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Friday, September 9, 2011

Re: 15 year old punk just got a lesson on the second amendment.

I salute this young Temple University chap.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:

too bad he did not kill all three.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:40 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:

instant justice

On Sep 8, 12:22 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/stungunsandmace/> 15 year

> old punk just got a lesson on the second
> amendment.<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/15-year-old-punk-ju...>
> *Steve <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/stungunsandmace/>* |

> September 7, 2011 at 10:12 am | Categories:
> crime<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=34945349>,
> Inspirational <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=35484417>, Second
> Amendment <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=102988> | URL:http://wp.me/pKuKY-9dW
>
> <http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/smoking-gun.gif>

>
> Oops, good guy had one too.
>
> Gotta love that second amendment.
>
> Update
>
> : Here is a more recent video that lays out the shooting incident in
> northern Philadelphia<http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.9533333333,-75.17&spn=0.1,0.1&q=39....>.

> It confirms all initial reporting in the incident from yesterday, and gives
> some additional details. Eells is currently in the hospital and is expected
> to make a full recovery
>
> *A Philadelphia college student put his firearm carry permit to good use
> Monday, as he shot it out with a would-be
> robber<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery>,

> hitting him twice*
>
> watch?v=YAw4fPIRGr8
>
> Robert Eells, 21-year-old Temple University
> student<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student>,

> was in front of his off-campus house smoking a cigarette at 1:30Am Monday
> when a group of teenagers approached him and asked for money. The main
> suspect- who is 15-years old- allegedly then attempted to rob Eells, who
> refused the demand for cash.
>
> At that point, police say the suspect started shooting, and hit Eels in the
> stomach.
>
> But Eels was able to fight back. He drew his own legal pistol and fired,
> hitting the attacker in the chest and leg.
>
> School officials say Eells is recovering at Temple
> University<http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.98,-75.16&spn=1.0,1.0&q=39.98,-75.1...>Hospital.

> He had a license to carry the weapon he used and faces no charges
> in the incident.
>
> The suspect is also in the hospital, and will face aggravated
> assault<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault>and attempted robbery

> charges. Police are searching for two accomplices.
>
> *Gotta love it. ~ Steve~*
>
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Re: The lie that began the endless war on Iraq

Hey PlainOl';

We agree that our role in the world should not be, "Nation Building". It was a mistake, (and as a side note, I was opposed to the Bush Doctrine of "Nation-Building" at the time) however, to act as if in 2001-2004 that we, collectively as a Nation, including what we now know to be our intelligence gathering, both secured/classifed and what was released to the general public; is revisionist. Saddam was a threat to this Nation as well as to the whole Middle East/Southwest Asian region.

Dr. Paul is so far off base with his revisionist anti-war rhetoric. Paul is an isolationist. This has nothing to do with "Nation Building"; it has to do with protecting our interests. We have viable, valid interests in the region, and it is our inherent right to protect those interests. Whether you like those interests.....Or Not.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:39 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:

the fact that
Saddam Hussien was attempting to expand his missile capabilities to
strike
further around the world; the fact that Saddam Hussein had poisoned
thousands of his own countrymen with poisonous gas, and tens of
thousands of
Iranians; and the fact that Saddam Hussein did this all before either
of the
Bush presidencies, (which is not at all accurate either) somehow
discounts
Saddam Hussein as being a threat?

---
it goes back to the failed intervention policy again
the USA is not the world police and shouldn't be in the nation
building business

On Sep 6, 5:08 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't get anything with your link.
>
> And let's make sure we are following your logic. The fact that Saddam
> Hussein possessed five hundred tons of yellow cake, and was consistently
> looking for more uranium in several parts of the world; the fact that
> Saddam Hussien was attempting to expand his missile capabilities to strike
> further around the world; the fact that Saddam Hussein had poisoned
> thousands of his own countrymen with poisonous gas, and tens of thousands of
> Iranians; and the fact that Saddam Hussein did this all before either of the
> Bush presidencies, (which is not at all accurate either) somehow discounts
> Saddam Hussein as being a threat?
>
> Moonbattery 101.
>

> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just in case you haven't seen it, I post it for the hundreth time....
> > please read the summaries at the end of each section.
> > They say your letter is a crock.
>
> > Senate intelligence report on Iraq...full and un-abridged version.
>
> > http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a.pdf
>
> > On Sep 6, 8:13 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just in case you might not have seen it, I post it once again:
>
> > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > Just off the top of my head, here's a couple:
>
> > > >http://articles.cnn.com/2008-07-07/us/iraq.uranium_1_yellowcake-urani.
> > ..
>
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack
>
> > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, plainolamerican <
> > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> .....Just revisionist historians with agenda
> > > >> ----
> > > >> no, just historical facts
>
> > > >>http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
>
> > > >> the US interventionist policy is a complete failure and gets American
> > > >> soldiers needlessly killed
>
> > > >> U.S. imperialism in the Middle East has always been primarily
> > > >> responsible for upholding backward, dictatorial regimes that, without
> > > >> its help, would have been overthrown long ago. Middle East specialist
> > > >> Dilip Hiro spelled it out: "It is much simpler to manipulate a few
> > > >> ruling families (and to secure fat orders for arms and ensure that oil
> > > >> prices remain low) than a wide variety of personalities and policies
> > > >> bound to be thrown up by a democratic system." But such brutality
> > > >> always provokes a reaction--as the new Intifada shows. "If history is
> > > >> any guide," writes Michael Hudson, "hegemony by the United States or
> > > >> any other party in the Middle East tends to produce resistance." That
> > > >> resistance is back--not just in the Intifada in Palestine, but in the
> > > >> large sympathy demonstrations throughout the region.
> > > >> U.S. Intervention in the Middle East: Blood for Oil
> > > >> By Paul D'Amato
> > > >> 1991
>
> > > >> On Sep 5, 9:32 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > The problem is with Paul's theory, is that there is no lie......Just
> > > >> > revisionist historians with agenda, (*e.g*.: "Isolationism") like
> > > >> Paul.
>
> > > >> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:03 AM, plainolamerican
> > > >> > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > >> > > the lies that keep the US military in the middle east never end
>
> > > >> > > we know who is telling the lies and who they represent
>
> > > >> > > some don't forget
>
> > > >> > > On Sep 4, 7:26 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > >> > > > The lie that began the endless war on IraqSeptember 4, 2011
> > > >> byJeffrey
> > > >> > > Tucker
> > > >> > > > Wikileaks confirms everything.
> > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGKEnwhcScg&feature=player_embedded
>
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> > > 176KViewDownload
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Re: The lie that began the endless war on Iraq

the fact that
Saddam Hussien was attempting to expand his missile capabilities to
strike
further around the world; the fact that Saddam Hussein had poisoned
thousands of his own countrymen with poisonous gas, and tens of
thousands of
Iranians; and the fact that Saddam Hussein did this all before either
of the
Bush presidencies, (which is not at all accurate either) somehow
discounts
Saddam Hussein as being a threat?
---
it goes back to the failed intervention policy again
the USA is not the world police and shouldn't be in the nation
building business

On Sep 6, 5:08 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't get anything with your link.
>
> And let's make sure we are following your logic. The fact that Saddam
> Hussein possessed five hundred tons of yellow cake, and was consistently
> looking for more uranium in several parts of the world; the fact that
> Saddam Hussien was attempting to expand his missile capabilities to strike
> further around the world; the fact that Saddam Hussein had poisoned
> thousands of his own countrymen with poisonous gas, and tens of thousands of
> Iranians; and the fact that Saddam Hussein did this all before either of the
> Bush presidencies, (which is not at all accurate either) somehow discounts
> Saddam Hussein as being a threat?
>
> Moonbattery 101.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just in case you haven't seen it, I post it for the hundreth time....
> > please read the summaries at the end of each section.
> > They say your letter is a crock.
>
> > Senate intelligence report on Iraq...full and un-abridged version.
>
> > http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a.pdf
>
> > On Sep 6, 8:13 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just in case you might not have seen it, I post it once again:
>
> > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > Just off the top of my head, here's a couple:
>
> > > >http://articles.cnn.com/2008-07-07/us/iraq.uranium_1_yellowcake-urani.
> > ..
>
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack
>
> > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, plainolamerican <
> > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> .....Just revisionist historians with agenda
> > > >> ----
> > > >> no, just historical facts
>
> > > >>http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
>
> > > >> the US interventionist policy is a complete failure and gets American
> > > >> soldiers needlessly killed
>
> > > >> U.S. imperialism in the Middle East has always been primarily
> > > >> responsible for upholding backward, dictatorial regimes that, without
> > > >> its help, would have been overthrown long ago. Middle East specialist
> > > >> Dilip Hiro spelled it out: "It is much simpler to manipulate a few
> > > >> ruling families (and to secure fat orders for arms and ensure that oil
> > > >> prices remain low) than a wide variety of personalities and policies
> > > >> bound to be thrown up by a democratic system." But such brutality
> > > >> always provokes a reaction--as the new Intifada shows. "If history is
> > > >> any guide," writes Michael Hudson, "hegemony by the United States or
> > > >> any other party in the Middle East tends to produce resistance." That
> > > >> resistance is back--not just in the Intifada in Palestine, but in the
> > > >> large sympathy demonstrations throughout the region.
> > > >> U.S. Intervention in the Middle East: Blood for Oil
> > > >> By Paul D'Amato
> > > >> 1991
>
> > > >> On Sep 5, 9:32 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > The problem is with Paul's theory, is that there is no lie......Just
> > > >> > revisionist historians with agenda, (*e.g*.: "Isolationism") like
> > > >> Paul.
>
> > > >> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:03 AM, plainolamerican
> > > >> > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > >> > > the lies that keep the US military in the middle east never end
>
> > > >> > > we know who is telling the lies and who they represent
>
> > > >> > > some don't forget
>
> > > >> > > On Sep 4, 7:26 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > >> > > > The lie that began the endless war on IraqSeptember 4, 2011
> > > >> byJeffrey
> > > >> > > Tucker
> > > >> > > > Wikileaks confirms everything.
> > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGKEnwhcScg&feature=player_embedded
>
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> > > 176KViewDownload
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Cyberhijackers Pose Threat to Planes, Trains and Automobiles

Cyberhijackers Pose Threat to Planes, Trains and Automobiles Sep 7, 2011 | 6:10 PM ET | By John R. Quain, SecurityNewsDaily Contributor

http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/911-cyberhijacking-planes-trains-automobiles-1129/

The horrific Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks involved weaponized airliners that were hijacked using brutal, low-tech tactics. But the rapid advances in technology of the last 10 years may mean that tomorrow's threats to planes, trains and automobiles could come not from armed terrorists, but from stealthy hackers.

The connection between terrorist organizations and cybercriminals exists, say experts, not only in online underground marketplaces where hacking tools are sold, but also in areas of recruitment and training.

Some unfriendly countries are working on so-called cyberwarfare programs, and there are also "al-Qaida cells that are acting as training centers for hackers," said Alan Paller, director of research at the SANS Institute, an information-security training firm based in Bethesda, Md.

Those attackers will have more targets than ever, security firm McAfee noted in a report released last week [http://www.mcafee.com/us/resources/reports/rp-caution-malware-ahead.pdf ]. The report cited the mobile-phone maker Ericsson's estimate that by 2020, there will be roughly 50 billion devices connected to the Internet, including airport kiosks, industrial control systems and remote network-monitoring devices.

The perceived threat to these and other systems is rising.

Mounting evidence

Last week, the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a security bulletin from the National Cybersecurity and Communications Integration Center warning the security community about new tools and new recruitment techniques being used by various hacker groups.

The report refers to such organizations as soliciting help from disaffected employees, as well as using more nefarious methods, including forcing people to cooperate with hackers using "unwilling coercion through embarrassment or blackmail."

While the possibility of actually incapacitating an individual plane and causing it to crash via computer remains remote, say experts, hackers can disrupt flights and create potentially life-threatening situations.

In 2004, malware known as the Sasser worm disrupted flights when it infected systems that Delta Air Lines relied upon. Since then, the tools for creating such havoc have become more sophisticated — and more accessible.

The DHS warning included references to new tools being used by politically motivated "hacktivist" groups such as Anonymous. Powerful administrative tools, such as the "Low Orbit Ion Cannon," have been repurposed to bring down systems using distributed denial-of-service attacks. While such attacks are rudimentary, they could cause serious problems if directed at critical transportation systems.

Gaping vulnerabilities

Such networks remain frighteningly vulnerable, say law enforcement watchers. As one example, a congressional report on cyberterrorism cited the 2002 case in which a major weakness in the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) was discovered that could have been exploited to bring down "major portions of the Internet."

The vulnerability was kept a secret while security firms worked to protect telecommunications equipment around the world. According to FBI reports at the time, if the systems had not been patched, they could have been used to interrupt control information exchanged between ground and aircraft flight control systems.

Similar outages in telecommunications systems and embedded systems could be used to disrupt train and track switching information.

"For example, some rail systems are based on SCADA [supervisory control and data acquisition] control systems," said Tim Armstrong, a malware researcher at Moscow-based Kaspersky Lab. "These are similar to the types of control systems that were compromised in the Stuxnet attacks in 2010."

But the newest and most unpredictable weaknesses today appear to be in the connected systems embedded in late-model cars.

Several vulnerabilities in remote start, locking, tracking and other car systems have already been demonstrated. Computer security researchers at iSec Partners, for example, have shown how they can unlock a car and turn on its engine using a laptop computer.

The researchers managed this hack with a few hours' work tapping into the car's wireless connections. Another security expert has demonstrated how to tap into a police car's camera and video recorder.

Such attacks already have a name: war texting. Mobile car apps that use a driver's smartphone are potential targets in many of these cases as well, according to McAfee's report, "Caution: Malware Ahead."

Analysts at the firm stress that while no such cases have yet occurred, critical car systems could be vulnerable. One example: remote vehicle immobilization and slow-down systems, such as those used in GM's OnStar, could be hacked. Though they were intended as theft deterrents, if control of these systems fell into the wrong hands, it could lead to disastrous results.

Re: 15 year old punk just got a lesson on the second amendment.

too bad he did not kill all three.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:40 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:

instant justice

On Sep 8, 12:22 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/stungunsandmace/> 15 year

> old punk just got a lesson on the second
> amendment.<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/15-year-old-punk-ju...>
> *Steve <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/stungunsandmace/>* |

> September 7, 2011 at 10:12 am | Categories:
> crime<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=34945349>,
> Inspirational <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=35484417>, Second
> Amendment <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=102988> | URL:http://wp.me/pKuKY-9dW
>
> <http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/smoking-gun.gif>

>
> Oops, good guy had one too.
>
> Gotta love that second amendment.
>
> Update
>
> : Here is a more recent video that lays out the shooting incident in
> northern Philadelphia<http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.9533333333,-75.17&spn=0.1,0.1&q=39....>.

> It confirms all initial reporting in the incident from yesterday, and gives
> some additional details. Eells is currently in the hospital and is expected
> to make a full recovery
>
> *A Philadelphia college student put his firearm carry permit to good use
> Monday, as he shot it out with a would-be
> robber<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery>,

> hitting him twice*
>
> watch?v=YAw4fPIRGr8
>
> Robert Eells, 21-year-old Temple University
> student<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student>,

> was in front of his off-campus house smoking a cigarette at 1:30Am Monday
> when a group of teenagers approached him and asked for money. The main
> suspect- who is 15-years old- allegedly then attempted to rob Eells, who
> refused the demand for cash.
>
> At that point, police say the suspect started shooting, and hit Eels in the
> stomach.
>
> But Eels was able to fight back. He drew his own legal pistol and fired,
> hitting the attacker in the chest and leg.
>
> School officials say Eells is recovering at Temple
> University<http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.98,-75.16&spn=1.0,1.0&q=39.98,-75.1...>Hospital.

> He had a license to carry the weapon he used and faces no charges
> in the incident.
>
> The suspect is also in the hospital, and will face aggravated
> assault<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault>and attempted robbery

> charges. Police are searching for two accomplices.
>
> *Gotta love it. ~ Steve~*
>
> Add a comment to this
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