You said "Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the point
I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
hypocritical nature of the poll?".
That sounds like another officious hateful personal insult, to me.
Another violation of the group rules by you.
On 2/10/11, frankg <frankg2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the point
> I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
> hypocritical nature of the poll?
>
> My comment to you on this thread was not hateful nor was it about you.
> I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of the poll. To do that, I gave you
> a point for point equivalency to what Democrats were saying during the
> Bush years. Can you debate that or not?
>
> And a second challenge to you.. point out where in this thread I made
> hateful insults to you or anyone else.
>
>
> On Feb 10, 1:20 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Although I get alot of hateful insults and negative arguments from
>> Conservative
>> Pundits, Libertarian Loons, Wingnut Fascists, and Republican
>> Obstructionists, I still
>> believe that my informative efforts are worthwhile.
>>
>> Frank, I suggest that you should refrain from looking in the mirror, as it
>> may well shatter if you do.
>>
>> On 2/6/11, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Tommy,
>>
>> > As previously noted, the responses from this poll are absolutely no
>> > different than the responses given by Democrats during Bush's final
>> > six years. The problem is you're so blinded by your bias that you
>> > can't even tell you're looking into a mirror.
>>
>> > On Feb 6, 9:13 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Well, around here, it's sort of all part of the vast
>> >> evangelical-church-Republican-politics-"America"-first rightwing
>> >> thing. People learn from their ministers that God tolerates only
>> >> Republican politics and FOX News, and that "America" is exceptional,
>> >> so it's fully equipped--nay, required--to protect Israel so that Jesus
>> >> can return and they can be raptured before the really bad stuff
>> >> happens; then, they get to come back with Jesus and throw all the
>> >> "unperfected" Jews into the pit of fire, along with all the rest of us
>> >> who tolerated and cared for our fellow humans. I could go on, but I
>> >> already feel bad just for writing that much, and all it is is the
>> >> truth. But people who watch it believe FOX because they want to, and
>> >> because they believe it's the right thing to do.
>>
>> >> On 2/6/11, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > And yet MORE fallacy.
>> >> > Whether or not the Author is this, that or the other is MEANINGLESS
>> >> > as
>> >> > far
>> >> > as the veracity of his claim.
>> >> > Similarly, with what group he may or may not be aligned (or purported
>> >> > so) is
>> >> > equally MEANINGLESS.
>>
>> >> > Regard$,
>> >> > --MJ
>>
>> >> > Since World War II, and especially since the 1950s, the function of
>> >> > the
>> >> > Republican Party has been to be the "loyal, . . . . moderate,"
>> >> > "bi-partisan," pseudo-opposition to the collectivist and leftist
>> >> > program
>> >> > of
>> >> > the Democratic Party. Unlike the more apocalyptic and impatient
>> >> > Bolsheviks,
>> >> > the Mensheviks (or social democrats, or corporate liberals, or
>> >> > "responsible"
>> >> > liberals, or "responsible" conservatives, or neo-conservatives -- the
>> >> > labels
>> >> > change, but the reality remains the same) try to preserve an illusion
>> >> > of
>> >> > free choice for the American public, including a two-party system,
>> >> > and
>> >> > at
>> >> > least marginal freedom of speech and expression.
>>
>> >> > The goal of these "responsible" or "enlightened" moderates has been
>> >> > to
>> >> > participate in the march to statism, while replacing the older
>> >> > American
>> >> > ideals of free markets, private property, and limited government with
>> >> > cloudy
>> >> > and noisy rhetoric about the glories of "democracy," as opposed to
>> >> > the
>> >> > one-party dictatorship of the Soviet Union.
>>
>> >> > -- Murray Rothbard, Making Economic Sense
>>
>> >> > At 08:49 AM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Here's a little about the author, Jonathan Kantrowitz, from which
>> >> >> Tom
>> >> >> cites his purported "poll":
>>
>> >> >> Founder, Chief Executive Officer. Queue, Inc., an educational
>> >> >> publisher.
>> >> >> 1981-present; Assistant General Counsel. Touche Ross & Co.
>> >> >> 1977-1981;
>> >> >> Coordinator, Fairfield Over-30 Men's Soccer, 1987-present; Member,
>> >> >> Fairfield Board of Education, 1992-1994; Member, Fairfield Board of
>> >> >> Recreation, 1998-1999; Member, Fairfield TV Access Committee,
>> >> >> 2008-2009,
>> >> >> Economic Development Administrator, Town of Fairfield (consultant)
>> >> >> 2002;
>> >> >> Chairman, Fairfield Temporary Pool Committee, 2004, Chairman,
>> >> >> Fairfield
>> >> >> TV
>> >> >> Access Committee, 2008; Member, Fairfield Democratic Town Committee,
>> >> >> 1972-2002; Vice-Chairman, Fairfield Democratic Town Committee,
>> >> >> 1994-2000;
>> >> >> Democratic Candidate, U.S. Congress, 1994, 1998, State Senate 1972,
>> >> >> 1984;
>> >> >> Education:; Brown University: B.A. Economics (1966); Harvard Law
>> >> >> School:
>> >> >> JD (1969).
>>
>> >> >> A couple of thoughts come to mind. First, Kantrowitz is a prime
>> >> >> example
>> >> >> of an "Academian" and the reason that our schools and universites
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> such a mess. I would bet that Kantrowitz is a socialist also, but
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> can be no doubt that Kantrowitz has posted a hate filled prevaricate
>> >> >> rhetorical post, and this is an example of what he teaches his
>> >> >> pupils.
>>
>> >> >> Who took this poll? Who were the participants of the poll? Note
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> Kantrowitz does not reference any of these most important aspects.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> poll is basically not at all reliable and is another example of the
>> >> >> hate
>> >> >> coming from the far left extremist Anti-American socialistic
>> >> >> movement
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> is very vocal, but still nevertheless a small minority of our
>> >> >> Nation.
>> >> >> They should not be in charge of our schools and universities of
>> >> >> higher
>> >> >> education.
>>
>> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:15 AM, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Tommy,
>>
>> >> >> Change the names of the talking heads and politicians, replace ACORN
>> >> >> stealing the election to simply stealing the election, replace
>> >> >> socialist with communist, impeached can stay in there, replace
>> >> >> "wants
>> >> >> the terrorists to win" with "9/11 was an inside job", etc., and we
>> >> >> could be discussing what the Democrats were saying about Bush a few
>> >> >> years ago. This type of hateful rhetoric solves nothing, is not
>> >> >> unique
>> >> >> to either party and generally just proves there are a lot of
>> >> >> intolerant idiots in both political parties.
>>
>> >> >> On Feb 4, 8:40 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > I Think, Therefore I am Not
>> >> >> > Glenn Beck.......Sarah Palin.....Ann Coulter....Rush
>> >> >> > Limbaugh....Michelle Bachmann.....Christine O`Donnell....John
>> >> >> > McCain....John Boehner.......Newt Gingrich.......Ron
>> >> >> > Paul.........Mitt
>> >> >> > Romney..........Mitch McConnell.........The Tea Party
>> >> >> > Sheeple......A
>> >> >> > Faux Noise Pundit.....A Republican Obstructionist......A
>> >> >> > Libertarian
>> >> >> > Loon..etc.
>>
>> >> >> > Republican Intelligence – an Oxymoron?
>>
>> >> >> > by Jonathan Kantrowitz
>>
>> >> >> > A new poll of self-identified Republicans released Tuesday shows a
>> >> >> > large slice of the GOP believes President Barack Obama is a
>> >> >> > "socialist" who was not born in this country, should be impeached,
>> >> >> > wants the terrorists to win and only won the 2008 election because
>> >> >> > ACORN "stole" it for him.
>>
>> >> >> > According to the poll, 63 percent of Republicans believe Obama is
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > socialist; 39 percent think Obama should be impeached; 24 percent
>> >> >> > said
>> >> >> > Obama wants "the terrorists to win"; and 31 percent agreed with
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > statement that Obama is "a racist who hates white people."
>>
>> >> >> > According to the survey, 36 percent of respondents do not believe
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > president was born in this country, and 21 percent think the
>> >> >> > liberal
>> >> >> > advocacy group ACORN stole the election for Obama.
>>
>> >> >> > Meanwhile, nearly a quarter of the Republicans polled, 23 percent,
>> >> >> > want their state to secede from the union.
>>
>> >> >> > Fifty-one percent of those polled believe sex education should not
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > taught in schools; 77 percent want creationism taught in schools;
>> >> >> > 31
>> >> >> > percent want contraception outlawed; and 34 percent believe birth
>> >> >> > control is "abortion."
>>
>> >> >> > More:
>> >> >> >http://blog.ctnews.com/kantrowitz/2010/02/04/republican-intelligence-.
>> >> >> > ..
>>
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> > Have a great day,
>> >> >> > Tommy
>>
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>> >> Have a great day,
>> >> Tommy
>>
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>> Have a great day,
>> Tommy
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