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On Mar 3, 2:22 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Keith,
>
> They aren't.... all those people mentioned are "Private Citizens" now,
> aren't they. They no longer have "Privilege", nor should they.
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mark,
>
> > The Nation of Spain has no dominion, jurisdiction, authority, or
> > "bravissimo" to put on trial, ANY United States President, Vice-President,
> > or any of their advisors, period. No one in the European Union has such
> > authority.
>
> > Take it to the bank,
>
> > Keith
>
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:45 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Keith,
>
> >> Neither US law nor the thoughts or ideas of non-Spanish residents and
> >> or citizens has a place in a Spanish courtroom. The US has held trials
> >> of foreign nationals that committed crimes against US property and or
> >> US citizens that took place on foreign soil.... Spain (as every bit
> >> Sovereign and legitimate as the US) and its courts has the very same
> >> prerogative. As a member of the EU it has co-opted trading rights/
> >> regulations within that Organization that would have to include/
> >> exclude all of the EU just to get to Spain... That ain't gonna
> >> happen.
>
> >> If that court, under Spanish law, is/was found to be competent to hold
> >> the trial.... it will happen and the rulings will be recognized.
>
> >> It has nothing and everything to do with the haphazard US Bravissimo
> >> and tolerances for stepping outside their own constitution.
>
> >> (843) 767-2600
> >> On Mar 3, 9:54 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Much ado about nothing. Any rational person who has read, and studied
> >> > Steven Bradbury's May 10, and May 30, 2005 Memoranda, as well as Jay
> >> Bybee's
> >> > John Yoo's and the "Rumsfeld Defense Department Working Group's"
> >> Memoranda,
> >> > along with Professor Jeffrey F. Addicott's May 13, 2009 testimony, (and
> >> I
> >> > will gladly post all of these memoranda for you MJ and Noelle, if the
> >> both
> >> > of you have not read these treatise); coupled with the Convention
> >> Against
> >> > Torture and the Treaty of Rome, would have to conclude that there is no
> >> > basis to allege that our Nation ever tortured anyone, period.
>
> >> > To suggest that Spain has any "jurisdiction", or right, ability,
> >> dominion,
> >> > or moral high ground to charge Americans who advised our President, much
> >> > less to do so against our former President and Vice President, and those
> >> who
> >> > made the decision to conduct these enhanced interrogation tactics, is
> >> > outrageous. Anyone who does support Spain and this homosexual Spanish
> >> > Judge Baltazar Garzón is either a complete, total, uninformed wacko
> >> left,
> >> > socialist elitist Moonbat, and/or they are something far more sinister,
> >> > which is just a flat out Anti-American traitor. There is no room for
> >> > any other option here, it is either one or the other.
>
> >> > The Garzón allegations stem from two Moonbats who wrote a paper in
> >> February
> >> > 2006, which was published by the Anti-American group, "Human Rights
> >> First".
> >> > This paper contains numerous prevaricate statements, mistruths, and out
> >> > right lies. The Pentagon, the State Department and the United Nations
> >> > have dismissed many of the allegations, especially that 98 prisoners
> >> had
> >> > died while in captivity as bogus.
>
> >> > Again, the last I checked, Spain had made the determination *not* to
> >> follow
> >> > through with any prosecutions, because they know to do so would be
> >> suicidal
> >> > from a diplomatic standpoint. The fact that any American would advocate
> >> > another Nation-State charging and prosecuting our President is
> >> outrageous,
> >> > and yes, TRAITOROUS!!!
>
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She was a joke for so long that I am surprised that she had an
award named after her in the first place.
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Mark,The Nation of Spain has no dominion, jurisdiction, authority, or "bravissimo" to put on trial, ANY United States President, Vice-President, or any of their advisors, period. No one in the European Union has such authority.Take it to the bank,KeithOn Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:45 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith,
Neither US law nor the thoughts or ideas of non-Spanish residents and
or citizens has a place in a Spanish courtroom. The US has held trials
of foreign nationals that committed crimes against US property and or
US citizens that took place on foreign soil.... Spain (as every bit
Sovereign and legitimate as the US) and its courts has the very same
prerogative. As a member of the EU it has co-opted trading rights/
regulations within that Organization that would have to include/
exclude all of the EU just to get to Spain... That ain't gonna
happen.
If that court, under Spanish law, is/was found to be competent to hold
the trial.... it will happen and the rulings will be recognized.
It has nothing and everything to do with the haphazard US Bravissimo
and tolerances for stepping outside their own constitution.
(843) 767-2600
On Mar 3, 9:54 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Much ado about nothing. Any rational person who has read, and studied
> Steven Bradbury's May 10, and May 30, 2005 Memoranda, as well as Jay Bybee's
> John Yoo's and the "Rumsfeld Defense Department Working Group's" Memoranda,
> along with Professor Jeffrey F. Addicott's May 13, 2009 testimony, (and I
> will gladly post all of these memoranda for you MJ and Noelle, if the both
> of you have not read these treatise); coupled with the Convention Against
> Torture and the Treaty of Rome, would have to conclude that there is no
> basis to allege that our Nation ever tortured anyone, period.
>
> To suggest that Spain has any "jurisdiction", or right, ability, dominion,
> or moral high ground to charge Americans who advised our President, much
> less to do so against our former President and Vice President, and those who
> made the decision to conduct these enhanced interrogation tactics, is
> outrageous. Anyone who does support Spain and this homosexual Spanish
> Judge Baltazar Garzón is either a complete, total, uninformed wacko left,
> socialist elitist Moonbat, and/or they are something far more sinister,
> which is just a flat out Anti-American traitor. There is no room for
> any other option here, it is either one or the other.
>
> The Garzón allegations stem from two Moonbats who wrote a paper in February
> 2006, which was published by the Anti-American group, "Human Rights First".
> This paper contains numerous prevaricate statements, mistruths, and out
> right lies. The Pentagon, the State Department and the United Nations
> have dismissed many of the allegations, especially that 98 prisoners had
> died while in captivity as bogus.
>
> Again, the last I checked, Spain had made the determination *not* to follow
> through with any prosecutions, because they know to do so would be suicidal
> from a diplomatic standpoint. The fact that any American would advocate
> another Nation-State charging and prosecuting our President is outrageous,
> and yes, TRAITOROUS!!!--
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Keith,
Neither US law nor the thoughts or ideas of non-Spanish residents and
or citizens has a place in a Spanish courtroom. The US has held trials
of foreign nationals that committed crimes against US property and or
US citizens that took place on foreign soil.... Spain (as every bit
Sovereign and legitimate as the US) and its courts has the very same
prerogative. As a member of the EU it has co-opted trading rights/
regulations within that Organization that would have to include/
exclude all of the EU just to get to Spain... That ain't gonna
happen.
If that court, under Spanish law, is/was found to be competent to hold
the trial.... it will happen and the rulings will be recognized.
It has nothing and everything to do with the haphazard US Bravissimo
and tolerances for stepping outside their own constitution.
(843) 767-2600
On Mar 3, 9:54 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Much ado about nothing. Any rational person who has read, and studied
> Steven Bradbury's May 10, and May 30, 2005 Memoranda, as well as Jay Bybee's
> John Yoo's and the "Rumsfeld Defense Department Working Group's" Memoranda,
> along with Professor Jeffrey F. Addicott's May 13, 2009 testimony, (and I
> will gladly post all of these memoranda for you MJ and Noelle, if the both
> of you have not read these treatise); coupled with the Convention Against
> Torture and the Treaty of Rome, would have to conclude that there is no
> basis to allege that our Nation ever tortured anyone, period.
>
> To suggest that Spain has any "jurisdiction", or right, ability, dominion,
> or moral high ground to charge Americans who advised our President, much
> less to do so against our former President and Vice President, and those who
> made the decision to conduct these enhanced interrogation tactics, is
> outrageous. Anyone who does support Spain and this homosexual Spanish
> Judge Baltazar Garzón is either a complete, total, uninformed wacko left,
> socialist elitist Moonbat, and/or they are something far more sinister,
> which is just a flat out Anti-American traitor. There is no room for
> any other option here, it is either one or the other.
>
> The Garzón allegations stem from two Moonbats who wrote a paper in February
> 2006, which was published by the Anti-American group, "Human Rights First".
> This paper contains numerous prevaricate statements, mistruths, and out
> right lies. The Pentagon, the State Department and the United Nations
> have dismissed many of the allegations, especially that 98 prisoners had
> died while in captivity as bogus.
>
> Again, the last I checked, Spain had made the determination *not* to follow
> through with any prosecutions, because they know to do so would be suicidal
> from a diplomatic standpoint. The fact that any American would advocate
> another Nation-State charging and prosecuting our President is outrageous,
> and yes, TRAITOROUS!!!--
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