Saturday, February 26, 2011

Re: The Truth:

rights" which would guarantee:

Employment, with a living wage,
Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies,
Housing,
Medical care,
Education, and,
Social security
Roosevelt stated that having these rights would guarantee American
security, and that America's place in the world depended upon how far
these and similar rights had been carried into practice.

If someone has a 'right' to employment, he could go into *any* company and simply demand DEMAND his job. After all, it is his by 'right'. It would not matter if he did his job well or even at all since it was his by 'right'.
What Roosevelt puts forth HERE is a list of WISHES.
What is 'unfair' competition? Who gets to decide? Why them? Monopolies are created through barriers to entry in the marketplace and have ONLY occurred through Government.

Who will provide for all these WISHES? What happens when the costs for these WISHES exceeds what can be plundered?
We are rapidly reaching the point where the WISHES for Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid are going to provide a real life demonstration.

Regard$,
--MJ

How to Identify Legal Plunder

But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.

Then abolish this law without delay, for it is not only an evil itself, but also it is a fertile source for further evils because it invites reprisals. If such a law ­ which may be an isolated case ­ is not abolished immediately, it will spread, multiply, and develop into a system.

The person who profits from this law will complain bitterly, defending his acquired rights. He will claim that the state is obligated to protect and encourage his particular industry; that this procedure enriches the state because the protected industry is thus able to spend more and to pay higher wages to the poor workingmen.

Do not listen to this sophistry by vested interests. The acceptance of these arguments will build legal plunder into a whole system. In fact, this has already occurred. The present-day delusion is an attempt to enrich everyone at the expense of everyone else; to make plunder universal under the pretense of organizing it.
Legal Plunder Has Many Names

Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole ­ with their common aim of legal plunder ­ constitute socialism.

Now, since under this definition socialism is a body of doctrine, what attack can be made against it other than a war of doctrine? If you find this socialistic doctrine to be false, absurd, and evil, then refute it. And the more false, the more absurd, and the more evil it is, the easier it will be to refute. Above all, if you wish to be strong, begin by rooting out every particle of socialism that may have crept into your legislation. This will be no light task.
Socialism Is Legal Plunder

Mr. de Montalembert has been accused of desiring to fight socialism by the use of brute force. He ought to be exonerated from this accusation, for he has plainly said: "The war that we must fight against socialism must be in harmony with law, honor, and justice."

But why does not Mr. de Montalembert see that he has placed himself in a vicious circle? You would use the law to oppose socialism? But it is upon the law that socialism itself relies. Socialists desire to practice legal plunder, not illegal plunder. Socialists, like all other monopolists, desire to make the law their own weapon. And when once the law is on the side of socialism, how can it be used against socialism? For when plunder is abetted by the law, it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes, and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help.

To prevent this, you would exclude socialism from entering into the making of laws? You would prevent socialists from entering the Legislative Palace? You shall not succeed, I predict, so long as legal plunder continues to be the main business of the legislature. It is illogical ­ in fact, absurd ­ to assume otherwise.
The Choice Before Us

This question of legal plunder must be settled once and for all, and there are only three ways to settle it:

  1. The few plunder the many.
  2. Everybody plunders everybody.
  3. Nobody plunders anybody.

We must make our choice among limited plunder, universal plunder, and no plunder. The law can follow only one of these three.

Limited legal plunder: This system prevailed when the right to vote was restricted. One would turn back to this system to prevent the invasion of socialism.

Universal legal plunder: We have been threatened with this system since the franchise was made universal. The newly enfranchised majority has decided to formulate law on the same principle of legal plunder that was used by their predecessors when the vote was limited.

No legal plunder: This is the principle of justice, peace, order, stability, harmony, and logic. Until the day of my death, I shall proclaim this principle with all the force of my lungs (which alas! is all too inadequate). [2]

-- Frederic Bastiat

Re: The poor are not getting poorer

 The civil war wouldn't have had to be
fought if nobody bought slave made cotton.
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The war between the North and the South is a tariff war. The war is, further, not for any principle, does not touch the question of slavery, and in fact turns on the Northern lust for sovereignty. -- Karl Marx, 1861


Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

And yet you provide another fallacy spew INSTEAD
of putting your panacea Constitution out for all to see and revere.
Pity.

Regard$,
--MJ

"Nothing is more securely lodged than the
ignorance of the experts" Nobel laureate and Austrian economist F. A. Hayek

At 06:16 AM 2/26/2011, you wrote:
>MJ: You are NOT wanted on this post! In the last few weeks you've
>managed to give your cook-booked quotations of others, and your own
>breakfast-table-written "constitution" of sorts. But you have not
>even gone back into my thread to read about my New Constitution, which
>is detailed in essays that highlight the apt portions of my document.
>And you obviously have no "Regard$" for anyone but yourself. ***
>Since my base philosophy is pro-capitalism and pro minimumist
>government, when you attack me—the author-messenger—you are revealing
>yourself to be a socialist and probably a communist. If it offends
>you that I have figured you out, take your "quotes" and your "regards"
>elsewhere. You are not wanted here! — J. A. A. — Patriot
> >
>On Feb 25, 10:45 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > And yet ANOTHER fallacy spew.
> > Let's see this panacea of yours. What -- exactly
> > -- are you afraid of? That it is shit?
> >
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
> >
> > "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the
> > consequences of evading reality" -- Alyssa Rosenbaum
> >
> > At 10:36 AM 2/25/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Dear MJ: You sir, are a total BUM! What I have written describing my
> > >New Constitution and how such would be apt to events in the news would
> > >fill several "War and Peace"-size novels. Not a single WORD of what I
> > >have written supports socialism nor communism! I am in favor of
> > >having a super-efficient, minimum-size government that has close to
> > >zero interaction with individual citizens. 'My' government will no
> > >longer keep records on the law-abiding citizens, because taxes will be
> > >value-added, only. And I have nixed having the government maintain
> > >records of criminal investigations of anyone found to be innocent.
> > >Those on-file records tend to prejudice law enforcement to "convict"
> > >the person they failed to convict the last time. My corrections of
> > >corrupt law enforcement practices, alone, should be justification
> > >enough to ratify my New Constitution! Presently, the USA is a police
> > >state—with the strings being pulled by corrupt public figures. And
> > >the courts have done whatever the political leaders dictate. I've put
> > >them in their place, big time!
> >
> > >You, MJ, are little more than a party-crasher. I do not appreciate in
> > >the least having you post your elementary version of "A" constitution
> > >of some kind. Post your God-damned junk constitution under your name,
> > >not mine. I am not playing games, here. If you would like to get
> > >back into anyone's good graces, explain your political philosophy in
> > >two paragraphs or less. Unless I see the words: "I pro-capitalist
> > >and anti-socialist"… included, then I will know for sure that you are
> > >just some HACKER who is back-dooring your socialist-communist ideals.
> > >Anyone who says anything at all negative about my ideals can only be
> > >the latter. — J. A. A. —
> >
> > >On Feb 23, 9:40 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > In case anyone missed it ... anyone who ASKS to
> > > > see this 'Constitution' ... is labelled as a socialist-communist.
> > > > My guess is that this Constitution upholds,
> > > > endorses and hails ... socialism. THAT is the
> > > > true reason Armistead does not want to post it OR let anyone 'see it'.
> > > > Pity.
> >
> > > > Regard$,
> > > > --MJ
> >
> > > > "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the
> > > > consequences of evading reality" -- Alyssa Rosenbaum
> >
> > > > At 09:33 PM 2/23/2011, you wrote:
> >
> > > > >Dear Jonathan: Get this and get this good: Your "pushy" attitude on
> > > > >MY post about MY New Constitution pegs you as a likely socialist-
> > > > >communist. You are not wanted here, nor anywhere else in the USA! —
> > > > >John A. Armistead — Patriot
> >
> > > > >On Feb 23, 2:56 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > How does John expect to implement his New
> > > Constitution if no one is ever
> > > > > > allowed to read it? He sounds like a
> wanna-be dictator in the making.
> >
> > > > > > On 2/23/2011 11:45 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > That 40% of my New Constitution which has been made public has
> > > > > > > scarcely been commented on. I am
> NOT wishing to have your nor anyone
> > > > > > > else's feedback on what I have
> written! Most would love to see the
> > > > > > > entire document so that they can
> make grandiose criticisms about this
> > > > > > > or that. From my personal life, I
> have had head-to-head run-ins with
> > > > > > > our corrupt state, local, and
> federal governments that allow me to
> > > > > > > speak from personal experience that few if any other person could
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > had. That is why my New
> Constitution will immediately fire or kick
> > > > > > > out of office any public official or employee, including the
> > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > himself, who does not respond
> appropriately for a logical request of
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > single law-abiding citizen for the
> redress of a grievance. To wit:
> >
> > > > > > > Substitute "Obamacare" and thats what the DEMS slammed down your
> > > > > > > throats.
> >
> > > > > > > On Feb 22, 11:07 am, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Dear Keith: Thanks for your rational-toned reply. My New
> > > > > > >> Constitution will indeed be
> copyrighted. But only those parts of it
> > > > > > >> not copied and adapted from the
> original, public-domain document.
> > > > > > >> This isn't being done for making money
> > > from the sale of copies, but to
> > > > > > >> be sure no crazies print 'modified
> copies' that would, maliciously,
> > > > > > >> make me look bad�as part of a
> > > socialist/communist plot to side-track
> > > > > > >> my efforts.
> >
> > > > > > >> I'm not sure you nor others realize
> > > that my document has, for fourteen
> > > > > > >> years, withstood the test of
> correcting the daily crises highlighted
> > > > > > >> in the news, and the regular
> > > injustices coming from our courts. What
> > > > > > >> is included is at least ten times
> broader in scope than the original
> > > > > > >> constitution. Realize that I have had the advantage (over the
> > > > > > >> Founding Fathers) of seeing what
> has and what hasn't worked with our
> > > > > > >> Constitution.
> >
> > > > > > >> That 40% of my New Constitution which has been made public has
> > > > > > >> scarcely been commented on. I am NOT
> > > wishing to have your nor anyone
> > > > > > >> else's feedback on what I have
> written! Most would love to see the
> > > > > > >> entire document so that they can make
> > > grandiose criticisms about this
> > > > > > >> or that. From my personal life, I
> > > have had head-to-head run-ins with
> > > > > > >> our corrupt state, local, and
> federal governments that allow me to
> > > > > > >> speak from personal experience that
> > > few if any other person could have
> > > > > > >> had. That is why my New
> Constitution will immediately fire or kick
> > > > > > >> out of office any public official or
> > > employee, including the President
> > > > > > >> himself, who does not respond
> > > appropriately for a logical request of a
> > > > > > >> single law-abiding citizen for the
> redress of a grievance. To wit:
> >
> > > > > > >> "1st Amendment: No law shall be
> made regarding the establishment of
> > > > > > >> peaceable religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, but
> > > > > > >> government, its campaigns, processes,
> > > slogans, and disbursements shall
> > > > > > >> be secular. No law nor private or
> civil action shall abridge: the
> > > > > > >> freedom of speech; the freedom of
> a fair and pro-democracy press or
> > > > > > >> other medium; the right of People
> to peaceably assemble; *** and the
> > > > > > >> right of any Citizen or group to
> petition government or any of its
> > > > > > >> branches or departments for redress of grievances. Citizens so
> > > > > > >> petitioning government shall
> receive appropriate, relevant, timely,
> > > > > > >> comprehensive, helpful and just
> > > responses from proper authorities who
> > > > > > >> have thoroughly read, understood, and
> > > addressed each salient aspect of
> > > > > > >> the grievances or requests for
> > > directions or clarifications. Failure
> > > > > > >> to so respond to a rightful petition
> > > for redress of a grievance shall,
> > > > > > >> on a single provable instance,
> terminate the apt one�s employment,
> > > > > > >> especially those in management or
> > > public office�including judges and
> > > > > > >> justices�who ignore, frustrate or
> > > give the run-around to any competent
> > > > > > >> Citizen who has been diligent in having a grievance properly
> > > > > > >> addressed, or in having his or her
> civil rights fully upheld. No
> > > > > > >> judge or justice shall presume
> that by performing the above required
> > > > > > >> duties, that they in any way might
> be compromising their objectivity
> > > > > > >> or fairness in court; justice be
> not �blind�, but well informed.
> > > > > > >> Freedom of the press or other medium
> > > mandates that there be reasonable
> > > > > > >> truthfulness in reporting. Wanton distortion of the truth, or
> > > > > > >> deliberate omission of the
> > > truth�except in cases of obvious fiction or
> > > > > > >> satire�is prohibited. Stating
> or implying that a particular news
> > > > > > >> medium has a collective voice (we) or position on any issue is
> > > > > > >> prohibited, as for example via: anonymous editorials; regularly
> > > > > > >> occurring accompanying comments;
> commentary programs financed by, or
> > > > > > >> ideologically screened by, the
> same news medium; editorials named as
> > > > > > >> being authored by management;
> > > editorial comments by others that are in
> > > > > > >> any way ideologically censored,
> omitted or screened; or by comments
> > > > > > >> occurring at specific times or
> designated locations that most would
> > > > > > >> come to associate with the management
> > > of such medium, even if such are
> > > > > > >> innocuous. No medium shall be a
> forum for promoting the ideology of
> > > > > > >> its management or owners, nor
> shall they employ anyone who uses such
> > > > > > >> job to hawk their personal political
> > > preferences�at risk of loss of
> > > > > > >> license or closure of the business. Flagrantly editing news to
> > > > > > >> promote the ideology of management is a felony. No medium shall
> > > > > > >> analyze, assess, summarize, or
> make subjective judgments about any
> > > > > > >> pending election or referendum. Nor
> > > shall they invite others outside
> > > > > > >> of the media to do so. But factual, thorough coverage of the
> > > > > > >> candidates or referenda
> issues�on an as occurs basis�is allowed,
> > > > > > >> provided there are no comments,
> nor actions, as above, and provided
> > > > > > >> the same unbiased coverage is given to
> > > all of the candidates or to all
> > > > > > >> of the referenda issues. It shall
> be a 10 year felony to repress
> > > > > > >> truthful news reporting in any medium
> > > by threatening legal action. No
> > > > > > >> medium can be sued for libel for presenting material authored by
> > > > > > >> others, but if a person
> >
> > ...
> >
> > read more »
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Libyan Soldiers

Libyan Soldiers
Posted by Laurence Vance on February 25, 2011 06:32 PM

I see that Libyan soldiers are fighting against their own people. But why should we condemn them? They are just following orders. They must obey their superiors. They didn't ask for this mission. Killing Libyans was not in their job description. They joined the military because they were patriotic. They are serving their country. All criticism toward the soldiers' actions should be directed at the Libyan government and politicians.

But, but, but . . . what they are doing is wrong! So what. They are just doing their jobs as loyal Libyan soldiers.

What apologists for the U.S. military really believe is that American soldiers are the grand exception. Foreign soldiers are evil unless they do our bidding. It is only American soldiers who are heroes for obeying orders and killing on command. And don't think that American soldiers wouldn't do the same thing to us as the Libyan soldiers are doing to Libyans. We already get it in the neck by the American TSA and police and DEA and ATF. And if American soldiers refused to kill Americans, then they would be disobeying orders, thinking for themselves, and refusing to follow an unjust command -- things that they are condemned for now if they refuse to kill on command in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Pak-US joint army operation video leaked

Pak-US joint army operation video leaked
Posted By Farhan Z Shah On 26/02/2011





Islamabad: The US forces stationed in Afghanistan conduct combine operations in Pakistani territories with Pakistani paramilitary forces deployed on Pak-Afghan Border.

Officials of Private Security are also reported to be involved in such meetings and the planning of such operations.

It is emerged after a video, apparently recorded in Pakistan's  Mehmand Agency area, that although forces of both the countries pretend publicly to operate separately but in actual it is not the case.

The video shows US and Pakistani forces conduct joint operations and it's a routine for US troops to engage in operations within Pakistani borders.

Even in recent past, American commandos have completed two missions in Pakistani tribal area out of which one resulted in deaths of Pakistani Soldiers deployed at Border Check Post. The second operation ended with civilian causalities.

At first, ISPR, official media relations hand of Pakistan Army,  denied it but after the second incident fierce protest was lodged and NATO supply line was sealed in consequence.

During those two operations Afghan government continued to blame Pakistan militants and supporters of Taliban of being  involved in anti-Nato activities and added that they took shelter in Pakistan tribal area after completing such tasks.




Video was recorded in December 2010 in Pakistani tribal belt Mehmand agency, near a region call Sora Darra. It shows nine US soldiers along with a civil-dressed American are busy in meeting with Pakistani Forces.

Earlier on Friday in  an assembly session of National Assembly, Minister of External Affairs Hina Rabbani Khar has accepted the presence of 851 Americans in Pakistan including 554 diplomats and 297 non diplomats.

Shooting style of video and the reaction of Pakistani and American troops develop a feeling that the person who records it was one of the meeting participants. Short mobile video is stretched to over 3-minute duration.

The video of alleged meeting before joint operation also shows Pakistani Border Force or Frontier Constabulary officials sitting with their captain rank commander. Soldiers of both the countries seem to be involved in group discussion on any issue while a private security official is continuously taking notes.

Earlier, experts with insights on Pakistan's Foreign Policy and Pak-US ties have said that over 5,000 US troops are engaged in operational activities in Pakistan came on visas granted after special permission from Pakistan's Envoy to US Hussain Haqqani and the Pakistan government.

The video shows serving of famous Qahwa (tea), a symbol of hospitality in tribal areas, to US troops.

The video of Pakistan army convened meeting seems to be recorded near any Pakistani check post. Three minutes 27 seconds long video also reveals that two US troops with their four Pakistani counterparts standing on top of a mountain were looking  around alertly while rest were busy in the meeting sitting in a circle on floor.

It is evident from various media reports that Michael George Fernandez otherwise known as Raymond Davis, arrested Jan 27 on killing of two Pakistanis in Lahore, was responsible for developing networks to protect US interest in the restive South Asian country besides having a close eye on extremists groups.




Combine video of Pakistani and US troops once again raises the question that while opposing US operations publicly, Pakistan government, in fact, is a crucial part of the ongoing war initiated on hidden US nod.

It is also claimed both by US and Pakistan armies that they had eliminating militants and Talibans in their separate or combine operations, a claim contradicted by independent sources and United Nations' reports. The reports maintained that most of killings in Afghanistan after 2001 were of civilians. The last year's report of UN confirmed that more than 70 killings involved civilians.

Former Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) chief and defense analyst General (Retd) Hameed Gul was reported saying that information emerged during Raymod Davis case and subsequent US attitude had reaffirmed that Pakistan should have to review its ties and policy regarding a war waged to benefit the world super power.

More importantly, in a telephonic contact between ISI head Lt. General Shuja Pasha and CIA chief Levin Penta, the former has demanded to US to reveal all of its troops present in Pakistan; however, the conversation did not cover, at least on record level, issue of combine public operations.

This is to remember that information is circulating in many circles that there are over 1,000 CIA agents in Pakistan who were granted permission by the civilian government while overcrossing the Pakistan's agencies.



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پاک امریکہ افواج کےمشترکہ آپریشن کی وڈیومنظرعام پر
Posted By Shahid Abbasi On 26/02/2011




افغانستان میں موجود امریکی افواج پاکستانی علاقوں کے اندرآکردونوں ملکوں کی سرحدوں پرتعینات پاکستانی پیراملٹری فورسز کے ساتھ مشترکہ کارروائیاں کرتی ہیں۔ان مواقع پرامریکی فوج کےلئے کام کرنے والی نجی سیکورٹی کمپنیوں کے اہلکاربھی ان میٹنگز اور کارروائیوں کی منصوبہ بندی کے عمل میں شریک رہتے ہیں۔

پاکستان کے علاقے مہمند ایجنسی سے منسوب ایک ویڈیو کےمنظرعام پر آنے کے بعد یہ بات سامنے آئی ہے کہ دونوں ملکوں کی افواج اگر چہ عوامی سطح پرخود کو الگ الگ دائروں تک محدود رکھتی ہیں لیکن عملی طورپرایسا نہیں ہے بلکہ پاکستانی اورامریکی فورسزمشترکہ کارروائیاں کرتی اورامریکییوں کاپاکستانی علاقوں میں آنا معمول کی بات ہے۔

ماضی میں امریکی کمانڈوز پاکستان کے قبائلی علاقے میں دو زمینی کارروائیاں بھی کر چکی ہیں جن میں سے ایک میں پاکستان کی سرحدی چوکی پرتعینات فوجی اہلکار ہلاک ہوئے تھے۔ دوسری کارروائی خیبر ایجنسی کے سرحدی گائوں میں کی گئی تھی  جس میں سویلین ہلاکتیں بھی ہوئی تھیں۔ان دونوں کارروائیوں کی ابتداء میں پاکستانی فوج کے میڈیاریلیشن کے ذمہ دار ادارے آئی ایس پی آر نے ان واقعات کی تردید کی تھی۔تاہم دوسری کارروائی پرامریکہ سے شدید احتجاج کیاگیاتھا جس کے تحت پاکستان کے راستے افغانستان میں تعینات امریکی وناٹوفورسز کو جانے والی سپلائی لائن معطل کر دی گئی تھی۔

ان دونوں کارروائیوں کے موقع پر افغانستان کی جانب سے تواتر کے ساتھ پاکستان پریہ الزام لگایا جاتا رہا تھا کہ عسکریت پسند اور طالبان کے حمایتی عناصر ناٹوفورسز کے بعد کارروائیاں کر کے پاکستان کے قبائلی علاقوں میں پناہ لیتے ہیں۔

گزشتہ برس دسمبر میں تیار کی گئی ویڈیومبینہ طورپرپاکستانی قبائلی پٹی مہمند ایجنسی کےعلاقے SORAN DARRA کی ہے۔جہاں 9کےقریب امریکی فوجی ایک سویلین لباس میں ملبوس امریکی نظرآنے والے فرد کے ساتھ پاکستانی فورسز سے میٹنگ میں مصروف نظر آتے ہیں۔

اس سے قبل جمعہ کوپاکستان کی قومی اسمبلی میں وزیر مملکت برائے خارجہ حناربانی کھر یہ تسلیم کر چکی ہیں کہ پاکستان میں851 امریکی موجود ہیں جن میں سے سفارتی اہلکار554اورغیرسفارتی عملہ 297کی تعداد میں ہے۔ حالیہ ویڈیو بنانے کے انداز اورتیاری کے دوران موقع پرموجود پاکستانی وامریکی فوجیوں کے ردعمل سے محسوس یہ ہوتا ہے کہ ریکارڈنگ کرنے والے کا تعلق یہیں موجود فوجیوں سے ہے۔ موبائل کیمرے سے بنائی گئی ویڈیو کی طوالت 3منٹ سے زائد کی ہے۔

مبینہ طور پر مہمند ایجنسی میں عسکری آپریشن سے قبل منصوبہ بندی کےلئے ہونے والی مشترکہ میٹنگ کی ویڈیو میں پاکستان کی سرحدی فورس فرنٹئیرکانسٹیبلری کے اہلکار اپنے کیپٹن رینک کے کمانڈر کے ساتھ وہاں موجود دکھائےگئے ہیں۔ایک گروپ میں بیٹھے ہوئے دونوں ملکوں کے فوجی باہم گفتگو میں مصروف ہیں جب کہ سویلین لباس میں موجود کسی نجی سیکورٹی ایجنسی کا اہلکار دکھنے والا فرد اس دوران مسلسل اپنے پاس موجود کاغذات پرکچھ نوٹ کرتے ہوئے دیکھا جا سکتا ہے۔

قبل ازیں پاکستان کی خارجہ پالیسی اورپاک امریکہ تعلقات پر نظررکھنے والے مبصرین یہ کہہ چکے ہیں کہ ملک میں 5ہزار سےزائد امریکی اہلکارموجود ہیں جن میں سے بیشترامریکہ میں تعینات پاکستانی سفیر حسین حقانی اورحکومت پاکستان کی خصوصی اجازت کے بعد حاصل ہونے والے ویزہ پرپاکستان آئے ہیں۔



مبینہ عسکری آپریشن سے قبل تیار کی گئی ویڈیو کے دوران امریکی فوجیوں کےلئے قبائلی علاقوں میں مہمان نوازی کی علامت کے طور پر معروف قہوہ لایا جاتا ہے۔پاکستانی فوج سے کی جانے والی میٹنگ پر مبنی اس ویڈیو کی تیاری کسی پاکستانی چیک پوسٹ کے قریب کی گئی محسوس ہوتی ہے ۔تین منٹ ستائیس سیکنڈ کی طوالت رکھنے والی اس ویڈیو کی ریکارڈنگ میں یہ بھی دکھایا گیا ہے کہ دو امریکی اورچار کے قریب پاکستانی اہلکار پہاڑی چوٹی پرکھڑے اردگرد کے علاقے پرنظررکھےہوئے ہیں جب کہ ان کے درمیان میں زمین پر بیٹھے باقی افراد ایک دائرے کی صورت میں مسلسل میٹنگ کر رہے ہوتے ہیں۔

27جنوری کولاہور میں دو پاکستانیوں کے قتل کرنے کے بعد گرفتار ہونے والے مائیکل جارج فرنانڈس عرف ریمنڈڈیوس کے متعلق بھی یہ اطلاعات میڈیا رپورٹس کا حصہ بن چکی ہیں کہ پاکستان میں انتہاپسند گروپوں پر نظر رکھنے کے ساتھ اس کی ذمہ داری امریکی مفادات کے تحفظ کےلئے نیٹ ورکس کاقیام بھی تھا۔

پاکستانی وامریکی فوجیوں کی مشترکہ ویڈیو منظرعام پرآنے کے بعد ایک بار پھر یہ سوال سامنے آیا ہے کہ حکومت پاکستان عوامی سطح پرتوامریکی کارروائیوں کی مخالفت کرتی ہے لیکن درپردہ امریکی ایماء پرجاری جنگ کا اہم حصہ ہے۔



امریکی وپاکستانی افواج کی جانب سے کئے جانے والے مشترکہ یا انفرادی آپریشنز میں عسکریت پسندوں اور اتحادی افواج کے خلاف برسرپیکارطالبان کوختم کرنے کادعوی کیا جاتا رہاہے لیکن آزاد ذرائع اوراقوام متحدہ کی رپورٹس کے مطابق افغانستان میں 2001ء کے حملے کے بعد سے مرنے والوں کی بڑی تعدادعام سویلینزکی ہے۔گزشتہ برس کے حوالے سے جاری کی جانے والی اقوام متحدہ کی رپورٹ میں بھی یہ تسلیم کیا گیا ہے کہ 70فیصد سے زائد ہلاکتیں سویلینز کی ہیں۔

قبل ازیں آئی ایس آئی کے سابق سربراہ اور دفاعی تجزیہ نگار جنرل ریٹائرڈ حمید گل کا یہ کہناتھاکہ ریمنڈڈیوس ایشو پرسامنے آنے والی معلومات اور امریکی طرز عمل نے یہ طے کر دیا ہے کہ پاکستان کوعالمی قوت کے ساتھ اپنے تعلقات اور اس کے مفادات کی تکمیل کےلئے لڑی جانے والی جنگ میں اپنے کردار پر نظر ثانی کرنا ہو گی۔

آئی ایس آئی کے سربراہ لیفٹیننٹ جنرل شجاع پاشااورسی آئی اے کے سربراہ لیون پینٹا کے درمیان ہونے والے ٹیلیفونک رابطے میں امریکہ سے یہ مطالبہ کیا گیا ہےکہ وہ پاکستان میں موجود اپنے اہلکاروں کو بے نقاب کرے لیکن اب تک کھلے عام کی جانے والی مشترکہ کارروائیوں کے متعلق ریکارڈ کی سطح پرکوئی بات نہیں کی گئی ہے۔

یاد رہے کہ پاکستان میں سی آئی اے کے ایک ہزار سے زائد ایسے ایجنٹس کے متعلق اطلاعات بھی سامنے آچکی ہیں جنیں سویلین حکومت نے پاکستانی ایجنسی کو اوورکراس کر کے ملک میں آنے کی اجازت دی ہے۔


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