Monday, February 27, 2012

Re: Rick Santorum Dragged Down By Support Of Bush Initiatives

The Little Annointed None is clueless.

On Feb 25, 11:00 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greg,
>
> It not a long list.... Simply say "All of them with NO exceptions".
> Obama is Bush lll , Tommy just refuses to open his eyes.
>
> On Feb 24, 10:07 am, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ted Kennedy sponsored No Child Left Behind.
>
> > Now if you'd like a list of Bush initiatives Obama has ramped UP,
> > lemme know, its kinda lengthy
>
> > On Feb 24, 10:50 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Santorum Dragged Down By Support Of Bush Initiatives
>
> > > George W. Bush Still A Drag On Rick Santorum's Prospects
>
> > > WASHINGTON - In 2006, Rick Santorum was decisively tossed out of his
> > > Senate seat in Pennsylvania by 18 points, in a wave election where
> > > Democrats romped largely because of President George W. Bush's
> > > unpopularity.
>
> > > Six years later, Santorum is running for Bush's old job, but the
> > > former president is still a weight around his neck.
>
> > > Santorum was dragged down in Wednesday night's debate by his support
> > > for a few of Bush's initiatives.
>
> > > The 2002 No Child Left Behind legislation was the Bush agenda item
> > > that hurt Santorum most in the debate. Santorum said his support for
> > > the measure was "a mistake."
>
> > > "It was against the principles I believed in, but, you know, when
> > > you're part of the team, sometimes you take one for the team, for the
> > > leader," Santorum said.
>
> > > Mitt Romney, ignoring the fact that he himself supported No Child Left
> > > Behind, made hay Thursday with Santorum's ill-advised quip.
>
> > > "I wonder which team he was taking it for," Romney said at a campaign
> > > stop in Phoenix. "My team is the American people, not the insiders in
> > > Washington."
>
> > > Others said it was no mystery which team Santorum was on.
>
> > > "The team he was taking it for was President George W. Bush in his
> > > first year in office," said Bill Kristol, the founder of the
> > > conservative Weekly Standard, on Fox News.
>
> > > But Kristol said that Santorum's admission that he had erred was to
> > > the Pennsylvanian's credit, and that Romney's 2006 health care
> > > overhaul when he was governor of Massachusetts is a bigger problem for
> > > him.
>
> > > "Maybe No Child Left Behind was bad legislation. Rick Santorum said
> > > last night, 'I made a mistake.' Mitt Romney has never said about
> > > RomneyCare, 'I made a mistake.' And as a conservative, I think
> > > RomneyCare is a heck of a lot bigger mistake than the No Child Left
> > > Behind bill," Kristol said.
>
> > > Romney also dinged Santorum Wednesday for two other times that
> > > Santorum helped Bush, namely his 2004 endorsement of fellow
> > > Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter -- which was important to the White
> > > House at the time so that they kept control of the Senate -- and
> > > Bush's imposition of tariffs on imported steel in 2002.
>
> > > Santorum's steel tariff decision was driven as much by parochial
> > > self-interest as any loyalty to Bush, but it was nonetheless a
> > > controversial decision with conservatives for Bush to put the trade
> > > barriers in place, and Santorum's support -- at a time when he was the
> > > number three Republican in the Senate -- was a help to the White
> > > House.
>
> > > The way in which Bush's legacy has begun to hurt Santorum is a
> > > microcosm, some said, for how the former Republican president
> > > negatively impacted the conservative movement as a whole.
>
> > > "Santorum is a perfect example of what Bushism did to the Republican
> > > Party," said a former Senate GOP aide with detailed knowledge of
> > > Santorum's work in GOP leadership, who feels Santorum "undermine(d)
> > > fiscal conservatives."
>
> > > Many conservatives see No Child Left Behind, along with Bush's
> > > expansion of Medicare and his failure to veto any spending bills for
> > > most of his presidency -- while Republicans controlled Congress -- as
> > > betrayals of conservative belief in limited government. They believe
> > > Bush accelerated a trend of expanding the federal government that has
> > > in turn been sped up by President Barack Obama.
>
> > > A win for Santorum in next Tuesday's Michigan primary would be a
> > > game-changer, badly wounding Romney and thrusting Santorum forward
> > > into the driver's seat. But Santorum's Bush association is one of the
> > > major factors -- past statements on social issues is the other big one
> > > -- that has been a drag on his momentum this week, as Romney has moved
> > > to make up ground in the polls.
>
> > > Yet Andrew Card, who was Bush's White House chief of staff from 2001
> > > to 2006, said that Santorum was not an automatic Bush ally in every
> > > fight.
>
> > > "He was not always a dependable vote to be honest with you. We had to
> > > work hard for it," Card told The Huffington Post. "But he listened
> > > well and gave us the benefit of the doubt when we came to him with a
> > > challenge."
>
> > > On No Child Left Behind, Card said he "put Rick in the leaning
> > > favorable-skeptic category" going into the effort to pass the
> > > legislation. Santorum's caution, Card said, was based on concerns
> > > about the federal government's role in education.
>
> > > "I still think it's the right policy," Card, currently acting dean of
> > > The Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M
> > > University, said of the law.
>
> > > "It didn't always get implemented to live up to people's expectations.
> > > But it was a noble and historic reform that was brought into education
> > > that you were going to hold people accountable and have some measure
> > > of success," Card said. "It did crack the establishment to bring more
> > > accountability to it."
>
> > > More:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/23/bush-santorum-_n_1298273.htm...
>
> > > --
> > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > Have a great day,
> > > Tommy
>
> > > --
> > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > Have a great day,
> > > Tommy- Hide quoted text -
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Sunday, February 26, 2012

Re: Another day. Another apology.

Hard to believe that this article was written in the Ottowa Sun....Thanks for sharing Bear;
 


 
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Bear Bear <thatbearguy@gmail.com> wrote:
From the Ottawa Sun:


Qur'an burning contradictions


John-Robson
By John Robson ,Parliamentary Bureau


On hearing that American soldiers had burned some Korans, Afghans
erupted into randomly murderous rage. In the ensuing stone-throwing,
tire- and flag-burning and infidel-denouncing some 14 people have been
killed so far, mostly Muslim Afghans. What's that about?

It's hard to sympathize with whoever was charged with disposing of
Qur'ans at a U.S. military base in Afghanistan and decided a public
bonfire would be nicely inconspicuous. And yes, it feeds into the
stereotype of Americans oblivious to other cultures. But that said,
let me pose a few questions to the kinder, gentler multiculturalists
out there.

Barack Obama predictably groveled in a three-page written apology to
Afghan President Hamid Karzai because some idiots burned Qur'ans
thought to have been used by Taliban prisoners to exchange messages.
So will Karzai send Obama a written apology because an Afghan soldier
shot two American soldiers who weren't involved in the incident?

Or for Taliban desecrating Qur'ans by writing murder plots in them? Or
for his countrymen killing nearly 2,000 Americans and more than 150
Canadians because we came to save them from the Taliban we armed to
save them from Communism, then tried to insist that girls should go to
school without being murdered, raped or disfigured with acid?

Why do we act as if we agreed that it was worse to destroy a book than
a person? If an Afghan burned a Bible in America, or Afghanistan, how
many people would die in the ensuing riots? None, obviously.

If most Afghans found a Bible and recognized it they almost certainly
would destroy it. Quite possibly along with its owner. We don't hear
about that stuff, though, do we?

Has the President of Iraq apologized because Christians are being
murdered, terrorized and driven out of that country? Has the Saudi
King to whom Obama infamously bowed apologized because it's illegal to
build a church in his country or conduct a public Christian worship
service? Or because his predecessor King Faisal told anyone who'd
listen that Jews murdered gentiles to consume their blood on Passover?

Or, if kings are off limits, how about the Saudi imam who, in a
government mosque, reproached Palestinians for failing to enslave
Jewish women? Still waiting for that apology too. A Saudi who burned a
Bible would be lucky if they only went to jail ... for having had a
Bible.

As founding king Ibn Saud's grandfather once explained, he would
haggle over politics. "But when the question is one of religion, we
kill everybody." In Afghanistan that apparently includes not only
innocent non-Muslims, but innocent Muslims as well.

If it were an isolated incident ... I'd still be shaking my head. But
of course it isn't. Last year at least 24 Afghans were killed after an
American preacher burned a Qur'an in Florida. After. But not because.
As newspapers casually noted Friday, terrorists in Iraq killed dozens
of their fellow Muslims on Thursday alone, without a desecrated Qur'an
or any other excuse.

Then there were the infamous Danish cartoons, taken on a provocative
tour of the Middle East by Danish imams complete with added
inflammatory bogus images. In the ensuing riots dozens who were
neither Danish, nor cartoonists, nor Christians, Jews, atheists,
Buddhists, Hindus, or any other form of stinking infidel were killed
because ... uh ... why were they killed?

At the risk of ruffling Justin Trudeau's hair, I find this response
barbaric. By all means be offended if someone clumsily insults your
religion. But exhibit some self-control. Express dismay; request an
apology; ostracize the offender. But don't try to kill him, let alone
get so crazy you kill someone who is not only innocent of the original
offense but shares your outrage.

If you do, don't expect me to pretend it's not disgusting.

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