Sunday, January 16, 2011

FW: The push to end free speech

this is NOT about censorship so much as about physical reality.
 


 
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 14:05:37 -0800
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Subject: The push to end free speech
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    An Article in The Daily Page, http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/article.php?article=31851 , they discuss amending the Constitution to state that a corporation is NOT a citizen and therefore has no place in the political debate.  The article is critical of the push to remove corps from out electorial process.  I FULLY support removing anything but individual HUMAN BEING citizen from the political discussion as participants.  Holding nonhumans as TOPIC of political debate IS acceptable, in my opinion.  But then, this is just...
 
 
How i see the topic.

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The Obama Future: The ghost of Thanksgivings to come!!

"Winston, come into the dining room, it's time to eat," Julia yelled to her husband. 

 

 "In a minute, honey, it's a tie score," he  answered.  Actually Winston wasn't very  interested in the traditional holiday football game between Detroit and Washington.  Ever since the government passed the Civility in Sports Statute of 2017, outlawing tackle football for its "unseemly violence" and the "bad  example it sets for the rest of the world,"  Winston was far less of a football fan than he used to be.  Two-hand touch wasn't nearly as  exciting..

 

Yet that wasn't the game that Winston was uninterested in.  It was more the thought of eating another TofuTurkey.  Even though it was the best type of VeggieMeat available after the government revised the American Anti-Obesity Act of 2018, adding fowl to the list of federally-forbidden foods, (which already included potatoes, cranberry sauce and mincemeat pie), it wasn't anything like real  turkey.  And ever since the government officially changed the name of "Thanksgiving Day" to "A National Day of Atonement" in 2020 to officially acknowledge the Pilgrims'  historically brutal treatment of Native Americans, the holiday had lost a lot of its luster.

 

 Eating in the dining room was also a bit daunting.  The unearthly gleam of government-mandated fluorescent light bulbs made the TofuTurkey look even weirder than it actually was, and the room was always cold.  Ever since Congress passed the Power Conservation Act of 2016, mandating all thermostats—which were monitored and controlled by the electric company—be kept at 68 degrees, every room on the north side of th  house was barely tolerable throughout the entire winter.

 

 Still, it was good getting together with family.  Or at least most of the family. Winston missed his mother, who passed on in October, when she had used up her legal  allotment of lifesaving medical treatment.  He  had had many heated conversations with the  Regional Health Consortium, spawned when the  private insurance market finally went bankrupt,  and everyone was forced into the government health care program.  And though he demanded she be kept on her treatment, it was a futile effort.  "The RHC's resources are  limited," explained the government bureaucrat  Winston spoke with on the phone. "Your mother  received all the benefits to which she was  entitled.  I'm sorry for your loss."

 

 Ed couldn't make it either.  He had forgotten to  plug in his electric car last night, the only kind available after the Anti-fossil Fuel Bill of 2021 outlawed the use of the combustion engines—for everyone but government officials.  The fifty mile round trip was about ten miles too far, and Ed didn't want to spend a frosty night on the road somewhere between here and there.

 

Thankfully, Winston's brother, John, and his wife were flying in.  Winston made sure that the dining room chairs had extra cushions for the occasion.  No one complained more than John about the pain of sitting down so soon after the government-mandated cavity searches at airports, which severely aggravated his hemorrhoids. Ever since a terrorist successfully smuggled a cavity  bomb onto a jetliner, the TSA told Americans the  added "inconvenience" was an "absolute necessity" in order to stay "one step ahead of the terrorists." Winston's own body had grown accustomed to such probing ever since the government expanded their scope to just about  anywhere a crowd gathered, via Anti-Profiling Act of 2022.  That law made it a crime to single out any group or individual for "unequal  scrutiny," even when probable cause was  involved.  Thus, cavity searches at malls, train  stations, bus depots, etc., etc., had become   almost routine.  Almost.

 

The Supreme Court is reviewing the statute, but most Americans expect a Court composed of six progressives and three conservatives to leave the law intact.  "A living Constitution is extremely flexible," said the Court's eldest   member, Elena Kagan.  "Europe has had laws  like this one for years.  We should learn from  their example," she added.

 

Winston's thoughts turned to his own children.  He got along fairly well with his 12-year-old daughter, Brittany, mostly because she ignored him.  Winston had long ago surrendered to the idea that she could text  anyone at any time, even during Atonement  Dinner.  Their only real confrontation had  occurred when he limited her to 50,000 texts a  month, explaining that was all he could afford. She whined for a week, but got over it.

 

 His 16-year-old son, Jason, was another matter altogether..  Perhaps it was the constant  bombarding he got in public school that global warming, the bird flu, terrorism or any of a  number of other calamities were "just around the corner," but Jason had developed a kind of   nihilistic attitude that ranged between   simmering surliness and outright hostility.  It didn't help that Jason had reported his father to the police for smoking a cigarette in the house, an act made criminal by the Smoking Control Statute of 2018, which outlawed smoking anywhere within 500 feet of another human  being.  Winston paid the $5000 fine, which might have been considered excessive before the  American dollar became virtually worthless as a result of QE13.  The latest round of quantitative easing the federal government initiated was, once again, to "spur economic  growth."  This time they promised to push unemployment below its years-long rate of 18%,  but Winston was not particularly hopeful.

 

Yet the family had a lot for which to be thankful, Winston thought, before remembering it

was a Day of Atonement.  At least he had his memories.  He felt a twinge of sadness when he realized his children would never know what life was like in the Good Old Days, long before government promises to make life "fair foreveryone" realized their full potential.

 

Winston, like so many of his fellow Americans,  never realized how much things could change when they didn't happen all at once, but little by  little, so people could get used to them.

 

 He wondered what might have happened if the public had stood up while there was still time, maybe back around 2011 - 12, when all the real nonsense began.  "Maybe we wouldn't be where we are today if we'd just said 'enough is  enough' when we had the chance," he thought.

 

  Maybe so, Winston.  Maybe so.

 

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Re: OT: Anyone here fluent in French?

Keep in mind that you have a lot of freedom with the translation of
songs. Just listen to Schubert's 'Du bist die Ruh' and 10 people
singing produce 6 different translations and their mother tounge is
German. The same is with French, if you are outside of Paris then the
Academie France will never find you.

On 15 Jan., 13:56, Cold Water <coldwater...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you want to give it a shot Tommy?  I have been advised that the reason
> machine translations can't cope is because: "It's Quebecois French, not
> International French."
>
> Leo Ferre - La Mélancolie
>
> La mélancolie, c'est une rue barrée, c'est c'qu'on peut pas dire
> C'est dix ans d'purée dans un souvenir
> C'est ce qu'on voudrait sans devoir choisir
> La mélancolie, c'est un chat perdu qu'on croit retrouvé
> C'est un chien de plus dans le monde qu'on sait
> C'est un nom de rue où l'on va jamais
> La mélancolie, c'est se r'trouver seul place de l'Opéra
> Quand le flic t'engueule et qu'il ne sait pas
> Que tu le dégueules en rentrant chez toi
> C'est décontracté, ouvrir la télé
> Et r'garder distrait un Zitrone pressé
> T'parler du tiercé que tu n'a pas joué, la mélancolie
>
> La mélancolie, c'est voir un mendiant chez l'conseil fiscal
> C'est voir deux amants qui lisent le journal
> C'est voir sa maman chaque fois qu'on s'voit mal
> La mélancolie, c'est revoir Garbo dans la reine Christine
> C'est revoir Charlot à l'âge de Chaplin
>
> From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommy News
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 08:48
> To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Anyone here fluent in French?
>
> Je parle Francais.
>
> In French song, the pronunciation is quite different from the spoken word.
> For example, the word Chose (Thing) is pronounced shows but it is sung
> "show-zuh"
>
> On 1/14/11, Cold Water <coldwater...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Do you know anyone, with an artistic disposition,  who's fluent in both
> > French and English?
>
> > I'm working on producing English subs for a French film, and there's a
> > sequence that's driving me crazy. It's a portion of a French song from the
> > 60's... the writer was kind of legend poet figure of the time. The machine
> > translation services just can't cope at all with his level of language
> > usage.
>
> > If you can help please contact me at:
> > <mailto:jill.jilliancoll...@gmail.com> jill.jilliancoll...@gmail.com
>
> > CW
>
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RE: OT: Anyone here fluent in French?

LOL!  I will give you an honorable mention.

 

You may have noticed the “deep freeze” extends well past you and even to those I tend to agree with.  It is all part of my sunny disposition <g>.  Seriously Tommy, I know you are a sensitive lad but a thick skin is almost a requirement in the political world (and definitely if you want to survive in this group LOL).

 

Thanks again Sweetie.

 

CW

 

From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommy News
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 01:46
To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OT: Anyone here fluent in French?

 

Do I get a credit in the film titles?
I can use that on my SAG resume.

On 1/15/11, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are welcome.
> Now please stop being so "Cold" to me.
>
> -Tommy
>
> On 1/15/11, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tommy thank you soooooooo much.  I can now finally complete this
>> project!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Hugs,
>>
>> CW
>>
>>
>>
>> From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommy News
>> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:27
>> To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: OT: Anyone here fluent in French?
>>
>>
>>
>> I gave it a shot, and I did not find it difficult at all, but I hope
>> Keithie Keith will not call me a Socailist again simply because I
>> studied French. I chose French because it is a beautiful language and
>> an eloquent culture. J'aime mieux des pommes frites, mais pas des
>> "freedom fries"! Le truaduiser, c'est finis. Voila.
>>
>> Melancholy
>>
>> -by Leo Ferre
>>
>> Melancholy is a dead end street, that nothing it can say,
>>  It's ten years of mush in a memory
>>  this is what we want without having to choose
>>  Melancholy is a lost cat one believes one has found
>>  It's a big dog in the world we know
>>  It's the name of a street where you will never go
>>  Melancholy, it is only found in Opera Square
>>  When the cop yells orders and he does not know
>>  Whether you throw up (puke) on the way back home
>>  It's relaxing, turn on the television,
>> Look distracted with a Zitrone juice (a citrus drink brand)
>> Speak in the third person to one who does not play (respond),  melancholy
>>
>>  Melancholy is seeing a beggar in the tax bureau,
>>  It Is seeing two lovers who read the newspaper
>>  It Is to see one's mother every time one gets hurt
>>  Melancholy is watching (Greta) Garbo in Queen Christina again
>>  It's goodbye Charlie in the age of Chaplin
>>
>>
>>
>> Leo Ferre - La Mélancolie
>>
>>
>>
>> La mélancolie, c'est une rue barrée, c'est c'qu'on peut pas dire
>> C'est dix ans d'purée dans un souvenir
>> C'est ce qu'on voudrait sans devoir choisir
>> La mélancolie, c'est un chat perdu qu'on croit retrouvé
>> C'est un chien de plus dans le monde qu'on sait
>> C'est un nom de rue où l'on va jamais
>> La mélancolie, c'est se r'trouver seul place de l'Opéra
>> Quand le flic t'engueule et qu'il ne sait pas
>> Que tu le dégueules en rentrant chez toi
>> C'est décontracté, ouvrir la télé
>> Et r'garder distrait un Zitrone pressé
>> T'parler du tiercé que tu n'a pas joué, la mélancolie
>>
>> La mélancolie, c'est voir un mendiant chez l'conseil fiscal
>> C'est voir deux amants qui lisent le journal
>> C'est voir sa maman chaque fois qu'on s'voit mal
>> La mélancolie, c'est revoir Garbo dans la reine Christine
>> C'est revoir Charlot à l'âge de Chaplin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/15/11, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Do you want to give it a shot Tommy?  I have been advised that the
>>> reason
>>> machine translations can't cope is because: "It's Quebecois French, not
>>> International French."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Leo Ferre - La Mélancolie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> La mélancolie, c'est une rue barrée, c'est c'qu'on peut pas dire
>>> C'est dix ans d'purée dans un souvenir
>>> C'est ce qu'on voudrait sans devoir choisir
>>> La mélancolie, c'est un chat perdu qu'on croit retrouvé
>>> C'est un chien de plus dans le monde qu'on sait
>>> C'est un nom de rue où l'on va jamais
>>> La mélancolie, c'est se r'trouver seul place de l'Opéra
>>> Quand le flic t'engueule et qu'il ne sait pas
>>> Que tu le dégueules en rentrant chez toi
>>> C'est décontracté, ouvrir la télé
>>> Et r'garder distrait un Zitrone pressé
>>> T'parler du tiercé que tu n'a pas joué, la mélancolie
>>>
>>> La mélancolie, c'est voir un mendiant chez l'conseil fiscal
>>> C'est voir deux amants qui lisent le journal
>>> C'est voir sa maman chaque fois qu'on s'voit mal
>>> La mélancolie, c'est revoir Garbo dans la reine Christine
>>> C'est revoir Charlot à l'âge de Chaplin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommy News
>>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 08:48
>>> To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Anyone here fluent in French?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Je parle Francais.
>>>
>>> In French song, the pronunciation is quite different from the spoken
>>> word.
>>> For example, the word Chose (Thing) is pronounced shows but it is sung
>>> "show-zuh"
>>>
>>> On 1/14/11, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Do you know anyone, with an artistic disposition,  who's fluent in both
>>>> French and English?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm working on producing English subs for a French film, and there's a
>>>> sequence that's driving me crazy. It's a portion of a French song from
>> the
>>>> 60's... the writer was kind of legend poet figure of the time. The
>> machine
>>>> translation services just can't cope at all with his level of language
>>>> usage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you can help please contact me at:
>>>> <mailto:jill.jilliancollins@gmail.com> jill.jilliancollins@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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