted. Nato's destruction of only 14 Yugoslav army tanks compares with its bombing of 372 centres of industry, including the Zastava car factory. "Not one foreign or privately owned factory was bombed," wrote Clark.
> Erected on the foundation of this huge lie, Kosovo today is a violent, criminalised, UN-administered "free market" in drugs and prostitution; unemployment is 65 per cent. More than 200,000 Serbs, Roma, Bosniaks, Turks, Croats and Jews have been ethnically cleansed by the KLA, with Nato forces standing by. KLA hit squads have burned, looted or demolished 85 Orthodox churches and monasteries, according to the UN. The courts are venal. "You shot an 89-year-old Serb grandmother?" mocked a UN narcotics officer. "Good for you. Get out of jail."
> Although Security Council Resolution 1244 recognises Kosovo as an integral part of Yugoslavia, multinational companies are being offered ten- and 15-year leases of the province's local industries and resources, including the vast Trepca mines, some of the richest mineral deposits in the world. Overseeing this plundered, now almost ethnically pure "future democracy" (Blair), are 4,000 American troops at Camp Bondsteel, a 775-acre permanent-base imperial presence.
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Re: Abolish Memorial Day
They were actually lined up and shot (the
majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
heinous.
---
it was revenge for a similar attack.
choose sides carefully
On May 29, 12:31 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> At 02:22 PM 5/28/2012, you wrote:<<Who really remembers the Kosovo war that is, the war as it
> unfolded? We were told as many as a hundred-thousand Kosovars were
> being exterminated, and yet at war's end we found a few thousand
> Serbs and Kosovars in equal number had been murdered.>>
> We found a little over 10,000 had been killed... thats slightly more
> than a "few thousand". They were actually lined up and shot (the
> majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
> heinous.Kosovo - the site of a genocide that never wasKosovo - the site of a genocide that never was - is now a violent "free market" in drugs and prostitution. What does this tell us about the likely outcome of the Iraq war?John Pilger
> 12/13/04 "New Statesman"-- Muted by the evidence of the Anglo-American catastrophe in Iraq, the "humanitarian" war party ought to be called to account for its forgotten crusade in Kosovo, the model for Blair's "onward march of liberation". Just as Iraq is being torn apart by the forces of empire, so was Yugoslavia, the multi-ethnic state that uniquely rejected both sides in the cold war.
> Lies as great as those told by Bush and Blair were deployed by Clinton and Blair in their grooming of public opinion for an illegal, unprovoked attack on a European country. Following the same path as the build-up to the invasion of Iraq, the media coverage in the spring of 1999 was a series of fraudulent justifications, beginning with the then US defence secretary William Cohen's claim that "we've now seen about 100,000 military-aged [Albanian] men missing . . . they may have been murdered". David Scheffer, the then US ambassador-at-large for war crimes, announced that as many as "225,000 ethnic Albanian men aged between 14 and 59" may have been killed. Blair invoked the Holocaust and "the spirit of the Second World War". The British press took its cue. "Flight from genocide," wrote the Daily Mail. "Echoes of the Holocaust," chorused the Sun and the Mirror. In parliament, the heroic Clare Short compared to Nazi propagandists those (such as myself) who objected to the bombing of defenceless people.
> By June 1999, with the bombardment over, international forensic teams began subjecting Kosovo to minute examination. The American FBI arrived to investigate what was called "the largest crime scene in the FBI's forensic history". Several weeks later, having not found a single mass grave,the FBI went home. The Spanish forensic team also returned home, its leader complaining angrily that he and his colleagues had become part of "a semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find one - not one - mass grave".
> In November 1999, the Wall Street Journal published the results of its own investigation, dismissing "the mass grave obsession". Instead of "the huge killing fields some investigators were led to expect . . . the pattern is of scattered killings [mostly] in areas where the separatist Kosovo Liberation Army has been active". The Journal concluded that Nato stepped up its claims about Serbian killing fields when it "saw a fatigued press corps drifting toward the contrary story: civilians killed by Nato's bombs . . . The war in Kosovo was cruel, bitter, savage. Genocide it wasn't."
> One year later, the International War Crimes Tribunal, a body in effect set up by Nato, announced that the final count of bodies found in Kosovo's "mass graves" was 2,788. This included combatants on both sides and Serbs and Roma murdered by the Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army. Like Iraq's fabled weapons of mass destruction, the figures used by the US and British governments and echoed by journalists were inventions -- along with Serbian "rape camps" and Clinton's and Blair's claims that Nato never deliberately bombed civilians.
> Code-named "Stage Three", Nato's civilian targets included public transport, hospitals, schools, museums, churches. "It was common knowledge that Nato went to Stage Three [after a couple of weeks]," said James Bissett, the Canadian ambassador in Belgrade during the attack. "Otherwise, they would not have been bombing bridges on Sunday afternoons, and market places."
> Nato's clients were the Kosovo Liberation Army. Seven years earlier, the State Department had designated the KLA as a terrorist organisation in league with al-Qaeda. In 1999, KLA thugs were feted; Robin Cook, then foreign secretary, allowed them to call him on his mobile phone. "The Kosovar Albanians played us like a Stradivarius violin," wrote the former UN commander in Bosnia, Major General Lewis MacKenzie, last April. "We have subsidised and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure Kosovo. We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early 1990s, and we continue to portray them as the designated victim today, in spite of evidence to the contrary."
> The trigger for the bombing of Yugoslavia was, according to Nato, the failure of the Serbian delegation to sign up to the Rambouillet peace conference. What went mostly unreported was that the Rambouillet accord had a secret Annex B, which Madeleine Albright's delegation had inserted on the last day. This demanded the military occupation of the whole of Yugoslavia, a country with bitter memories of the Nazi occupation. As the Foreign Office minister Lord Gilbert later conceded to a Commons defence select committee, Annex B was planted deliberately to provoke rejection.
> Equally revealing was a chapter dealing exclusively with the Kosovan economy. This called for a "free-market economy" and the privatisation of all government assets. As the Balkans writer Neil Clark has pointed out: "The rump Yugoslavia . . . was the last economy in central-southern Europe to be uncolonised by western capital. 'Socially owned enterprises', the form of worker self-management pioneered under Tito, still predominated. Yugoslavia had publicly owned petroleum, mining, car and tobacco industries . . ."
> At the Davos summit of neoliberal chieftains in 1999, Blair berated Belgrade, not for its handling of Kosovo, but for its failure to embrace "economic reform" fully. In the bombing campaign that followed, it was state-owned companies, rather than military sites, that were targeted. Nato's destruction of only 14 Yugoslav army tanks compares with its bombing of 372 centres of industry, including the Zastava car factory. "Not one foreign or privately owned factory was bombed," wrote Clark.
> Erected on the foundation of this huge lie, Kosovo today is a violent, criminalised, UN-administered "free market" in drugs and prostitution; unemployment is 65 per cent. More than 200,000 Serbs, Roma, Bosniaks, Turks, Croats and Jews have been ethnically cleansed by the KLA, with Nato forces standing by. KLA hit squads have burned, looted or demolished 85 Orthodox churches and monasteries, according to the UN. The courts are venal. "You shot an 89-year-old Serb grandmother?" mocked a UN narcotics officer. "Good for you. Get out of jail."
> Although Security Council Resolution 1244 recognises Kosovo as an integral part of Yugoslavia, multinational companies are being offered ten- and 15-year leases of the province's local industries and resources, including the vast Trepca mines, some of the richest mineral deposits in the world. Overseeing this plundered, now almost ethnically pure "future democracy" (Blair), are 4,000 American troops at Camp Bondsteel, a 775-acre permanent-base imperial presence.
> Meanwhile, the show trial of Slobodan Milosevic proceeds as farce. Milosevic was a brute; he was also a banker once regarded as the west's man who was prepared to implement "economic reforms" in keeping with IMF, World Bank and European Union demands; to his cost, he refused to surrender sovereignty. The empire expects nothing less.https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1ObvBTTqDeUJ:www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7439.htm+%22the+FBI+went+home%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
heinous.
---
it was revenge for a similar attack.
choose sides carefully
On May 29, 12:31 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> At 02:22 PM 5/28/2012, you wrote:<<Who really remembers the Kosovo war that is, the war as it
> unfolded? We were told as many as a hundred-thousand Kosovars were
> being exterminated, and yet at war's end we found a few thousand
> Serbs and Kosovars in equal number had been murdered.>>
> We found a little over 10,000 had been killed... thats slightly more
> than a "few thousand". They were actually lined up and shot (the
> majority) and buried in mass graves; which is what made this specially
> heinous.Kosovo - the site of a genocide that never wasKosovo - the site of a genocide that never was - is now a violent "free market" in drugs and prostitution. What does this tell us about the likely outcome of the Iraq war?John Pilger
> 12/13/04 "New Statesman"-- Muted by the evidence of the Anglo-American catastrophe in Iraq, the "humanitarian" war party ought to be called to account for its forgotten crusade in Kosovo, the model for Blair's "onward march of liberation". Just as Iraq is being torn apart by the forces of empire, so was Yugoslavia, the multi-ethnic state that uniquely rejected both sides in the cold war.
> Lies as great as those told by Bush and Blair were deployed by Clinton and Blair in their grooming of public opinion for an illegal, unprovoked attack on a European country. Following the same path as the build-up to the invasion of Iraq, the media coverage in the spring of 1999 was a series of fraudulent justifications, beginning with the then US defence secretary William Cohen's claim that "we've now seen about 100,000 military-aged [Albanian] men missing . . . they may have been murdered". David Scheffer, the then US ambassador-at-large for war crimes, announced that as many as "225,000 ethnic Albanian men aged between 14 and 59" may have been killed. Blair invoked the Holocaust and "the spirit of the Second World War". The British press took its cue. "Flight from genocide," wrote the Daily Mail. "Echoes of the Holocaust," chorused the Sun and the Mirror. In parliament, the heroic Clare Short compared to Nazi propagandists those (such as myself) who objected to the bombing of defenceless people.
> By June 1999, with the bombardment over, international forensic teams began subjecting Kosovo to minute examination. The American FBI arrived to investigate what was called "the largest crime scene in the FBI's forensic history". Several weeks later, having not found a single mass grave,the FBI went home. The Spanish forensic team also returned home, its leader complaining angrily that he and his colleagues had become part of "a semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find one - not one - mass grave".
> In November 1999, the Wall Street Journal published the results of its own investigation, dismissing "the mass grave obsession". Instead of "the huge killing fields some investigators were led to expect . . . the pattern is of scattered killings [mostly] in areas where the separatist Kosovo Liberation Army has been active". The Journal concluded that Nato stepped up its claims about Serbian killing fields when it "saw a fatigued press corps drifting toward the contrary story: civilians killed by Nato's bombs . . . The war in Kosovo was cruel, bitter, savage. Genocide it wasn't."
> One year later, the International War Crimes Tribunal, a body in effect set up by Nato, announced that the final count of bodies found in Kosovo's "mass graves" was 2,788. This included combatants on both sides and Serbs and Roma murdered by the Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army. Like Iraq's fabled weapons of mass destruction, the figures used by the US and British governments and echoed by journalists were inventions -- along with Serbian "rape camps" and Clinton's and Blair's claims that Nato never deliberately bombed civilians.
> Code-named "Stage Three", Nato's civilian targets included public transport, hospitals, schools, museums, churches. "It was common knowledge that Nato went to Stage Three [after a couple of weeks]," said James Bissett, the Canadian ambassador in Belgrade during the attack. "Otherwise, they would not have been bombing bridges on Sunday afternoons, and market places."
> Nato's clients were the Kosovo Liberation Army. Seven years earlier, the State Department had designated the KLA as a terrorist organisation in league with al-Qaeda. In 1999, KLA thugs were feted; Robin Cook, then foreign secretary, allowed them to call him on his mobile phone. "The Kosovar Albanians played us like a Stradivarius violin," wrote the former UN commander in Bosnia, Major General Lewis MacKenzie, last April. "We have subsidised and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure Kosovo. We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early 1990s, and we continue to portray them as the designated victim today, in spite of evidence to the contrary."
> The trigger for the bombing of Yugoslavia was, according to Nato, the failure of the Serbian delegation to sign up to the Rambouillet peace conference. What went mostly unreported was that the Rambouillet accord had a secret Annex B, which Madeleine Albright's delegation had inserted on the last day. This demanded the military occupation of the whole of Yugoslavia, a country with bitter memories of the Nazi occupation. As the Foreign Office minister Lord Gilbert later conceded to a Commons defence select committee, Annex B was planted deliberately to provoke rejection.
> Equally revealing was a chapter dealing exclusively with the Kosovan economy. This called for a "free-market economy" and the privatisation of all government assets. As the Balkans writer Neil Clark has pointed out: "The rump Yugoslavia . . . was the last economy in central-southern Europe to be uncolonised by western capital. 'Socially owned enterprises', the form of worker self-management pioneered under Tito, still predominated. Yugoslavia had publicly owned petroleum, mining, car and tobacco industries . . ."
> At the Davos summit of neoliberal chieftains in 1999, Blair berated Belgrade, not for its handling of Kosovo, but for its failure to embrace "economic reform" fully. In the bombing campaign that followed, it was state-owned companies, rather than military sites, that were targeted. Nato's destruction of only 14 Yugoslav army tanks compares with its bombing of 372 centres of industry, including the Zastava car factory. "Not one foreign or privately owned factory was bombed," wrote Clark.
> Erected on the foundation of this huge lie, Kosovo today is a violent, criminalised, UN-administered "free market" in drugs and prostitution; unemployment is 65 per cent. More than 200,000 Serbs, Roma, Bosniaks, Turks, Croats and Jews have been ethnically cleansed by the KLA, with Nato forces standing by. KLA hit squads have burned, looted or demolished 85 Orthodox churches and monasteries, according to the UN. The courts are venal. "You shot an 89-year-old Serb grandmother?" mocked a UN narcotics officer. "Good for you. Get out of jail."
> Although Security Council Resolution 1244 recognises Kosovo as an integral part of Yugoslavia, multinational companies are being offered ten- and 15-year leases of the province's local industries and resources, including the vast Trepca mines, some of the richest mineral deposits in the world. Overseeing this plundered, now almost ethnically pure "future democracy" (Blair), are 4,000 American troops at Camp Bondsteel, a 775-acre permanent-base imperial presence.
> Meanwhile, the show trial of Slobodan Milosevic proceeds as farce. Milosevic was a brute; he was also a banker once regarded as the west's man who was prepared to implement "economic reforms" in keeping with IMF, World Bank and European Union demands; to his cost, he refused to surrender sovereignty. The empire expects nothing less.https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1ObvBTTqDeUJ:www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7439.htm+%22the+FBI+went+home%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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Re: U.S. Special Forces are in North Korea
*What if one of our Special Ops is captured by the lunatic North
Koreans?*
---
it will reinforce the USA's reputation as an interventionist
nation ... sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong
On May 29, 10:40 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> New post on *Fellowship of the Minds*
> <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/> U.S. Special
> Forces are in North
> Korea<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/u-s-special-forces-...>by
> Dr. Eowyn <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/>
>
> As the war drums beat ever louder against Syria, in the name of "human
> rights," the startling news this morning is that U.S. special forces have
> been parachuting into North Korea to, in the words of "a senior US
> officer," "gather intelligence about underground military installations."
>
> Ask yourself this question:
>
> *What if one of our Special Ops is captured by the lunatic North Koreans?*
>
> [image: Soldiers from the US Marine Corps take part in a US-South Korea
> joint landing operation drill along the shore in Pohang, about 370 km (230
> miles) southeast of Seoul, March 29, 2012. North Korea remains technically
> at war with South Korea since the end of the Korean War in 1953. In a sign
> North Korea is moving forward with its announced plan to launch a rocket in
> mid-April, a U.S. official confirmed the United States had detected
> activity that looked like launch preparations at a facility near the
> country's northwestern border with China]
> The UK's *Telegraph*
> reports<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9296587/US-...>,
> May 29, 2012, that at a conference held in Florida last week, Army
> Brigadier General Neil Tolley, commander of US special forces in South
> Korea<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/southkorea/>,
> said that North Korea had built thousands of tunnels since the Korean war,
> which are hidden from our satellites. And so, Tolley revealed:
>
> "*So we send (South Korean) soldiers and US soldiers to the North to do
> special reconnaissance. *After 50 years, we still don't know much about the
> capability and full extent of the underground facilities. We don't know how
> many we don't know about."
>
> Tolley's comments were reported on the website of *The Diplomat*, the
> National Defense Industrial Association's magazine.
>
> Gen Tolley said the commandos were sent in with minimal equipment to
> facilitate their movements and minimize the risk of detection by North
> Korean forces.
>
> At least four of the tunnels built by Pyongyang go under the Demilitarized
> Zone separating North and South Korea. Among the facilities identified are
> 20 air fields that are partially underground, and thousands of artillery
> positions. In February, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported that
> Pyongyang had built at least two new tunnels at a nuclear testing site,
> likely in preparation for a new test.
>
> +++
>
> Here are some statistics<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/saying-enough-to-th...>to
> remember:
>
> - U.S. national debt is now $16 trillion.
>
> - But U.S. "defense" military budget keeps going up: from $370 in 2001,
> to $620 billion in 2006, to $900 billion in 2012.
>
> - Since 1990 when America's most formidable enemy the Soviet Union fell
> apart, ending the Cold War, U.S. military expenses depleted the U.S.
> Treasury of $11.5 trillion.
>
> - U.S. national debt in 1990 was $3.2 trillion. Today, it is $15.7
> trillion -- a 500% increase in 22 years.
>
> - In 2001, spending on "defense" was 17% of total governmental spending.
> In 2012, Defense, Homeland Security, and war spending account for 25% of
> government spending.
>
> - We have thrown over $1.3 trillion down Middle East rat holes over the
> last 11 years with no discernible benefit to the citizens of the United
> States. But the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost America the lives of
> 6,470 soldiers and 47,545 wounded -- thus far.
>
> - America's perpetual wars are stressing and pushing our soldiers beyond
> their limits. Suicides by soldiers increased by 80% between 2004 and 2008.
> There are almost as many deaths by suicide as deaths in combat. Half of our
> returning Iraq and Afghan wars soldiers will go on disability.
>
> - Our military veterans, who make up 13% of the population, account for
> 23% of the homeless.
>
> Still on the fence about the U.S. Perpetual War Machine?
>
> *~Eowyn*
> *Dr. Eowyn <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/>* | May
> 29, 2012 at 6:33 am | Tags: Afghan
> war<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?tag=afghan-war>,
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Koreans?*
---
it will reinforce the USA's reputation as an interventionist
nation ... sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong
On May 29, 10:40 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> New post on *Fellowship of the Minds*
> <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/> U.S. Special
> Forces are in North
> Korea<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/u-s-special-forces-...>by
> Dr. Eowyn <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/>
>
> As the war drums beat ever louder against Syria, in the name of "human
> rights," the startling news this morning is that U.S. special forces have
> been parachuting into North Korea to, in the words of "a senior US
> officer," "gather intelligence about underground military installations."
>
> Ask yourself this question:
>
> *What if one of our Special Ops is captured by the lunatic North Koreans?*
>
> [image: Soldiers from the US Marine Corps take part in a US-South Korea
> joint landing operation drill along the shore in Pohang, about 370 km (230
> miles) southeast of Seoul, March 29, 2012. North Korea remains technically
> at war with South Korea since the end of the Korean War in 1953. In a sign
> North Korea is moving forward with its announced plan to launch a rocket in
> mid-April, a U.S. official confirmed the United States had detected
> activity that looked like launch preparations at a facility near the
> country's northwestern border with China]
> The UK's *Telegraph*
> reports<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9296587/US-...>,
> May 29, 2012, that at a conference held in Florida last week, Army
> Brigadier General Neil Tolley, commander of US special forces in South
> Korea<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/southkorea/>,
> said that North Korea had built thousands of tunnels since the Korean war,
> which are hidden from our satellites. And so, Tolley revealed:
>
> "*So we send (South Korean) soldiers and US soldiers to the North to do
> special reconnaissance. *After 50 years, we still don't know much about the
> capability and full extent of the underground facilities. We don't know how
> many we don't know about."
>
> Tolley's comments were reported on the website of *The Diplomat*, the
> National Defense Industrial Association's magazine.
>
> Gen Tolley said the commandos were sent in with minimal equipment to
> facilitate their movements and minimize the risk of detection by North
> Korean forces.
>
> At least four of the tunnels built by Pyongyang go under the Demilitarized
> Zone separating North and South Korea. Among the facilities identified are
> 20 air fields that are partially underground, and thousands of artillery
> positions. In February, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported that
> Pyongyang had built at least two new tunnels at a nuclear testing site,
> likely in preparation for a new test.
>
> +++
>
> Here are some statistics<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/saying-enough-to-th...>to
> remember:
>
> - U.S. national debt is now $16 trillion.
>
> - But U.S. "defense" military budget keeps going up: from $370 in 2001,
> to $620 billion in 2006, to $900 billion in 2012.
>
> - Since 1990 when America's most formidable enemy the Soviet Union fell
> apart, ending the Cold War, U.S. military expenses depleted the U.S.
> Treasury of $11.5 trillion.
>
> - U.S. national debt in 1990 was $3.2 trillion. Today, it is $15.7
> trillion -- a 500% increase in 22 years.
>
> - In 2001, spending on "defense" was 17% of total governmental spending.
> In 2012, Defense, Homeland Security, and war spending account for 25% of
> government spending.
>
> - We have thrown over $1.3 trillion down Middle East rat holes over the
> last 11 years with no discernible benefit to the citizens of the United
> States. But the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost America the lives of
> 6,470 soldiers and 47,545 wounded -- thus far.
>
> - America's perpetual wars are stressing and pushing our soldiers beyond
> their limits. Suicides by soldiers increased by 80% between 2004 and 2008.
> There are almost as many deaths by suicide as deaths in combat. Half of our
> returning Iraq and Afghan wars soldiers will go on disability.
>
> - Our military veterans, who make up 13% of the population, account for
> 23% of the homeless.
>
> Still on the fence about the U.S. Perpetual War Machine?
>
> *~Eowyn*
> *Dr. Eowyn <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/>* | May
> 29, 2012 at 6:33 am | Tags: Afghan
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