Wednesday, May 18, 2011

Re: Empty Ritual is stymieing America’s hopes

J. Ashley: Has anyone posted any comments in support of your caveman
anarchy? Ha, ha, HA! — J. A. A. —
>
On May 16, 5:42 pm, Jonathan <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> I find it extremely interesting that the only comments on John's New
> Constitution come from those who are able to poke holes in it. I have
> yet to see anyone post any comments in support of his diatribe.
>
> On 05/16/2011 01:41 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > Do this MJ:  Spend nearly 15 years of your life pinning and polishing
> > a New Constitution.  On the day of the referendum, the voters will get
> > to decide whose has the most appeal to them.  Your ideas of the worth
> > of my document don't matter.  ï¿½ J. A. A. �
> > On May 16, 2:11 pm, MJ<micha...@america.net>  wrote:
> >> Again you attempt to change the subject.
> >> Whether I read or have read Atlas Shrugged is irrelevant ... just like the remainder of your response.
> >> Regard$,
> >> --MJ "It is not the business of government to make men virtuous or religious or to preserve the fool from the consequences of his own folly. Government should be repressive no further than is necessary to secure liberty by protecting the equal rights of each from aggression...[when] governmental prohibitions extend beyond this line they are in danger of defeating the very ends they are intended to serve" --Henry GeorgeAt 07:44 PM 5/12/2011, you wrote:MJ:  You should read 'Atlas Shrugged.'  Government could NEVER
> >> orchestrate an entire economy, the way "the law of supply and demand"
> >> can.  Our biggest problem with government is that those out-of-touch,
> >> career politicians have zero real-world experience.  They actually
> >> BELIEVE that they are necessary to determine how everything on Earth
> >> gets done.  Within four total years of the ratification my New
> >> Constitution there won't be a single "career path" politician in
> >> Washington!  ï¿½ J. A. A. �
> >> On May 12, 1:47 pm, MJ<micha...@america.net>  wrote:
> >>> At 08:18 PM 5/11/2011, you wrote:Dear Jonathan:  No!  Only "schemes" that have the strings being pulled
> >>> by government would be socialist.  My New Constitution includes these
> >>> and other protections to require "fairness" (not... equality) from
> >>> businesses:
> >>> Government REQUIRING any business, individual, collection of individuals that serves ANYTHING other than securing EVERYONE's right to life; their own life; self-ownership serves to provide advantage to some at the expense of others AND necessarily interferes with the use of one's private property -- you know, socialism.
> >>> You STILL do not see how you are endorsing and promoting what you claim to be eliminating."Businesses and professions shall be fair to their employees and to
> >>> their customers.  The wages, benefits and perks, as well as the
> >>> charges that are made for goods and services, shall not be
> >>> discriminatory nor exploitive of any person, group nor class, nor
> >>> shall such be overly influenced by the profit motive of those who
> >>> perform no actual work on an ongoing basis.  Fair and honest business
> >>> practices require that management be forthright with employees and
> >>> customers without coercion."
> >>> This is socialism in any of its many forms.
> >>> Take 'discriminatory' -- which necessarily occurs whenever more than one person seeks an available position ...
> >>> What about the discrimination against the Business Owner that occurs when people choose NOT to work for him?And... "Only laws, rules, regulations and procedures that are in the
> >>> best interest of the People and the world environment shall be passed,
> >>> enacted or enforced, and no business contrary to such shall be allowed
> >>> to prosper."
> >>> MORE Socialism in any of its many forms.
> >>> Regard$,
> >>> --MJ"Daily experience proves clearly to everybody but the most bigoted fanatics of socialism that governmental management is inefficient and wasteful" -- Ludwig von Mises in "Economic Freedom and Interventionism," 1990.
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>       Freedom is always illegal!
>
> When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we
> declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we
> have any possibility of being free.
>
> "Why should we bother with 'realities' when we have the psychological
> refuge of unthinking patriotism?"
> Gary Leupp - Professor of History, Tufts University

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Re: Empty Ritual is stymieing America’s hopes

J. Ashley: By my New Constitution, patriotic Americans will TELL
government that having maximum civil liberties (freedoms) is a
requirement. At no point have I asked anyone for anything! In the
most demonstrative ways possible, I tell (define) what government must
do, or 'how high to jump' when the people speak! — John A. Armistead
— Patriot
>
On May 16, 5:40 pm, Jonathan <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> John's sheer arrogance rises to the surface once again! It seems no one
> will ever be as good as John - at least in John's mind.
>
> On 05/16/2011 01:38 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > You will never best me at anything, MJ, because you
> > simply don't measure up.
>
> --
>
>       Freedom is always illegal!
>
> When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we
> declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we
> have any possibility of being free.
>
> "Why should we bother with 'realities' when we have the psychological
> refuge of unthinking patriotism?"
> Gary Leupp - Professor of History, Tufts University

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Re: Pakistani newspaper - US tried to give impression of Pakistan's involvement in Abbottabad operation

now the pakis are saying they will fire on the US if they attempt to
go after the taliban inside pakistan again

they're either with us or against us

burning them out would be acceptable

On May 17, 3:11 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> http://www.thenewstribe.com/2011/05/17/abbottabad-operation-us-tried-...

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Re: ACLU Threatens High School over graduation at Christian-owned Auditorium - ACLU is looking ridiculous over this one

never forget who runs the ACLU and who they represent

On May 17, 1:44 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Quote
> A New Jersey high school with a 70-year tradition of hosting graduation
> ceremonies in a historic auditorium is standing firm against legal
> threats from the American Civil Liberties Union, which claims the event
> violates the separation of church and state because of the
> Christian-owned site's religious displays.
>
> For generations, graduates of Neptune High School have walked down the
> aisle of the Great Auditorium in Ocean Grove, where the impressive
> 6,500-seat venue dominates the landscape of one of the area s most
> historic beach towns. Built in 1894, the auditorium is owned and
> operated by the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association, a Methodist group
> that owns not just the building, but all of the land beneath every home
> and structure in town.
>
> The ACLU of New Jersey threatened legal action against the Neptune
> school district after an attendee at last year s graduation ceremony
> took offense to the building s religious symbols and Christian-based
> references -- among them a 20-foot white cross above the auditorium s
> entrance. The ACLU asked the school to remove or cover up the cross and
> three other religious signs, arguing their visibility during a public
> school event is a First Amendment violation.
>
> School officials responded by agreeing to change the graduation program
> to remove the student-led invocation and two hymns -- one titled Onward
> Christian Soldiers -- to rid the ceremony of any religious references.
>
> The program was not of a religious nature -- it was more tradition than
> anything else, said Neptune Public Schools Superintendent David Mooij.
> But we decided we would change the program and delete the things this
> individual found offensive.
>
> Removing or covering up the cross was another matter. The Camp
> Association said it could not cover the cross, said to have been a gift
> from movie director Woody Allen, who used the auditorium during shooting
> for the 1980 film "Stardust Memories." Nor would they cover up the two
> illuminated indoor signs Holiest to the Lord and So Be Ye Holy
> which are said to be the oldest operating electric signs in America.
>
> Read more:http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/17/aclu-threatens-legal-action-nj-h...

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Re: Fwd: new director of equality california moves left

Roland Palencia is a native of Guatemala. He is the Executive Director
of Clinica Monseñor Oscar A. Romero and co-founder of LG PLAN (Lesbian
and Gay Professional Latino Access Network).

On May 17, 4:14 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Subject: new director of equality california moves left
> To: richardgren...@aol.com
>
> Roland Palencia was announced today as the new director of Equality
> California and his first statement is:
>
> *"I am committed to creating a better future for all LGBT Californians and
> to connecting the LGBT movement to the broader movement for socio-economic
> justice."*
>
> * *
>
> *Socio-economic justice?  Justice for whom?  I can't afford any more
> socio-economic justice.  Studies show that 47% of Americans didn't pay taxes
> in 2009.  *
>
> * *
>
> *It's clear Roland and the Board have decided to move Equality California
> into the community development arena.  *
>
> * *
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> *
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> *
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