As I look through this group, this is one of few "discussions."
Kind of sad don't you think?
On Feb 11, 1:14 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank-
>
> You said "Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the point
> I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
> hypocritical nature of the poll?".
>
> That sounds like another officious hateful personal insult, to me.
> Another violation of the group rules by you.
>
> On 2/10/11, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the point
> > I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
> > hypocritical nature of the poll?
>
> > My comment to you on this thread was not hateful nor was it about you.
> > I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of the poll. To do that, I gave you
> > a point for point equivalency to what Democrats were saying during the
> > Bush years. Can you debate that or not?
>
> > And a second challenge to you.. point out where in this thread I made
> > hateful insults to you or anyone else.
>
> > On Feb 10, 1:20 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Although I get alot of hateful insults and negative arguments from
> >> Conservative
> >> Pundits, Libertarian Loons, Wingnut Fascists, and Republican
> >> Obstructionists, I still
> >> believe that my informative efforts are worthwhile.
>
> >> Frank, I suggest that you should refrain from looking in the mirror, as it
> >> may well shatter if you do.
>
> >> On 2/6/11, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Tommy,
>
> >> > As previously noted, the responses from this poll are absolutely no
> >> > different than the responses given by Democrats during Bush's final
> >> > six years. The problem is you're so blinded by your bias that you
> >> > can't even tell you're looking into a mirror.
>
> >> > On Feb 6, 9:13 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Well, around here, it's sort of all part of the vast
> >> >> evangelical-church-Republican-politics-"America"-first rightwing
> >> >> thing. People learn from their ministers that God tolerates only
> >> >> Republican politics and FOX News, and that "America" is exceptional,
> >> >> so it's fully equipped--nay, required--to protect Israel so that Jesus
> >> >> can return and they can be raptured before the really bad stuff
> >> >> happens; then, they get to come back with Jesus and throw all the
> >> >> "unperfected" Jews into the pit of fire, along with all the rest of us
> >> >> who tolerated and cared for our fellow humans. I could go on, but I
> >> >> already feel bad just for writing that much, and all it is is the
> >> >> truth. But people who watch it believe FOX because they want to, and
> >> >> because they believe it's the right thing to do.
>
> >> >> On 2/6/11, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> > And yet MORE fallacy.
> >> >> > Whether or not the Author is this, that or the other is MEANINGLESS
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > far
> >> >> > as the veracity of his claim.
> >> >> > Similarly, with what group he may or may not be aligned (or purported
> >> >> > so) is
> >> >> > equally MEANINGLESS.
>
> >> >> > Regard$,
> >> >> > --MJ
>
> >> >> > Since World War II, and especially since the 1950s, the function of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Republican Party has been to be the "loyal, . . . . moderate,"
> >> >> > "bi-partisan," pseudo-opposition to the collectivist and leftist
> >> >> > program
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the Democratic Party. Unlike the more apocalyptic and impatient
> >> >> > Bolsheviks,
> >> >> > the Mensheviks (or social democrats, or corporate liberals, or
> >> >> > "responsible"
> >> >> > liberals, or "responsible" conservatives, or neo-conservatives -- the
> >> >> > labels
> >> >> > change, but the reality remains the same) try to preserve an illusion
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > free choice for the American public, including a two-party system,
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > least marginal freedom of speech and expression.
>
> >> >> > The goal of these "responsible" or "enlightened" moderates has been
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > participate in the march to statism, while replacing the older
> >> >> > American
> >> >> > ideals of free markets, private property, and limited government with
> >> >> > cloudy
> >> >> > and noisy rhetoric about the glories of "democracy," as opposed to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > one-party dictatorship of the Soviet Union.
>
> >> >> > -- Murray Rothbard, Making Economic Sense
>
> >> >> > At 08:49 AM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>
> >> >> >> Here's a little about the author, Jonathan Kantrowitz, from which
> >> >> >> Tom
> >> >> >> cites his purported "poll":
>
> >> >> >> Founder, Chief Executive Officer. Queue, Inc., an educational
> >> >> >> publisher.
> >> >> >> 1981-present; Assistant General Counsel. Touche Ross & Co.
> >> >> >> 1977-1981;
> >> >> >> Coordinator, Fairfield Over-30 Men's Soccer, 1987-present; Member,
> >> >> >> Fairfield Board of Education, 1992-1994; Member, Fairfield Board of
> >> >> >> Recreation, 1998-1999; Member, Fairfield TV Access Committee,
> >> >> >> 2008-2009,
> >> >> >> Economic Development Administrator, Town of Fairfield (consultant)
> >> >> >> 2002;
> >> >> >> Chairman, Fairfield Temporary Pool Committee, 2004, Chairman,
> >> >> >> Fairfield
> >> >> >> TV
> >> >> >> Access Committee, 2008; Member, Fairfield Democratic Town Committee,
> >> >> >> 1972-2002; Vice-Chairman, Fairfield Democratic Town Committee,
> >> >> >> 1994-2000;
> >> >> >> Democratic Candidate, U.S. Congress, 1994, 1998, State Senate 1972,
> >> >> >> 1984;
> >> >> >> Education:; Brown University: B.A. Economics (1966); Harvard Law
> >> >> >> School:
> >> >> >> JD (1969).
>
> >> >> >> A couple of thoughts come to mind. First, Kantrowitz is a prime
> >> >> >> example
> >> >> >> of an "Academian" and the reason that our schools and universites
> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> such a mess. I would bet that Kantrowitz is a socialist also, but
> >> >> >> there
> >> >> >> can be no doubt that Kantrowitz has posted a hate filled prevaricate
> >> >> >> rhetorical post, and this is an example of what he teaches his
> >> >> >> pupils.
>
> >> >> >> Who took this poll? Who were the participants of the poll? Note
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> Kantrowitz does not reference any of these most important aspects.
> >> >> >> The
> >> >> >> poll is basically not at all reliable and is another example of the
> >> >> >> hate
> >> >> >> coming from the far left extremist Anti-American socialistic
> >> >> >> movement
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> is very vocal, but still nevertheless a small minority of our
> >> >> >> Nation.
> >> >> >> They should not be in charge of our schools and universities of
> >> >> >> higher
> >> >> >> education.
>
> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:15 AM, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Tommy,
>
> >> >> >> Change the names of the talking heads and politicians, replace ACORN
> >> >> >> stealing the election to simply stealing the election, replace
> >> >> >> socialist with communist, impeached can stay in there, replace
> >> >> >> "wants
> >> >> >> the terrorists to win" with "9/11 was an inside job", etc., and we
> >> >> >> could be discussing what the Democrats were saying about Bush a few
> >> >> >> years ago. This type of hateful rhetoric solves nothing, is not
> >> >> >> unique
> >> >> >> to either party and generally just proves there are a lot of
> >> >> >> intolerant idiots in both political parties.
>
> >> >> >> On Feb 4, 8:40 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > I Think, Therefore I am Not
> >> >> >> > Glenn Beck.......Sarah Palin.....Ann Coulter....Rush
> >> >> >> > Limbaugh....Michelle Bachmann.....Christine O`Donnell....John
> >> >> >> > McCain....John Boehner.......Newt Gingrich.......Ron
> >> >> >> > Paul.........Mitt
> >> >> >> > Romney..........Mitch McConnell.........The Tea Party
> >> >> >> > Sheeple......A
> >> >> >> > Faux Noise Pundit.....A Republican Obstructionist......A
> >> >> >> > Libertarian
> >> >> >> > Loon..etc.
>
> >> >> >> > Republican Intelligence – an Oxymoron?
>
> >> >> >> > by Jonathan Kantrowitz
>
> >> >> >> > A new poll of self-identified Republicans released Tuesday shows a
> >> >> >> > large slice of the GOP believes President Barack Obama is a
> >> >> >> > "socialist" who was not born in this country, should be impeached,
> >> >> >> > wants the terrorists to win and only won the 2008 election because
> >> >> >> > ACORN "stole" it for him.
>
> >> >> >> > According to the poll, 63 percent of Republicans believe Obama is
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > socialist; 39 percent think Obama should be impeached; 24 percent
> >> >> >> > said
> >> >> >> > Obama wants "the terrorists to win"; and 31 percent agreed with
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > statement that Obama is "a racist who hates white people."
>
> >> >> >> > According to the survey, 36 percent of respondents do not believe
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > president was born in this country, and 21 percent think the
> >> >> >> > liberal
> >> >> >> > advocacy group ACORN stole the election for Obama.
>
> >> >> >> > Meanwhile, nearly a quarter of the Republicans polled, 23 percent,
> >> >> >> > want their state to secede from the union.
>
> >> >> >> > Fifty-one percent of those polled believe sex education should not
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > taught in schools; 77 percent want creationism taught in schools;
> >> >> >> > 31
> >> >> >> > percent want contraception outlawed; and 34 percent believe birth
> >> >> >> > control is "abortion."
>
> >> >> >> > More:
> >> >> >> >http://blog.ctnews.com/kantrowitz/2010/02/04/republican-intelligence-.
> >> >> >> > ..
>
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> >> >> >> > Have a great day,
> >> >> >> > Tommy
>
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