Wednesday, March 23, 2011

Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

MJ, the deranged, socialist-communist, party crasher is undeserving of
being replied to. — J. A. A. —
>
On Mar 22, 12:57 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> >Folks:  Apparently, MJ is incapable of reasoning.  He supposes that
> >since my "ideal" (not mandated in my New Constitution) government
> >would have ZERO outlays to individual citizens, i.e., no SS, Medicare,
> >Medicaid, nor Unemployment, that that shows me to be a socialist.  Can
> >you believe it?!
>
> <sigh>
> How a Government programs the STEALS from person
> A in order to give to person B will be
> 'privatized' not being provided notwithstanding,
> the portion that continues to embrace socialism,
> of course, was "while continuing to "cover" only
> those older or sicker people who have no other
> means of surviving or of getting first rate
> care". Like the woman who finally agrees on her
> price being a 'prostitute', so too is yours an embrace of socialism.
>
> Sad isn't it, that Armistead is reduced to
> projecting his shortcomings onto others.
>
> It is also noted that you AVOIDED the second
> example (like the misdirection you attempt on the
> first) of your socialist tendencies.
>
> >Socialism and communism (the ideal of Barack Obama)
> >have government providing everything and controlling everything.
>
> Government 'providing' everything is not required
> for socialism's myriad of children.
>
> >  I want government to provide next to nothing and to control next to
> >nothing.
>
> Except what excerpts of your Constitution you
> have provided does not bolster such a claim.
>
> >  A properly functioning free enterprise system can do those
> >thing, AND allow the maximum FAIR prosperity for the maximum number of
> >Americans!
>
> And yet your own brand of utopian socialism raises its head again.
>
> >MJ is revealing himself to be a socialist-communist bent on retarding
> >my efforts to promote my New Constitution.  He and Jonathan Ashley
> >aren't wanting to save the USA, but to have the USA fail.  A person
> >can be either FOR me or AGAINST me.  100% of those who are against me
> >are criminal, socialist-communists like OUTLAW Barack Obama.  — John
>
> Your fantasies and fallacies may aid you in
> retaining that pleasing vision, but they do little to those who grasp reality.
>
> I certainly understand your need to pretend your
> embraces of socialism are really not. I can also
> understand your desire for baseless
> 'name-calling'. I am quite certain that OTHERS do as well.
>
> Regard$,
> --MJ
>
> Nothing in the world is more dangerous than
> sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.   -- Martin Luther King, Jr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >A. Armistead —  Patriot
>
> >On Mar 21, 10:26 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > ELSEWHERE in THIS thread:Socialism and
> > communism are the anti-thesis of a
> > representative republic or a democracy.  My New
> > Constitution RETURNS civil liberties to the
> > People and will fire, jail or hang those in
> > government who support socialism and
> > communism.  When you attack my New Constitution
> > with your "include me" talk, you are attacking
> > THE most pro capitalism and pro civil liberties
> > person on the planet!  Get lost, Jonathan!  J.
> > A. A.And now HERE in THIS thread the same
> > person:I am personally recommending that Social
> > Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Unemployment
> > Insurance ALL be privatized—while continuing to
> > "cover" only those older or sicker people who
> > have no other means of surviving or of getting
> > first rate care. The implications are rather
> > OBVIOUS, but perhaps the author fails to see his EMBRACE of socialism.
> > > There is ALSO this from the same
> > person:Businesses or professions meeting
> > licensing standards germane to the type and
> > scope of work such perform, and being regularly
> > apprised of substantive new developments, may
> > control their own work without governmental
> > sanction, nor, once licensed, being required to
> > be other than self-trained to maintain
> > continuing competency for doing safe work
> > within their chosen type. Professionals
> > qualified by training, testing and experience
> > who perform safe and acceptable work within an
> > area of their competency shall not be
> > sanctioned for being unlicensed in another job
> > class or licensing jurisdiction—beyond fair
> > registration cost.  No more than 25% of
> > regulatory board members shall have been
> > employed in the profession or industry
> > regulated.Again continuing to EMBRACE socialism.
> > > It should no longer be a 'mystery' why this
> > 'constitution' is NEVER fully presented NOR
> > that the author cannot support what drivel he presents.
> > > <sigh> Sad.
> > > Regard$,
> > > --MJThere is simply no other choice than
> > this: either abstain from interference in the
> > free play of the market, or to delegate the
> > entire management of production and
> > distribution to the government. Either
> > capitalism or socialism: there exists no middle way. -- Ludwig von Mises
>
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Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

Mark, if you feel that way, then you too are a socialist-communist—or
else you can't read and comprehend. Attack me in any way, and you
attack fair, free-enterprise capitalism and having maximum civil
liberties for the vast majority of Americans. Until you can recognize
those facts, I have you correctly pegged-through-the-heart with a
sharply pointed wooden stake. — NE —
>
On Mar 22, 11:55 am, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kinda like you and your supposed "constitution" that goes beyond the scope
> of a REAL Constitution ie.
>
> *The fundamental law, written or unwritten, that establishes the character
> of a government by defining the basic principles to which a society must
> conform; by describing the organization of the government and regulation,
> distribution, and limitations on the functions of different government
> departments; and by prescribing the extent and manner of the exercise of its
> sovereign powers.*
> *
> *
> ***Go, get a new life. **what you are doing is a waste of your time and most
> importantly....MINE. I have to read all the drivel (your "constitution"
> posts) as well as all the meaningful stuff every day on this forum. What you
> have written and displayed so far IS A JOKE.*
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:33 AM, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > MJ:  All of those quotations of others that you cut and paste aren't
> > increasing your status in the groups one bit.  And haven't you heard?
> > It isn't polite to YELL (use larger type size).  You are a pest on my
> > post, simply because you know I have a lot of things going for me.  In
> > the perhaps years you have "tooted" your one page constitution, you
> > haven't gotten many readers, have you.  Please make a "quote" of your
> > own worthy of being in Bartlett's.  If you can't do that, then you
> > should seriously consider getting another (pretend) hobby.  — J. A. A.
> > —
>
> > On Mar 21, 10:11 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > And yet AGAIN ... you offer a response.
> > > SADLY, you offer no support to your claims.
> > > Regard$,
> > > --MJMuch of the intellectual legacy of Marx is an anti-intellectual
> > legacy. It has been said that you cannot refute a sneer. Marxism has taught
> > many-inside and outside its ranks-to sneer at capitalism, at inconvenient
> > facts or contrary interpretations, and thus ultimately to sneer at the
> > intellectual process itself. This has been one of the sources of its
> > enduring strength as a political doctrine, and as a means of acquiring and
> > using political power in unbridled ways. -- Thomas SowellAt 10:06 AM
> > 3/21/2011, you wrote:Party crashers, like MJ, are undeserving of being
> > replied to.  — J. A.
> > > A. —
>
> > > On Mar 19, 9:50 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > It is my understanding that I am a member (in good standing?) of this
> > Group (PoliticalFo...@GoogleGroups.com).
> > > > I never claimed to be a moderator.
> > > > I did not request a 'discussion'.
> > > > I did, however, ask for YOU to support YOUR assertion and explain:
> > > >   What 'constitutional rights' do you imagine 'run counter' when you
> > claim, "sometimes runs counter to the Constitutional rights of both patients
> > and their families"
> > > > Apparently you cannot support your claim(s) which is why you resort to
> > spewing fallacy when anyone responds to your posts.
> > > > Regard$,
> > > > --MJ"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a
> > right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the
> > right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are
> > evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of
> > self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature." -- Samuel
> > Adams, November 20, 1772At 05:42 PM 3/18/2011, you wrote:Dear MJ:  You are a
> > rude party crasher, not a moderator.  I am not
> > > > interested in having a discussion with anyone regarding the specifics
> > > > of my New Constitution.  As for science, I am the King of the Hill of
> > > > patriotic Americans!  — J. A. Armistead —
>
> > > > On Mar 17, 8:45 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > >In medical facilities all across the country, "medical protocol"
> > > > > >sometimes runs counter to the Constitutional rights of both patients
> > > > > >and their families.
>
> > > > > What 'constitutional rights' do you imagine to have 'run counter'?
> > > > > Please cite some examples.
>
> > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > --MJ
>
> > > > > Today, when a concerted effort is made to obliterate this point, it
> > > > > cannot be repeated too often that the Constitution is a limitation on
> > > > > the government, not on private individuals -- that it does not
> > > > > prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the
> > > > > government -- that it is not a charter _for_ government power, but a
> > > > > charter of the citizen's protection _against_ the government. --
> > > > > Alyssa Rosenbaum
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Ferris Bueller’s Teacher Wakes Up


Ferris Bueller's Teacher Wakes Up
Posted by Christopher Manion on March 22, 2011 03:23 PM

After a decade of oozing tepid treacle glorifying George W. Bush's wars, Ferris Bueller's substitute teacher trips over the Constitution, awakens from his sycophantic slumber, and says " Ouch! Omigosh­this war's unconstitutional!"

So are the other ones, Ben, but W started those, and that apparently exonerates all the guilty and absolves all their sins.

But only in the dialectic of the Manichee. The better to understand this tsunami of contradictions, read this , this, this, and this .

xxx

One World Government Obama
By Ben Stein on 3.22.11 @ 6:09AM

Maybe I missed something, but wasn't that The Constitution of the United States of America that we just laid to rest this weekend?

It was buried in a private ceremony by Mr. Barack Obama of Chicago as he silently signed America on to the One World Government some of us have been worried about for decades.

Look at it this way: Where did Mr. Obama get the authority to commit United States forces to war in Libya? There was no declaration of war. There was no authorizing resolution by Congress allowing money to be spent on a war against Col. Gaddafi. As far as I know, there was no meeting of Mr. Obama and top leaders of Congress to discuss the subject in even rough form, let alone detail. There was no lengthy buildup in which the Congress was "allowed" to express the people's opinion on whether we want to be in a third concurrent war.

There was just a vote by the United Nations Security Council, a very far from unanimous vote, and suddenly, the President's Secretary of State, Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton, solemnly announced that we were at war.

But, when did we amend the Constitution to declare that the United Nations had control over our military? When did we abolish the part of the Constitution that said Congress had the right to declare war? Now, I well know that in recent postwar conflicts, we don't have declarations of war. But we have Congressional  debates. We have funding votes. We have a sense of the Congress or some kind of resolution.

This time, zip. Nada. Nothing. Just France and the U.K. and Norway saying that it's time to go to war, and off America goes to war. And off Mr. and Mrs. Obama go to a South American "fact finding" trip for the POTUS and a fun sightseeing junket for the Obama girls.

(I wonder if there has ever before in history been a national leader who sent his country to war -- and the same day went off on vacation. Has that ever happened before? )

Something's missing here. Libya and Col. Gaddafi were and are no threat to the United States. It is sad and cruel that the Gaddafi regime was murdering its own civilians, but so do many governments all across the world, including North Korea, Iran, the Ivory Coast, Zimbabwe, and Cuba. Are we going to war with all of them, now?

Meanwhile, again, what the heck happened to the Constitution? Is this Mr. Obama's legacy to our children? The junking of the Constitution in the middle of the night and the turnover of our sovereignty to the United Nations? (By the way, this is the same UN where Libya until recently sat on the Commission on Human Rights.) Why aren't any questions being asked? Is the Constitution that meaningless to us? Are we that pitiful now? Are we willing to toss overboard the Constitution for the writ of the United Nations? I guess so. Sad days.


http://spectator.org/archives/2011/03/22/one-world-government-obama

Re: Trouble in ObamaLand: Democrats are saying Obama launched attack on Libya...for Oil!!!

Whoa! Dennis Kucinich is talking impeachment!

On Mar 22, 2:54 pm, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Steve Lynch (D-MA), has been tearing Obama a new one for 2 days now,
> and shows no sign of slowing down
>
> On Mar 22, 1:50 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >     <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/author/scottystarnes/> Trouble in
> > ObamaLand: Democrats are saying Obama launched attack on Libya...for
> > Oil!!!<http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/trouble-in-obamaland-de...>
> > *Scotty Starnes
> > <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/author/scottystarnes/>*| March 22,
> > 2011 at 11:30 AM | Tags: cap
> > and trade <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=cap-and-trade>,
> > Libya<http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=libya>,
> > oil <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=oil>, President
> > Obama<http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=president-obama>,
> > renewable energy <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=renewable-energy>,
> > Rep. Edward Markey
> > (D-Mass.)<http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?tag=rep-edward-markey-d-mass>|
> > Categories: Political
> > Issues <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/?cat=35145> | URL:http://wp.me/pvnFC-4Ox
>
> > He's breaking constitutional law. He's doing it for oil. Most would think
> > his was being shouted by Republicans. However, these shouts are coming from
> > Obama's own party. Trouble in ObamaLand.
>
> > The Hill<http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/151041-key-dem-attac...>
> >  reports:
>
> > The United States military action against Libya is motivated by a desire for
> > affordable and accessible oil, a top Democrat on environmental issues said
> > Monday.
>
> > *Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.), the ranking member of the House Natural
> > Resources Committee, said that he agreed with President Obama's decision to
> > launch, along with allies, attacks against Libya and its leader,
> > Moammar Gadhafi. But Markey said the attacks were primarily motivated by
> > oil. *
>
> > "*We are in Libya because of oil," *Markey said on MSNBC. "It all goes back
> > to the 5 million barrels of oil we import from OPEC on a daily basis."
>
> > "I think all Americans know why the president made this strike," he said.
> > "As long as no American soldiers are on the ground ... then I think it's a
> > good decision for the president."
>
> > Markey is the same Democrat trying to push the cap-and-trade scheme.
> > Basically he is trying to say that if the U.S. had 'renewable energy,' Obama
> > wouldn't have attacked Libya. However, being a dumb Democrats, Markey
> > doesn't know that the U.S. doesn't import any oil from Libya.
>
> > Political unrest in Libya and other Middle Eastern nations with high oil
> > production contributed to higher prices per barrel of crude oil, which
> > translates to higher energy costs — particularly in gasoline. (Oil was up to
> > above $102/barrel as of midday trading on Monday.)
>
> > The increased energy prices led Obama to hold a press conference earlier
> > this month in which he renewed calls for *more production of renewable
> > energy*, and said he would consider opening the Strategic Petroleum Reserves
> > if oil prices continued to rise.
>
> > Just don't ask him to allow U.S. companies to drill for our own oil. That
> > would be common sense and go against his plans to make energy prices
> > skyrocket.
>
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13 Illegal Aliens Disguised As U.S. MARINES Caught Sneaking Into America At Mexican Border




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