Re: Tucson Shooter Jared Loughner was inspired by right-wing conspiracy theory, in Zeitgeist

(N)ational (P)ropaganda for (R)ockefeller 'Analyses' of the Tucson Shooter
Posted by David Kramer on January 23, 2011 03:46 PM

Notice in this NPR interview done two weeks after the Tucson shooting that of the five people interviewed, the sound bite from the only interviewee who isn't pro-government/left-wing is very short and nebulous. Nothing from him even about the fact that some of the shooter's reading materials were Communist/left-wing in nature (e.g., The Communist Manifesto). In other words, two weeks after this shooting when more information has come out about the shooter having basically no political leanings one way or the other, NPR is still trying to convince its predominantly left-wing sheeple listeners that the shooter was a right-wing, anti-government, anti-fiat currency (i.e., anti-Rockefeller) conspiracy nut.

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/23/133156205/A-Look-Inside-Loughners-Mind-Reveals-Our-Own

Re: The Truth:

I wouldn't say Jesus was a Socialist and he did use force that one
time in the temple (maybe that was a mistake)

in righteousness he doth judge and make war

11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat
upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth
judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns;
and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is
called The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses,
clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should
smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he
treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+19&version=KJV

On Jan 23, 10:55 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Truth:
> President Obama is *not* a brown skinned anti war socialist who gives
> away free Health Care.
>
> You are thinking of Jesus Christ.
>
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy

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Re: Tucson Shooter Jared Loughner was inspired by right-wing conspiracy theory, in Zeitgeist

If you pay any attention to Michelle Goldberg then you are an idiot.
She should be working with Katherine Vanden Heuvel at The Nation
magazine, that communist publication (don't believe me, check the
history of it).

On 01/23/2011 10:11 AM, Tommy News wrote:
> The Cult Web Film that Inspired Loughner
>
> by Michelle Goldberg
>
> We now know a little bit more about the matrix of ideas that helped
> inspire Jared Loughner's murderous rampage on Saturday. According to a
> friend of his interviewed on Good Morning America on Wednesday, the
> conspiracy documentary Zeitgeist "poured gasoline on his fire" and had
> "a profound impact on Jared Loughner's mindset and how he views the
> world that he lives in." He was also, according to his friend's
> father, influenced by the documentary Loose Change, a classic of the
> 9/11 Truth movement. This does not mean that either of these movies is
> responsible for making Loughner do what he did, but it does show how
> his madness was shaped by a broader climate of paranoia, and offers a
> clue as to why he targeted Gabrielle Giffords.
>
> According to his friend, Zach Osler, Loughner "didn't listen to
> political radio, he didn't take sides, he wasn't on the left, he
> wasn't on the right." Naturally, conservatives have seized upon this
> to exonerate themselves of charges of incitement. But it's not that
> simple. It's hard to place Zeitgeist and Loose Change on the
> conventional partisan spectrum—both come from a shadowy conspiracy-mad
> subculture where the far right and the far left meet. Yet it's the
> contemporary right, the right of Glenn Beck and the Tea Party, that
> has mainstreamed ideas from this demimonde in an unprecedented way.
>
> To understand how, it helps to look at the career of Alex Jones, an
> Austin radio host and the country's most prominent conspiracy
> theorist. Jones was the executive producer of Loose Change, and chunks
> of Zeitgeist are taken from his documentary Terrorstorm. Jones
> disagrees with elements of Zeitgeist—he's a Christian, while Zeitgeist
> attacks religion—but he's said he supports 90 percent of what's in the
> movie, and he promotes it on his show. "A lot of people find my work
> because of Zeitgeist," he said during an interview with the
> documentary's director, Peter Joseph.
>
> The point, again, is not that Alex Jones, Zeitgeist, or The Tea Party
> are responsible for Loughner's crimes. The point is that he targeted
> Giffords for a reason, one rooted in his unhinged interpretation of
> recognizable conspiracy theories.
>
> Both Zeitgeist and Alex Jones promote the idea that world events are
> controlled by a secretive banking cabal that is using debt to enslave
> us all. Zeitgeist echoes Alex Jones in warning that the United States
> is about to be merged with Canada and Mexico into a "North American
> Union" that will use a new currency, the "Amero." "When the time is
> right," Zeitgeist informs us, "the North American Union, The European
> Union, the African Union, and the Asian Union will be merged together,
> forming the final stages of the plan these men have been working on
> for over 60 years: a one-world government." This government will
> implant microchips in all of our arms. "In the end, everybody will be
> locked into a monitored control grid, where every single action you
> perform is documented," it says.
>
> Zeitgeist, which came out in 2007 and has since spawned two sequels,
> is an Internet phenomenon. The two-hour documentary is available for
> free online, and according to its creators, it has been viewed tens of
> millions of times. Its claims are heatedly debated on Ron Paul forums
> and anarchist websites; excerpts appear on numerous Tea Party pages.
> It has a global following: When it played in a South African theater,
> the Cape Times described it as a "disturbing reminder" of "the subtle
> move towards a micro-chipped society, with the world's population
> potentially destined to be logged onto a monitored grid, leading up to
> a centralized one world economy."
>
> The idea of control and manipulation is the movie's real theme,
> knitting together its disparate parts. Zeitgeist's second-third
> rehashes classic 9/11 Truth theories that purport to show that the
> attacks were actually an inside job. This was done, the final section
> argues, at the behest of a banking cabal that has repeatedly goaded
> the United States into war in order to solidify its wealth and power.
> Chip Berlet, a senior analyst at the think tank Political Research
> Associates and one of the country's foremost experts on right-wing
> movements, points out that Zeitgeist borrows liberally from the G.
> Edward Griffin's The Creature from Jekyll Island, an "expose" of the
> Federal Reserve System popular with the John Birch Society, Alex
> Jones, and some Tea Party groups. It also draws on ideas from the
> Protocols of the Elders of Zion, though it never mentions Jews.
>
> Right-wing conspiratorial beliefs have long festered on the fringes,
> but in the Obama era, they've been injected into the center of our
> politics like never before. The distance between figures like Alex
> Jones and the contemporary conservative movement has shrunk
> alarmingly.
>
> Steeped in the rhetoric of the militia movement, Jones has promoted
> just about every conspiracy theory out there: He even accused the
> Illuminati of putting its symbols in the Starbucks logo as a taunting
> show of strength. Though rooted in the right, he also occasionally has
> guests from the far left—he's hosted Democratic Congressman Dennis
> Kucinich [Kucinich is on the "far left"? -- WH] as well as Texas
> Republican Louie Gohmert. His political hero is Ron Paul—he runs
> RonPaulWarRoom.com, and Paul is a frequent guest on his radio show.
> But until recently, most conservatives disdained him. In 2007,
> Michelle Malkin argued that Paul's association with Jones was enough
> to disqualify the congressman from participating in GOP primary
> debates.
>
> Since then, though, Republican politics have become a lot more
> paranoid. Tea Party groups and Fox News started echoing Jones'
> warnings that the swine flu virus was really a pretext to establish
> martial law. Lou Dobbs went on Jones' show in 2008 to discuss the
> coming North American Union. In March 2009, Jones released The Obama
> Deception, which argued that Obama is the front man for a
> transnational oligarchy working to create a one-world totalitarian
> state. The day after it came out, the online Fox News show Freedom
> Watch did a joint broadcast with him. "I appreciate what you're
> exposing," Fox host Andrew Napolitano told Jones. "I must tell you
> that there was a time when the types of things that you are warning
> against was not discussed openly and publicly." Glenn Beck
> fictionalized Jones-style conspiracy theories in his 9/11 truth-themed
> novel, The Overton Window.
>
> People who study the right have worried for months about the
> consequences of paranoid beliefs about treasonous government plots. In
> 2009, Berlet authored a report titled, "Toxic to Democracy: Conspiracy
> Theories, Demonization and Scapegoating." It traced the history and
> dissemination of the kind of conspiracy theories floating around the
> right, and said, "People who believe conspiracist allegations
> sometimes act on those irrational beliefs, and this has concrete
> consequences in the real world."
>
> Loughner was caught up in the sort of conspiratorial fantasy Berlet
> was describing. His YouTube videos are often unintelligible, but in
> their moments of lucidity, they rail against manipulation of the
> currency system and the illegitimate power of the federal government,
> obsessions of the right-wing populist milieu. In this milieu,
> politicians like Gabrielle Giffords weren't simply wrong, they were
> agents of an intolerable tyranny manipulating the economy and turning
> Americans into slaves. Hence the vitriol and intimations of violence
> that scared Giffords and her staff well before Saturday's shooting.
>
> The point, again, is not that Alex Jones, Zeitgeist, or The Tea Party
> are responsible for Loughner's crimes. The point is that he targeted
> Giffords for a reason, one rooted in his unhinged interpretation of
> recognizable conspiracy theories. Right-wing activists and politicians
> have traded on such theories, giving them far more mainstream exposure
> and credibility than they ever had before. Experts on political
> violence have been arguing for months that this is extremely
> dangerous. People like Loughner are the reason why.
>
> To read it all:
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-13/zeitgeist-the-documentary-that-may-have-shaped-jared-loughners-worldview/
>
>

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What You Need To Know About Your Rights At The Airport

What You Need To Know About Your Rights At The Airport
http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2010/11/23/what-you-need-to-know-about-your-rights-at-the-airport/

   1. TSA "screeners" are not law enforcement officers. Despite wearing police-type uniforms and calling themselves "officers", they have no police powers and no immunity from any state or local laws. At some airports, notably San Francisco (SFO) and Kansas City (MCI), they aren’t government employees at all, but rent-a-cops employed by a private contractor. They cannot legally arrest or detain you (except as a citizen’s arrest, the same way you can arrest them if they commit assault or battery). All they can do is call the local police.

   2. You have the right to remain silent, including when questioned by TSA "Behavior Detection Officers." Anything you say may be used against you.

   3. You have the 1st Amendment right to film, photograph, and record what happens in public areas of airports, including your interactions with TSA and screeners.  Photography and recording in airports and at TSA checkpoints violates no Federal law or TSA regulation. Any state or local laws that purport to prohibit this are likely to be unconstitutional. You have the right, for your own protection, to document what happens to you and what is done to you.

   4. You have the right not to be assaulted or battered (sexually or otherwise), falsely arrested, unlawfully detained, or kidnapped. You should consult the applicable laws, including local laws, and/or an attorney if you plan to do any of these things, but you have the right to make a criminal complaint and/or a citizen’s arrest of someone who assaults you, and/or to sue them for damages.

   5. Under most airlines’ conditions of carriage, you have the right to a full and unconditional refund if the airline refuses to transport you because you won’t show ID or won’t "consent" to whatever they want to do to you in the name of "screening." Read this first: Here’s what to do to protect your right to a refund [1]. If the airline refuses to give you a full refund, you can sue them for damages and request that the US Department of Transportation investigate and fine them.

   6. If an airline cancels your reservation or refuses to transport you[2], you may be entitled to collect damages, and you can request that the US Department of Transportation (and, if you were denied passage to the USA from another country, that country’s authorities) investigate and fine or impose other sanctions on the airline.

   7. You have the right to freedom of movement, guaranteed by the First Amendment ("the right of the people… peaceably to assemble") and Article 12 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)[3], a human rights treaty to which the US is a party: "Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. Everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his own.... No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country." Federal law (49 USC § 40101, part of the Airline Deregulation Act of 1978)[4] requires the TSA to consider "the public right of freedom of transit" by air when it issues regulations.

[1] http://papersplease.org/wp/2010/11/23/airlines-threaten-illegal-actions-against-travelers-who-opt-out-of-groping/
[2] http://papersplease.org/wp/2010/10/18/airlines-to-cancel-reservations-and-deny-passage-to-travelers-who-wont-provide-secure-flight-info/
[3] http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/ccpr.htm#art12
[4] http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/49/usc_sec_49_00040101----000-.html

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Re: Keith Olbermann Leaves ‘Countdown’, But His Legacy Remains on MSNBC

On Jan 23, 10:05 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:

That explains it all! Tommie thinks Olbermann is both " funny, smart
AND entertaining "!

***********************************************************************************************
>
> Keith Olberman will find another network. He is very entertaining,
> smart and funny.
>

>
>
>
> > Like on most issues, you are obviously missing the big picture here Lil'
> > Tommie;
>
> > "Olbermann 'was'  the highest rated host on MSNBC";  is just like saying,
> > "Olbermann was listened to by only a very small fringe element",  and
> > whatever NBC's thoughts were,  whether NBC gambled and thought that they
> > could attract a large audience of Moonbats; or whether the folks (who are on
> > their way out) at NBC let their personal opinions get in the way, and they
> > believed the kind of crap that MSNBC was broadcasting,  matters none
> > anymore.  It was a dismal failure,  never profitable,  very
> > un-American,  and it ruined a once fine news network/broadcasting
> > company.  NBC News became a laughing stock.  NBC News was no longer credible
> > as a news agency.  Tom Brokaw and others cringed at the likes of Chris
> > Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, and others.   NBC attempted to put these
> > indivudals up on their networks as legitimate news reporters, and they were
> > not.  They were biased, partisan hacks, who espoused a point of view that
> > was very much believed in, and catered to, by a very smalll minority of
> > people in this Nation, the individuals like you who are misguided, and who
> > have Marxist and communist tendencies.
>
> > No matter,  it's done now, and hopefully NBC can rebuild its reputation as a
> > legitimate news agency,  like FOX News, which is the LEADER in the news
> > gathering business today!  The opinion shows on FOX News that you reference,
> > (Not news shows Lil' Tommie) that you so hate and despise, are popular
> > beyond belief!   Whether you like it, or don't like it,  get used to
> > it!  FOX News is now the leader in news gathering, and their opinion
> > shows ain't going no-where!!!
>
> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Not annoyed, amused. Say Goodnight Faux Noise, Glenn Beck, Gretchen
> >> Van Snide of Mouth, Ann Coulter, Pitbull Palin, and The Rest Of The
> >> Crazy Wing Nut Unfair and Unbalanced Pundits
>
> >>  On 1/22/11, Sage2 <wisdom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >             As an old radio talk show host Jerry Williams often would
> >> > ask ! " What's the matter Tommy ? You sound ANNOYED " !
>
> >> ***************************************************************************­************************************************************
>
> >> > On Jan 22, 11:56 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Say Goodnight Faux Noise, Glenn Beck, Gretchen Van Snide of Mouth and
> >> >> The Rest Of The Crazy Wing Nut Unfair and Unbalanced Pundits
>
> >> >> On 1/22/11, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >  Once Comcast completes the buy-out from G.E.,  rest assured that
> >> >> > NBC,
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > MSNBC will return to profitability, and hopefully, a sense of
> >> >> > rationality.
> >> >> > I tend to believe this is the reason that Moonbat extradordiniare
> >> >> > Olbermann
> >> >> > flew the coop now, versus being termianted.  The writing was on the
> >> >> > wall.
> >> >> > Say G'Night Maddow, Schultz, and the rest of the crazy
> >> >> > Anti-American's.....Your fifteen minutes of fame are over!
>
> >> >> >> Olbermann Leaves 'Countdown' on MSNBC
> >> >> >> By BILL CARTER
>
> >> >> >> Virginia Sherwood/MSNBC
>
> >> >> >> Keith Olbermann in November.
> >> >> >> 12:05 a.m. | Updated Keith Olbermann, the highest-rated host on
> >> MSNBC,
> >> >> >> announced abruptly on the air Friday night that he was leaving his
> >> >> >> show, "Countdown," immediately.
>
> >> >> >> The host, who has had a stormy relationship with the management of
> >> the
> >> >> >> network for some time, especially since he was suspended for two
> >> >> >> days
> >> >> >> last November, came to an agreement with NBC's corporate management
> >> >> >> late this week to settle his contract and step down.
>
> >> >> >> In a closing statement on his show, Mr. Olbermann said simply that
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> would be the last edition of the program. He offered no explanation
> >> >> >> other than on occasion "all that surrounded the show – but never the
> >> >> >> show itself – was just too much for me."
>
> >> >> >> Mr. Olbermann thanked his viewers for their enthusiastic support of
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> show that had "gradually established its position as
> >> >> >> antiestablishment."
>
> >> >> >> In a statement, MSNBC said: "MSNBC and Keith Olbermann have ended
> >> >> >> their contract. The last broadcast of 'Countdown with Keith
> >> Olbermann'
> >> >> >> will be this evening. MSNBC thanks Keith for his integral role in
> >> >> >> MSNBC's success and we wish him well in his future endeavors."
>
> >> >> >> NBC executives said the move had nothing to do with the impending
> >> >> >> takeover of NBC Universal by Comcast. With viewers and fans of Mr.
> >> >> >> Olbermann suggesting that Comcast was responsible for forcing Mr.
> >> >> >> Olbermann out, Comcast also released an official statement late
> >> Friday
> >> >> >> night:
>
> >> >> >> "Comcast has not closed the transaction for NBC Universal and has no
> >> >> >> operational control at any of its properties including MSNBC. We
> >> >> >> pledged from the day the deal was announced that we would not
> >> >> >> interfere with NBC Universal's news operations. We have not and we
> >> >> >> will not."
>
> >> >> >> MSNBC announced that "The Last Word" with Lawrence O'Donnell would
> >> >> >> replace "Countdown" at 8 p.m., with "The Ed Show" with Ed Schultz
> >> >> >> taking Mr. O'Donnell's slot at 10 p.m. Mr. Olbermann did not discuss
> >> >> >> any future plans, but NBC executives said one term of his settlement
> >> >> >> would keep him from moving to another network for an extended period
> >> >> >> of time.
>
> >> >> >> Mr. Olbermann signed a four-year contract extension in 2008 for an
> >> >> >> estimated $30 million. He had hosted "Countdown" at 8 p.m. since
> >> >> >> 2003
> >> >> >> and it became the foundation of the channel's surge to its status as
> >> >> >> the second-ranked news channel on cable television, after Fox News,
> >> >> >> surpassing the one-time leader CNN.
>
> >> >> >> Mr. Olbermann's outspoken, and sometimes controversial, support of
> >> >> >> liberal positions and Democratic candidates redefined MSNBC from a
> >> >> >> neutral news channel to one that openly offered a voice to viewers
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> the left, much as Fox News has done for conservatives.
>
> >> >> >> Mr. Olbermann challenged Fox News publicly on numerous occasions,
> >> >> >> especially the top-rated cable host Bill O'Reilly.
>
> >> >> >> Ratings for Mr. Olbermann's show grew, though he never approached
> >> >> >> Mr.
> >> >> >> O'Reilly's level of popularity. But he helped expand the MSNBC brand
> >> >> >> by his frequent invitations to Rachel Maddow, who was eventually
> >> >> >> offered her own show on MSNBC.
>
> >> >> >> Ms. Maddow became the 9 p.m. host following Mr. Olbermann and has
> >> >> >> built such a successful show that some NBC executives felt less
> >> >> >> concerned about losing Mr. Olbermann as the signature star of the
> >> >> >> network.
>
> >> >> >> According to several senior network executives, NBC's management had
> >> >> >> been close to firing Mr. Olbermann on previous occasions, most
> >> >> >> recently in November after he revealed that he had made donations to
> >> >> >> several Democratic candidates in 2010 — one of them, coincidentally,
> >> >> >> was Representative Gabrielle Giffords, who has been the subject of
> >> >> >> many of his recent shows after being shot in an assassination
> >> attempt.
>
> >> >> >> The top MSNBC executive, Phil Griffin, said the donations had
> >> violated
> >> >> >> NBC News standards and ordered Mr. Olbermann suspended. His fans
> >> >> >> responded with a petition to reinstate him that attracted over
> >> 250,000
> >> >> >> signatures. Mr. Olbermann returned two days later. In his response
> >> >> >> he
> >> >> >> said the rules on donations had been "inconsistently applied."
>
> >> >> >> More:
>
> >>http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/olbermann-hosts-last...
>
> >> >> >> Keith Olbermann out at MSNBC
> >> >> >> By Greg Sargent
> >> >> >> So Keith Olbermann is out. As best as I can tell, none of the news
> >> >> >> accounts about his departure have gotten to the bottom of what
> >> >> >> happened here. But Olbermann himself offered enough clues in his
> >> final
> >> >> >> broadcast for us to reasonably speculate that he abruptly got the
> >> >> >> ax,
> >> >> >> perhaps even as late as last night.
>
> >> >> >> A "knowledgeable official" at MSNBC told Howard Kurtz that the
> >> >> >> separation was "mutual." But it's hard to see how that squares with
> >> >> >> this, from Olbermann's last words on Countdown last night:
>
> >> >> >> "I think the same fantasy has popped into the head of everybody in
> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> business who has ever been told what I have been told, that this is
> >> >> >> going to be the last edition of your show. You go directly to the
> >> >> >> scene from the movie 'Network,' complete with the pajamas, and the
> >> >> >> raincoat, and you go off on an existential, otherworldly journey of
> >> >> >> profundity and vision...
>
> >> >> >> "When I resigned from ESPN 13 and a half years ago, I was literally
> >> >> >> given 30 seconds to say goodbye at the very end of my last edition
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> "Sports Center." As God is my witness, in the commercial break just
> >> >> >> before the emotional moment, the producer got into my earpiece and
>
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