Re: FEC Prepared to UnConstitutionally Permit another Muslim, non-Natural Born Citizen run for President

Raising donations for something you can not do is fraud. Plain and simple. 

Don't political candidates have regulations for donations that are left over after they drop out of or loose a race? 

Could he just be raising money to give it to someone else after he drops out?

Or worse could he keep it?

Bear

On 30 August 2011 11:07, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't see a problem.... the restriction is against holding the
office, not running for office.

On Aug 30, 2:11 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  **
>
> B: How can the FEC consider this switch is a direct violation of the
> Constitution ??? Because a president has already been illegally allowed?
> Where this****
>
> has taken place with the election of BHO. And who is it that is thinking
> about it ??? Another Muslim........ and we sit still for this crap ???****
>
> WTF is going on ??? Soon any foreigner who becomes a citizen who may owe
> allegiance to someone else other than the US can run for prez........Wide***
> *
>
> distribution please, this is no joke............****
>
> ** **
>
> -m****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.rollcall.com/news/fec_drafts_opinions_for_guyana_born_man_...
> ****
>
> ** **
> FEC Drafts Opinions for Guyana-Born Man About Presidential Run****
>
> **·         **By Alex Knott <http://www.rollcall.com/reporters/54.html> ****
>
> **·         **Roll Call Staff****
>
> ** **
>
> The Federal Election Commission is showing signs that it might allow a
> Guyana-born American citizen to file papers and raise money to run for
> president of the United States. ****
>
> The agency released two draft advisory
> opinions<http://saos.nictusa.com/aodocs/1185406.pdf>Friday that could
> permit New York lawyer Abdul Hassan to go through the
> initial steps to run for president. But the FEC's pending decision won't be
> the last word on the constitutional issue of whether someone born outside
> the United States can be president.****
>
> Hassan was born in the South American country in 1974, and he asked the FEC
> in July<http://www.rollcall.com/news/guyana_born_man_asks_fec_if_he_can_run_f...>whether
> he could raise funds as a candidate for president.
> ****
>
> The request put the FEC in the rare role of deciding a large constitutional
> issue that has only a few intersections with campaign finance law. The two
> commonly held constitutional requirements to run for president are that the
> candidate be 35 years or older and be a "natural born citizen." ****
>
> The agency quickly signaled that it would decide the technicalities of
> filing requirements while leaving the broader issue of who can run for
> president to the judicial branch. In an email to Hassan on July 18, the FEC
> stated that he understood "that although the Commission can respond to the
> questions asked in [his] advisory opinion, the Commission cannot make any
> determination as to whether [Hassan] can, as a naturalized citizen, serve as
> President."****
>
> Both advisory opinions answer three of Hassan's four questions in a similar
> way. They state that Hassan could be a candidate, may solicit funds and
> would be required to file disclosure reports. But the two opinions differ on
> whether he may receive federal matching funds. ****
>
> The first draft states that Hassan would not be allowed to receive matching
> funds because "the United States Constitution provides that '[n]o Person
> except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the
> time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office
> of President.'" ****
>
> The second draft ducks the issue, stating that the "Commission expresses no
> opinion regarding this question" because it is a "hypothetical."****
>
> The FEC is slated to discuss and possibly vote on the draft opinions at an
> open meeting Thursday. Four of the six commissioners must support an opinion
> for it to be approved.****
>
> Hassan told Roll Call that he has almost no political background but is a
> "political junkie" with various legislative ideas.****
>
> "I follow politics closely, but I have never held elected office," he said.
> "I would admit that I am not well-known, and I would admit that my chances
> of winning are not as good as other candidates. That's obvious."****
>
> Although Hassan said he sees the far-reaching implications of his FEC
> request for future candidates, he said he did not make his request as a
> response to long-refuted claims that President Barack Obama was not born in
> America.****
>
> "I wasn't even thinking about the birthers, though I am ideologically
> opposed to people on the birther side of the argument," he said.****
>
> ** **

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Fwd: |World-wide_Politics| Seismic evidence reveals nuclear detonation in DC caused earthquakes...from PC World news

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Date: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 6:50 PM
Subject: |World-wide_Politics| Seismic evidence reveals nuclear detonation in DC caused earthquakes...from PC World news
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The last two paragraphs are not visible at the link where the story
is posted. I accidentally found them when I copied and pasted the info.

Please... read the rest of the story... below in yellow highlighter...

Reporting.
R.E. Sutherland, M.Ed./sciences
Freelance Investigative Science Reporter
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QUOTE

Seismic evidence reveals underground nuclear detonation south of
Washington DC.
Posted by PC World news Wednesday, August 24th, 2011

Seismology charts are now revealing that the 5.8 magnitude tremor
that rattled the entire East Coast including Washington DC was not a
natural earthquake but an earthquake that resulted from an
underground nuclear detonation. The image above is a seismograph
from Washington and Lee University, (similar one found on
www2.tricities.com website) about 85 miles southwest of the
earthquake's epicenter in Mineral. The green lines indicates the
tremor that was felt in Washington DC which caused damaged to the
Washington Memorial and the Washington National Cathedral. The black
lines is a transparent overlay of a seismograph from a pdf file from
Virginia Division Mineral Resources on Earthquakes. That file
describes a typical natural occurring earthquake as:

"When a fault ruptures, energy is released in the form of seismic
waves. The first waves to reach the earth's surface are primary or
"P" waves (Figure 2). P waves are compressional waves that travel at
a speed of about four miles per second near the surface – faster as
depth increases. The next waves to reach the earth's surface are
secondary or "S" waves. S waves are shear waves that move at a speed
of about 1.5 miles per second. P and S waves are body waves that
travel through the earth much like sonar waves travel through water.
Surface waves, which are slower than S waves, travel along the
surface of the earth much like waves at the surface of the ocean. S
waves and surface waves cause the most destruction at the earth's
surface."

What is missing from the seismograph for the Washington DC area 5.8
magnitude earthquake are the primary or "P" waves. All earthquakes
that are the direct result of fault rupture have these primary or "P"
waves. Nuclear detonations do not. Underground nuclear detonations
are very violent and immediate with no forewarnings whatsoever. An
underground detonation would account for the missing "P" seismic
waves for the Washington DC 5.8 magnitude earthquake. If you've ever
witnessed a controlled demolition of a building you would no doubt
describe the earth tremors as millions of people are now describing
what it felt like on August 23, 2011 all along the East coast.

Air Force tunnel boring machine links deep underground military bases
across U.S.

I was pointed to this overlooked piece of evidence by someone who
claimed to be with the United States Air Force. The story submission
appeared to be sent by mistake as nothing was visible in the body of
the submission. Instead of sending it to the trash I thought I would
apply an old intelligence trick I was taught back in 1989. I right
clicked my mouse on the body of the submission and selected all, then
copy. I then opened up the notepad and selected paste from the
menu. You would expect nothing to be pasted as there was nothing in
the body of the submission but, just as I thought, a paragraph was
pasted into the notepad. What was revealed was 1 paragraph whereby
who ever sent it stated he was a member of the United States Air
Force. He stated that the Virginia 5.8 magnitude earth "wasn't a
natural earthquake and not a HAARP earthquake". He told me to find a
seismograph of the Washington DC area earthquake and compare it to a
past earthquake. Then he stated that I should Google DUMB or Deep
Underground Military Bases. He ended by stating "the ABC warnings
are real". I tried to trace the IP of the submission but they don't
exists.

Based on the discrepancy between a natural earthquake and an
underground nuclear detonation (used seismographs from the North
Korea underground nuclear detonation and past U.S. underground
nuclear tests), it would appear that yes there was an earthquake but
an earthquake created as a result of an underground nuclear
detonation. It would also appear that the United States Air Force
has intercepted a nuclear bomb that was being transported via the
deep underground tunnel systems that links secret deep underground
military bases across the United States, to Washington DC. It would
appear that some people in the United States Air Force are taking
action to prevent another false flag attack on US soil. It is good
to know that there are still people in the United States military who
are upholding their oath to defend the United States from all its
enemies, both foreign and domestic.

U.S. military personnel, dedicated to protecting the United States,
its people and the United States Constitution have intercepted CIA/
MOSSAD nukes that were in transit from the CIA's underground Denver
base to Washington DC on August 23, 2011. The CIA/MOSSAD were
transporting the nukes underground in tunnels built by the United
States Air Force that connects secret underground bases throughout
the United States. In case of a cataclysmic natural disaster or
nuclear attack the United States government now has the means to go
underground and stay underground for weeks, months, years or until
such time as it is safe to return to the surface. Those tunnels
makes it possible for the president and a handful of others to escape
Washington DC via underground to other parts of the country not
affected by a natural cataclysmic disaster or nuclear attack.

The U.S. military allowed the nukes to be transported out of Denver
(the CIA base is under Denver International Airport) to what they
call safe areas. Safe areas were preselected to minimize the damage
and nuclear fallout should the people that were transferring the
nukes prematurely detonated the nukes. The two earthquakes that
struck the U.S. yesterday August 23, 2011 were the result of the U.S.
military efforts to prevent another false flag attack against the
United States. Thanks to those brave men and women those nukes were
intercepted in scarcely populated remote areas.

The first interception took place outside of Trinidad and under a
mountain and the second interception took place under farmland 84
miles SW of Washington DC. No major damage has been reported above
ground.

Short URL: http://presscore.ca/2011/?p

db - when I tried to access the site above this is what I got:

A username and password are being requested by http://presscore.ca. The site says: "Authorization required"

I had an email that was what happened in Sumatra that killed a quarter million folks - I did not forward that email because I didn't believe it - now there are others. I don't think you were on my list at the time, so it had to be someone else - so far no one admitted sending it.

These folks are lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rut, I no longer put these type actions beneath them.

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Re: FEC Prepared to UnConstitutionally Permit another Muslim, non-Natural Born Citizen run for President

I don't see a problem.... the restriction is against holding the
office, not running for office.

On Aug 30, 2:11 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  **
>
> B: How can the FEC consider this switch is a direct violation of the
> Constitution ??? Because a president has already been illegally allowed?
> Where this****
>
> has taken place with the election of BHO. And who is it that is thinking
> about it ??? Another Muslim........ and we sit still for this crap ???****
>
> WTF is going on ??? Soon any foreigner who becomes a citizen who may owe
> allegiance to someone else other than the US can run for prez........Wide***
> *
>
> distribution please, this is no joke............****
>
> ** **
>
> -m****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.rollcall.com/news/fec_drafts_opinions_for_guyana_born_man_...
> ****
>
> ** **
> FEC Drafts Opinions for Guyana-Born Man About Presidential Run****
>
> **·         **By Alex Knott <http://www.rollcall.com/reporters/54.html> ****
>
> **·         **Roll Call Staff****
>
> ** **
>
> The Federal Election Commission is showing signs that it might allow a
> Guyana-born American citizen to file papers and raise money to run for
> president of the United States. ****
>
> The agency released two draft advisory
> opinions<http://saos.nictusa.com/aodocs/1185406.pdf>Friday that could
> permit New York lawyer Abdul Hassan to go through the
> initial steps to run for president. But the FEC's pending decision won't be
> the last word on the constitutional issue of whether someone born outside
> the United States can be president.****
>
> Hassan was born in the South American country in 1974, and he asked the FEC
> in July<http://www.rollcall.com/news/guyana_born_man_asks_fec_if_he_can_run_f...>whether
> he could raise funds as a candidate for president.
> ****
>
> The request put the FEC in the rare role of deciding a large constitutional
> issue that has only a few intersections with campaign finance law. The two
> commonly held constitutional requirements to run for president are that the
> candidate be 35 years or older and be a "natural born citizen." ****
>
> The agency quickly signaled that it would decide the technicalities of
> filing requirements while leaving the broader issue of who can run for
> president to the judicial branch. In an email to Hassan on July 18, the FEC
> stated that he understood "that although the Commission can respond to the
> questions asked in [his] advisory opinion, the Commission cannot make any
> determination as to whether [Hassan] can, as a naturalized citizen, serve as
> President."****
>
> Both advisory opinions answer three of Hassan's four questions in a similar
> way. They state that Hassan could be a candidate, may solicit funds and
> would be required to file disclosure reports. But the two opinions differ on
> whether he may receive federal matching funds. ****
>
> The first draft states that Hassan would not be allowed to receive matching
> funds because "the United States Constitution provides that '[n]o Person
> except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the
> time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office
> of President.'" ****
>
> The second draft ducks the issue, stating that the "Commission expresses no
> opinion regarding this question" because it is a "hypothetical."****
>
> The FEC is slated to discuss and possibly vote on the draft opinions at an
> open meeting Thursday. Four of the six commissioners must support an opinion
> for it to be approved.****
>
> Hassan told Roll Call that he has almost no political background but is a
> "political junkie" with various legislative ideas.****
>
> "I follow politics closely, but I have never held elected office," he said.
> "I would admit that I am not well-known, and I would admit that my chances
> of winning are not as good as other candidates. That's obvious."****
>
> Although Hassan said he sees the far-reaching implications of his FEC
> request for future candidates, he said he did not make his request as a
> response to long-refuted claims that President Barack Obama was not born in
> America.****
>
> "I wasn't even thinking about the birthers, though I am ideologically
> opposed to people on the birther side of the argument," he said.****
>
> ** **

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First an Aunt...Now an Uncle.....Go Obama!!!!

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FRAMINGHAM, Mass. -- President Obama's uncle was stopped on suspicion
of drunken driving, told police he planned to arrange bail through the
White House, and was being held without bail on an immigration
detainer, authorities said Monday.

Onyango Obama, 67, was arrested last week in Framingham, about 20
miles west of Boston. Police said he did not completely stop at a stop
sign and nearly caused a cruiser to strike his sport utility vehicle.

Police said that after being booked at the police station, Mr. Obama
was asked whether he wanted to make a telephone call to arrange for
bail.

"I think I will call the White House," he stated, according to a
police report filed in Framingham District Court.

Police said Mr. Obama, who is originally from Kenya and is the half-
brother of the President's late father, pleaded not guilty Friday and
was being held without bail on a detainer from U.S. Immigration and
Customs Enforcement. In a court document, ICE said he had an earlier
deportation or removal order.

His immigration status could not be confirmed immediately. Such orders
are generally reserved for people living in the country illegally.

An immigration detainer, used by ICE to identify people in jail or
prison who could be deported, is a request to another law enforcement
agency to notify ICE before releasing the person from custody so ICE
can arrange to take over custody.

A spokesman for ICE declined to comment on Mr. Obama's immigration
case, and the White House had no comment.

Mr. Obama was charged with operating under the influence of alcohol,
negligent operation of a motor vehicle, and failure to yield the right
of way.

Officer Val Krishtal said Mr. Obama registered 0.14 percent on a blood-
alcohol breath test, which is above the state's legal driving limit of
0.08 percent.

Michael Rogers, a spokesman for Cleveland immigration attorney
Margaret Wong, said Ms. Wong will represent Mr. Obama. He confirmed
that Mr. Obama is the half-brother of the President's father. as well
as the brother of Zeituni Onyango of Boston.

She made headlines last year when she won the right to stay in the
United States after a deportation order. She came to the United States
from Kenya in 2000 and was denied asylum by an immigration judge in
2004.

She stayed in the country illegally. She was granted asylum last year
by a judge.

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The Best Ron Paul Interview Ever?

The Best Ron Paul Interview Ever?
Ron Paul schools neocon Chris Wallace, who is suddenly respectful of his surge

Ron Paul joins Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday to discuss his rise in the mainstream presidental polls (to #3 on the latest Gallup) and the hot issues of the day. It is impossible not to notice how these interviews have changed. The normally belligerent neocon host was respectful as Ron smoothly and convincingly stated his positions.

Since this interview coincided with the media hysteria about Hurricane Irene, Wallace first asked Ron why he was opposed to FEMA. As the representative of a Gulf Coast district, Ron knows full-well the damage the weather can do. Indeed, he says: "It has the worst reputation for a bureaucracy ever. It hinders local people keeps people away from their homes. It's a system of central economic planning that is deeply flawed.....and it's broke."

Ron also rips the US intervention in Libya. He schools Wallace about the consequences of our destructive foreign policy. When asked about Gaddafi, Ron reminds him that "we've been very bad at picking dictators around the world. We may be delivering al-Qaida another prize."

Regarding Austrian economics – which Ron is actually asked about – he describes his solution for a healthy economy as, government "hands off, free markets, property rights, no bailouts, and sound money." The Fed has caused endless problems with its policy of keeping interest rates artificially too low for too long. It has to stop monetizing debt.

When asked if he's in it to win it, Ron says Yes – but he wants to take a different approach – Not to seek power, but to seek to diminish it, to diminish dependency on government. People are waking up and saying "Ron Paul is right," he notes. Darn right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b5fj0eR3sg&feature=player_embedded