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Friday, October 7, 2011

FW: JP FW: [alwayz2gather] JI'AY BHUTTO - RAJJ KAY LUTTO - PHIR BACHON SAMET PHUTTO - LEKIN QAUM KO AQQAL NA A'AEE...

Very simple answer, experienced people are experienced in match fixing while new will be career oriented for first few years and do the job honestly.

Ghias

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From: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com [mailto:joinpakistan@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mansoor Rahim
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Salam and Good Morning to Join Pakistan members

OK The below mentioned reply want me to continue then I am ON.

First of All my dear Pakistani brothers and sisters, some the people have got my point of view and replied. A very special thanks to them.

Everyone already knows about institutions and politicians . Ziyada tar log janty hein.

I want to ask a question, those who did not understand and I want your kind attention to this question please.

Q- Lets suppose Imran Khan got the opportunity to become the Captain of Pakistan Cricket team again. OK
and what you think will he choose a person who is new to cricket, without having any practice/knowledge of game? or he will select experienced, matured and groomed crickters to face the world? As we know he (Imran) beleive in specilists. then why we cannot see any specialist and honest politician in PTI wing? Who are the best political leaders of PTI from Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar, Rawalpindi, Quetta, Multan and other cities?

COME ON PTI WE HAVE ONLY ONE YEAR FOR ELECTION, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE QUICK DECISION TO MAKE CHANGE.

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

Mansoor Rahim Zahid

Then would you vote for these fake gradutes as you did last time and who have brought the country on its knees, and have a lot of polictical experience in lotaism, chronyism, and whose only achievement is looting this country and filling their pockets. These experiences leaders with a lot of political record of deciept and deception have the following few achievements to show:

1. Pakistan Railways on the verge of collapse. A huge number of trains taken off the track. Before Government bailout they had Rs 52/- in their account. Its employees have not been paid for months.
2. Pakistan Steel which was a profitable entity a few years ago is bankrupt. Looted with both hands.
3. PIA which was a pride of the nation, which started the Singapore Airlines, the Emirates Airlines, and Malta Airlines, the former 2 are now amongt the best airlines in the world, had 3 forced landings withing 3 days, and 1/3rd of its fleet has been grounded. France has threatened that unless it improved its maintenance and safety standard immediately it would be banned from landing in Europe. It was stuffed with hordes of incompetent jialas and paid billions of rupees in arrears. It hired a DMD at a salary of Rs 14lac a month to improve maintenance and safety standards last year. The result of the improvements are before us.
4. WAPDA: the less said the better. The load and generation gap is increasing and not reducing. 3 1/2 years down the line, enough to put up new generation units, but we are exactly where we were 2 years ago. The cost of power due to theft, cost of fuel, incompetence and corruption, kunda and high transmission losses, amongst the highets in the world, have crippled our industry and in many sectors which have closed down for non competitiveness, and thousands are jobless.
5. When the PM is aked to control corruption he says there is no corruption, and if anyone thinks there is he can go to the courts. And when people go to the courts the courts are contempted and their verdicts are flouted shamelessly, and manipulated protests and processions are taken out against the courts and judiciary. Government enquiries are obstructed and honest officers, a few that are left are ostracised, hounded, shunted into sidelines or fired.
6. Those convicted of corruption are forgiven and reinstated to the prize jobs by the President. And those imprisoned are released through presidential pardons on national days. To release one such crook 5000 convictes were released by Asif Zardari last year.
7. When the country was drowning in floods last year Mr President flew off to visit his father's Chateau in France which his father had bought selling Bambino cinema tickets.
8. Government has no money to spend on the flood victims but has the money to dole out in billions to lawyers community to erode the support for the Chief Justice.
9. In the last year's floods the nation and international community donated generously. Most of that money was misappropriated. In these floods no one is willing to help.
10. The expenditure of the Presidency and the PM houses is nearly double that of their counter parts in India. The PM hose has 700 gardners.
11. Nearly every month our worthy President goas on a foreign tour living in the most expensive hotels, expenses running into crores for each trips, when people of Pakistan are deeply sinking into poverty. They ca'nt get a square meal a day.
12. His visits are so many that the Chinese are fed up. He needs just an excuse to go running to China, because he is reported to be running his private investments there.
13. Mr Zardari is our armed forces supreme commander, but has not visited the troop fighting and dying on the front lines even once. He is such a scared and fearful man.
14. Mr Gilani pays no income tax, but a wears a new Armani suit costing over a lac every day.
15. Mr Sharif pays more income tax: Rs 2500.
16. Our worthy Foreigh Minister went to India dressed like a model wearing diamonds and jewellry and carrying a designer bag which only millionaires can afford, and the country she represented was going around with a begging bowl. She made a spectacle of herself. Her Indian hosts were simply dressed. Has anyone seen Hillary Clinton dressed like that.

This is an endless list of the "record of achievement" of your experienced people who are not "new to politics". Which "quality leader" have they produced? Zardai, Gilani, Rehman Malik, Babar Awan, Nawaz Sharif, Altaf Hussain, Maulana Fazalur Rehman, Chawdhary's of Gujrat, Moonis Ilahi, etc etc etc. These dispicable louts who have pawned the future of our future generations and Pakistan has become a failed and ungovernable state at their "experienced" hands. Karachi is in a state of civil war. Political parties have become armed bands and their leaders war lords and dons. We are becoming Afghanistan and Ethiopia. The country is at the edge of a precipice.

Do you still want these experienced poltical leaders?
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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:00:11 +0500
Subject: Re: **JP** FW: [alwayz2gather] JI'AY BHUTTO - RAJJ KAY LUTTO - PHIR BACHON SAMET PHUTTO - LEKIN QAUM KO AQQAL NA A'AEE...
From: kjaved@gmail.com
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com

2011/10/1 Mansoor Rahim <mnf132@hotmail.com>

Thank you for comments and emotions. I appreciate your kind effort. but my dear can you please specify that in current situation what are the other options we have except PPP, PML-N, MQM and ANP etc. On the other hand Imran Khan is a one man Show, and most of us even do not know about the other leaders and No.2 of Tehreek-e-insaf.

Lets suppose the nation vote for independent candidates, and all those candidates win, then that particular parliment will face lots of problems to elect their leader of Parliments including (Prime Minister/Ministers/leader of opposition/speakers etc and so on. Every one will fight for themselves.

In last I must say that Imran Khan has been failed to produce quality leaders for this nation and tehreek-e-insaf. Imran Khan is having qualities of great leader, but what about his cabinet? Imran Khan has wasted last four to five years. I would not vote for a graduate who is new to politics, not familiar, no political records or achievements.

The turn over of our elections are always lower you know very well. some says (Sab chor hein) and not voting.

PAKISTAN IS THE MIRACLE OF ALLAH AND WILL COME OUT OF BAD TIMES VERY SOON.

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From: ighori@saudioger.com
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:37:30 +0300

Subject: **JP** FW: [alwayz2gather] JI'AY BHUTTO - RAJJ KAY LUTTO - PHIR BACHON SAMET PHUTTO - LEKIN QAUM KO AQQAL NA A'AEE...

I request all Pakistani nation please don't elect these kind of politician next time…like zardari and gailani can bargain their own daughters and sisters for money and dollars………

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Fwd: [New post] Skippy goes to school. Or rather skippy get’s schooled.

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Skippy goes to school. Or rather skippy get's schooled.

by Steve

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Gotta get me some of that Koolade.

Obama goes to a sixth grade class to talk to the kids to get a little PR.

After his talk he offers question time. One little boy puts up his hand and Obama asks him his name.

"Walter," responds the little boy.

"And what is your question, Walter?"

"I have 4 questions:

First, why did the USA Bomb Libya without the support of the Congress?

Second, why do you keep saying you fixed the economy when it's actually worse?

Third, why did you say that Jeremiah Wright was your mentor, then said that you knew nothing about his preaching's and beliefs?

Fourth, why are we so worried about Brazil drilling for oil, but we aren't allowed to?"

Just then, the bell rings for recess. Obama informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess.

When they resume Obama says, "OK, where were we? Oh, that's right:

question time. Who has a question?"

Another little boy puts up his hand. Obama points him out and asks him his name.

"Steve," he responds.

"And what is your question, Steve?"

Actually, I have 6 questions.

First, why did the USA Bomb Libya without the support of the Congress?

Second, why do you keep saying you fixed the economy when it's actually worse?

Third, why did you say that Jeremiah Wright was your mentor, then said that you knew nothing about his preaching's and beliefs?

Fourth, why are we so worried about Brazil drilling for oil, but we aren't allowed to?"

Fifth, why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early?

And sixth, what the F--- happened to Walter?"

Sharp kid that Steve is. LOL

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JP Israel a ‘Threat’ To Region Because Has Atomic Bomb: Erdogan

Israel a 'Threat' To Region Because Has Atomic Bomb: Erdogan

Posted: Thu, 06 Oct 2011

ANKARA: Israel is a "threat" to its region because it owns nuclear weapons, Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Wednesday.

"I right now see Israel as a threat for its region, because it has the atomic bomb," Erdogan was quoted as saying by the Anatolia news agency, during an official visit to South Africa. He also accused Israel of committing "state terrorism." Erdogan in the past has accused the West of "double standards" in the way that it has tried to ban Iran from building nuclear weapons without taking similar measures against Israel.

Israel has never officially admitting to possessing nuclear weapons.

Turkey downgraded relations with one time ally Israel after the latter refused to apologise for its raid on a Gaza-bound Turkish aid flotilla, in which nine Turkish activists died on May 31, 2010.

Last month, Turkey expelled the Israeli ambassador and froze military ties and defence trade deals. Ankara has also threatened to send warships to escort any Turkish vessels trying to reach Hamas-ruled Gaza.

Erdogan's remarks came in response to comments from an Israeli embassy diplomat in South Africa, who blamed radical Islamic organisation Hamas for launching rocket attacks into Israeli territory, said the private NTV television.

The prime minister responded that Israel bombed Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip as well as the UN buildings in Gaza with phosphorus bombs, reported NTV.

In recent months, the United States has been alarmed at the estrangement between Turkey and its closest Middle East ally Israel.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is expected to urge Turkey to defuse tension and repair strategic ties with Israel when she visits Istanbul to attend a conference on Afghanistan next month.

Clinton will visit Turkey on November 2, Marc Grossman, US special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, was quoted as saying in the Turkish media.

Source:DAWN

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JP Has the Moment Arrived? – Orya Maqbool Jan

Has the Moment Arrived? – Orya Maqbool Jan

Posted: Wed, 05 Oct 2011

by Orya Maqbool Jan

The people who do not believe in the signs, have no faith in the indications, what good is a debate with them. They only perceive results from signs which have been proved by their scientific researchers and scholars of philosophy and history. They will distinguish the illness from the symptoms of cough, fever, pain and a heavy head. They will remember to predict rain before heavy humidity. They present their rationale from the study of history, what the outcome will be in a country when there is social injustice, dictatorship, restlessness and anxiousness. They try their very best to prove their signs and prophecies. All theses indications and signs are presented in the form of a theory or an ideology. Then they are proved to be true by giving examples of events from history.

But sometimes my Allah fails their logic and science, and does not give out the same results as written in their theory. For example in some deplorable and poor nations, restlessness and anxiety does not set in, people are happy with a dictator, or sometimes despite carrying all symptoms of malaria, medical tests do not show malaria. In such scenarios they present a beautiful word, which is 'exception'. And another beautiful sentence has been invented 'exceptions do not supersede rules'. But no one is ready to accept the fact that there is a supreme being which exists and can break their rules. The being which repeatedly shows its signs that without any doubt this world is acting under a rule of law, but He, the One, the Compelling, the Powerful is not subservient to any rule or law. He can produce conditions where all our scientific knowledge is unable to decipher and understand it. In any place He can undo the system that will keep us wondering what has happened. My Allah is not hampered by cause or causality. He is the creator of causality. For giving health to the sick, prosperity to the nations, destruction of areas, annihilation of generations, He does as per His will, whenever He wills. He creates a cause. And we humans for centuries keep pondering over such cause and affect scenarios. And next time with new reasons new illnesses, new destruction and new era of peace and tranquillity is ordained by Him. 'Now again rethink and observe my signs'. We think and observe about the signs, but we do not think about the creator of these signs.

I want to talk about such signs today. The whole world which is in a state of restlessness and anxiety, and the environment of war and destruction it is living in, the one who is well off financially is in search of mental peace and tranquillity. War is imposed on the one which is in a socially deplorable condition, cruel and worst of their kind leaders do not let them live in peace. The whole world is in a state of chaos and bewilderment.

The condition which the prosperous nations are in, due to the breakage of their family system is visible from the dreadful face of the overcrowded old people's homes and the increasing population of the children born without parentage. Although 90% of opium is cultivated in Afghanistan, but more than 80% of those addicted to it are in Europe and America. Once in history male slaves used to be traded. But now loads and loads of young girls from Eastern countries, Eastern Europe and Latin America are trafficked to the wealthier countries for pleasure. For the football world cup held in Germany seventy five young women were smuggled into Germany only for the pleasure of the tourists. The tide of the population control mania gave the people such a taste of contraceptive medicines that there are eighteen countries of the world where young people are so less in number that there is no one to run their system. On the other side there is poverty and depravity, famine, the condition of famine in African countries is such that generations after generations are meeting their death in the deserts, just like animals die from a contagious disease. Strange is the fact that they are dying for a single piece of bread, whereas on the other side excess wheat is thrown in the seas after it is spoilt. There are many countries in the world where man is a victim to war. War between countries, between groups, slaughter and murders between religions and sects, everyone slaughtering each other. The strange and amazing thing is that everyone presents their logic that they are truthful and they are shedding blood rightfully.

If only for the past ten years we count the slaughter of humanity in Iraq and Afghanistan, it exceeds 1.5 million. But If you talk to the respectful leaders of the respectful countries and the best brains of the media, they will declare this mass murder as correct and just. This logic and rationale can be seen in every group in every region. The murdered belonging to my kiln was on the right path, whereas the murdered victim of others will be condemned. In the previous one thousand years of history, we have not witnessed such era, that the 6 billion residing on this earth are being constantly deceived. The murdered is declared sinful and murderer is called rightful. The world has always remained in groups. In some parts those raising the voice of the truth and siding with them were dominant, while in some those committing cruelty from the foundations of falsehood and deceit were dominant. In the war between the two, it was easy to distinguish between truth because the successful and deadly weapon of the twenty first century was not available, the media. Now on this small screen prove anyone to be false and anyone rightful. And after it is proved, pave way for the conquest and overrun, destroy and raze villages to the ground. Just observe closely this whole era, and think for a while on this Hadith of Syed ul Anbia (may peace be upon him), that have we really entered this era.

It is a tradition (rawayat) from Anas bin Malik, he said that Rasul Allah (May peace be upon him) said

'Before the advent of Dajjal, a few years will be of deceit and deception. Truthful will be made into a liar. And a liar will be made into a truthful. The dishonest (khayantdaar) will be made into a honest person (amanatdaar) and dishonest will be declared as honest and the Ruwaybidah will have a say'. Someone asked, 'Who are the Ruwaybidah?'. He (may peace be upon him) said, 'disgraced people (faasiq o faajir). They will speak in important affairs of people'. (masnad Ahmad Sand Abi layla Al Sunan Al Waradah Fi Al Nashn)

Consider this hadith of Rasul Allah (may peace be upon him) as an ideology or theory and ponder if we have entered this era.

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Fwd: {PatriotVille} Fwd: Occupy Bell Buckle

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From: Bruce Majors
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Subject: {PatriotVille} Fwd: Occupy Bell Buckle
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rofl
I am on their mailing list to spy on them and I got this
Bell Buckle is a town in Tennessee with 300 people in it

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Date: Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Subject: Occupy Bell Buckle
To: majors.bruce@gmail.com

Dear friend,

By now you've seen the thousands of brave students, workers and the unemployed occupying Wall Street.

But did you know that as of yesterday, there are over 300 solidarity "occupy events" happening across the country and around the clock?

In Philadelphia, 1,000+ individuals took to City Hall on Tuesday night.

In Washington, D.C., people have camped out in McPherson Square, symbolically located on K Street, since last week.

In L.A., citizens have spent six straight days and nights outside City Hall protesting against income inequality and joblessness.

The crowds and peaceful demonstrations will only get larger and louder as more Americans find the courage to stand up and demand Wall Street, CEOs and millionaires pay their fair share to create good jobs now.

This is the moment that determines whether this movement succeeds or falls flat. Will you pledge to help the movement spread by visiting an Occupy event in Bell Buckle? You can sign up and find a comprehensive list of events here:

http://action.seiu.org/occupy-wall-street

Over the last few weeks we've seen crowds of "Occupy Wall Street" protestors capture the nation's attention as they stood their ground despite aggressive police behavior and hundreds of arrests.

These courageous young activists have given us all a shot of inspiration and hope that we can indeed turn this country around.

We are proud of the actions taken by 1199 United Healthcare Workers East, SEIU 32BJ and other SEIU local unions to support the Wall Street protests.

But as we talk to other "Occupy" participants across the country, they tell us their first need is people.

So we're working with our friends at Daily Kos to see if we can help.

Find an Occupy event happening in your city and pledge to sign up to get involved. You can do that here:

http://action.seiu.org/occupy-wall-street

As part of a peaceful, united movement we can do so much more to demonstrate the increasing urgency of the crisis our country faces and shine a light on those responsible.

Let's go for it!

In solidarity,

Mary Kay Henry
President, SEIU

SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION

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