Re: Urgent Message to New York State Voters: Don't Let Obstructionist Republicans Win Back The State Senate

Yep, that's the ticket Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews.   A homophobe racist who doesn't agree with you and your ilk's "redistribution of wealth"  plans.....

 

Hopefully, you might begin to fathom just how out of touch you really are with "Mainstream" America tomorrow evening.

 

 

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:

Wrong and false again.

Civil marriage is distinct and separate from religious marriage. As
long as the government codifies marriage, all people must be included
in those laws equally regardless of gender. Churches are then free to
bless those civil marriage contracts or not as they choose.

Civil rights matters should NEVER be placed on the ballot, for the
majority almost always votes AGAINST the minority.

Your homophobia and discrimination is showing again, Keithie.

On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dick was right on the money TommyTomTomForNews.....What you seek is "special
> rights" and additional privileges above what every other American has,
> because of who you want to hop in the sack with.
>
> As it stands now, you can marry anyone that you so choose, just as any other
> man, or woman can.
>
> If you want to redefine the definition of marriage, (which is an
> ecclesiastical function, and throughout history is defined as being between
> a man and a woman) then put it up for a vote.   Let's see how that goes for
> ya.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> False twisted pretzel logic. No dice, no points to Dick.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/10, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > And the support of the people of NY state is what?   Do you have numbers
>> > as to what support this has?
>> >
>> > Also remember that members of legislative bodies represent their
>> > constituents.    Suppose the constituents supported civil unions but not
>> > marriage, something which is common across the country.  If the civil
>> > union gave you the benefits of marriage, why would you give a damn.  And
>> > if the constituents supported civil unions but not marriage, then that
>> > is what their senators should vote.  Did you ask why the 8 Dems voted
>> > against?   If they had not voted against it would have passed 32-30.
>> > Blame them!
>> >
>> > On 11/01/2010 02:01 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> On December 2nd, 2009, by a vote of 38
>> >> Nays to 24 Yeas, The New York State Senate Voted Against Marriage
>> >> Equality.
>> >> Every single Republican and eight Democrats voted for discrimination.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11/1/10, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net>  wrote:
>> >>> What stand-alone bill did the Republicans vote for discrimination.
>> >>> If
>> >>> you are still harping on DADT, they should have noted against that
>> >>> debacle.   The garbage that was tacked onto that bill made it
>> imperative
>> >>> to see it did not get passed.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you want repeal of DADT passed, then put up a bill that repeals
>> >>> DADT.  Also make sure that you also change the UCMJ as well.   As it
>> >>> stands now if all you do is let the judge say DADT is bad, then it
>> >>> defaults to the older legislation in UCMJ which actually does not even
>> >>> include DADT but only dismissal.   Stop playing stupid games with the
>> >>> crap.   Pitiful!  Also remember who first passed and signed DADT.  And
>> >>> no, it was not the Republicans.   Thank your hero, Bubba, and his crew
>> >>> that were in charge.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/01/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >>>> Every single Republican voted for discrimination.
>> >>>> Every single one. No exceptions.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do NOT vote for a Republican obstructionist under ANY circumstances.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A Republican Mammoth:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com>   wrote:
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Re: Grim Dems await huge House losses :-)))))

Isn't it amazing how childish and hateful Brucie is.

On 11/1/10, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
> isn't it amazing how infantile his writing voice is
>
> can't you just see him behind mommy's apron
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Keith is a hateful lying deranged dismissive devisive deluded dopey
>> wingnut.
>>
>> Yes, he is.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Have you noticed that anyone who questions
>> > LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews' posts, they are immediately branded
>> as
>> > violent, bullies, "potty mouthed" and Anti-American? (All the while,
>> Lil'
>> > TommyTomTomForNews is slinging out the vilest of hatred and smear.....
>> >
>> > Boy, that Tommy and Joy(less) Bayhar....Two Moonbats who cannot quite
>> keep
>> > their hatred, fear and anger over their March to Communist Utopia being
>> > stymied, because Americans woke up! Kind of funny in a way, if it were
>> not
>> > so sad.
>> >
>> > Can you imagine how the likes of Joy, TommyTomTom, Whoopi, Michael
>> > Moore,
>> > and a host of other, very vocal, but still a small minority of Moonbats
>> will
>> > be on "Tuesday evening/Wednesday morning"?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> a violent mouth?
>> >>
>> >> someone bite off your little 2 incher Tomy?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Bruce is a little bully girl with a vile violent potty mouth.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/1/10, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Tommy come out from behind Michelle's fat spreading ass
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If anyone here was violent you would have been beaten up for fun and
>> >>> dead
>> >>> > long ago
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Travis is a violent bully.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 11/1/10, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> > I can think of 533 PoS's that I would like to help join the
>> >>> unemployment
>> >>> >> > line. I have a 2X4 handy too.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Cold Water <
>> coldwater000@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> *Grim Dems await huge House losses*
>> >>> >> >> By: Alex Isenstadt
>> >>> >> >> October 31, 2010 04:53 PM EDT
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> The last TV ads have been cut. The final polls have been
>> conducted.
>> >>> The
>> >>> >> >> end-of-campaign expenditures are being made.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Now, for Democratic consultants and campaign officials who have
>> >>> plotted
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> strategized for months to preserve the embattled House majority,
>> >>> >> >> there's
>> >>> >> >> nothing left to do but sit and wait for the expected horrors of
>> >>> >> >> Election
>> >>> >> >> Day
>> >>> >> >> to unfold.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> There is nearly uniform consensus among Democratic campaign
>> >>> >> professionals
>> >>> >> >> that the House is gone — the only question, it seems, is how
>> >>> >> >> many
>> >>> seats
>> >>> >> >> they
>> >>> >> >> will lose.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> While few will say so on the record for fear of alienating party
>> >>> >> officials
>> >>> >> >> or depressing turnout, every one of nearly a dozen Democratic
>> House
>> >>> >> >> consultants and political strategists surveyed expect a GOP
>> >>> >> >> majority
>> >>> to
>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >> >> elected Tuesday — the consensus was that Democrats would lose
>> >>> somewhere
>> >>> >> >> between 50 and 60 seats.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> A senior party consultant who was on the low end with his
>> >>> predictions
>> >>> >> said
>> >>> >> >> the party would lose between 40 and 50 seats. On the high end,
>> one
>> >>> >> >> Democratic consultant said losses could number around 70 seats.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> All spoke to the grimness of the mood.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "It sucks," said Dave Beattie, a Florida-based Democratic
>> pollster
>> >>> who
>> >>> >> is
>> >>> >> >> working on a slate of competitive House races and who
>> acknowledges
>> >>> that
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> lower congressional chamber is lost. "I'm resigned to the fact
>> that
>> >>> it
>> >>> >> >> sucks."
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> While there was optimistic talk within party circles early this
>> >>> month
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> >> the electoral environment was improving for the party, the
>> >>> operatives
>> >>> >> said
>> >>> >> >> those conversations don't take place anymore.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "If some Democratic consultant told you they are feeling better,
>> >>> they
>> >>> >> must
>> >>> >> >> have dropped some heavy drugs," said a senior pollster who is
>> >>> working
>> >>> >> for
>> >>> >> >> candidates in competitive races. "It's hard."
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee this week
>> launched
>> >>> >> >> something of a last-ditch offensive to save some of its
>> incumbents,
>> >>> >> >> purchasing airtime to defend endangered members like Iowa Rep.
>> Dave
>> >>> >> >> Loebsack, Illinois Rep. Bill Foster and New Jersey Rep. John
>> Adler
>> >>> >> >> —
>> >>> >> >> all
>> >>> >> >> of
>> >>> >> >> whom are highly vulnerable but whom party officials believe
>> >>> >> >> could
>> >>> >> >> ultimately
>> >>> >> >> prevail.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> The committee also sought to shore up incumbents who until
>> recently
>> >>> >> >> were
>> >>> >> >> not thought to be in electoral peril: Arizona Rep. Raul
>> >>> >> >> Grijalva,
>> >>> Iowa
>> >>> >> >> Rep.
>> >>> >> >> Bruce Braley and North Carolina Rep. Mike McIntyre.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Still, among those in the Democratic consulting class, there's a
>> >>> gloomy
>> >>> >> >> acknowledgment that many of the incumbents the DCCC has spent
>> >>> millions
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> >> dollars to protect won't be coming back to Congress.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "Everybody that is tied will lose, and everyone that is ahead by
>> a
>> >>> few
>> >>> >> >> points will lose because of the GOP wave," said one party media
>> >>> >> consultant
>> >>> >> >> who is involved in a wide array of House races. "There are going
>> to
>> >>> be
>> >>> >> >> some
>> >>> >> >> surprises."
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Some strategists have resigned themselves to an election night
>> that
>> >>> >> >> will
>> >>> >> >> bring an early end to the promising careers of Democrats they
>> >>> >> >> shepherded
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> victories in 2006 and 2008.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "In a wave election, part of the problem is that you feel
>> >>> >> >> powerless.
>> >>> >> >> Everything I feel I know how to do, that I'm trained to do, I
>> can't
>> >>> do.
>> >>> >> >> And
>> >>> >> >> that feeling is pervasive," said the pollster. "There's a sense
>> >>> >> >> that
>> >>> >> >> there's
>> >>> >> >> nothing you can do about it. When you know your friends are on
>> the
>> >>> >> >> chopping
>> >>> >> >> block, it's hard."
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "There's nothing worse than talking to an incumbent member of
>> >>> Congress
>> >>> >> >> who's been cut off by the DCCC and who has no money," said
>> another
>> >>> >> >> Democratic consultant who has worked on crafting some of the
>> >>> >> >> party's
>> >>> TV
>> >>> >> >> ads
>> >>> >> >> this cycle. "It's like talking to a dead man walking."
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> But Nov. 2 will also bring a welcome end to a rough final
>> >>> >> >> stretch
>> >>> that
>> >>> >> >> left
>> >>> >> >> many party strategists frustrated. Some talked about having to
>> >>> switch
>> >>> >> >> campaign strategies multiple times in hapless attempts to raise
>> >>> >> >> rock-bottom
>> >>> >> >> poll numbers.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "It's a 24-hour labor," said John Anzalone, an Alabama-based
>> >>> pollster
>> >>> >> who
>> >>> >> >> works closely with the DCCC. "In 2006 and 2008, everything was
>> >>> >> >> going
>> >>> >> your
>> >>> >> >> way. This is brutal."
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> There is ongoing debate within Democratic circles about when,
>> >>> exactly,
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> >> party lost its handle on the electoral environment. Some
>> >>> >> >> consultants
>> >>> >> >> say
>> >>> >> >> they realized they lost the House in early October, when it
>> finally
>> >>> >> became
>> >>> >> >> apparent that incumbents couldn't move their poll numbers.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> But others say the electoral map hardened this spring, after the
>> >>> House
>> >>> >> >> passed a health care bill that remains deeply unpopular among
>> >>> voters.
>> >>> >> >> Democratic campaign officials say it is no accident that there
>> are
>> >>> few
>> >>> >> >> Democrats in moderate-to-conservative districts who have
>> >>> >> >> promoted
>> >>> their
>> >>> >> >> support for the health care measure on the campaign trail, and
>> most
>> >>> >> don't
>> >>> >> >> even acknowledge it.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "To a lot of folks, it was a symbol of government," said
>> >>> >> >> Beattie,
>> >>> the
>> >>> >> >> Florida-based pollster. "It's not about the content for most
>> >>> voters."
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Already, the finger-pointing is beginning. With outside
>> >>> >> >> conservative
>> >>> >> >> groups
>> >>> >> >> pouring millions of dollars into races across the country, some
>> >>> >> operatives
>> >>> >> >> singled out liberal interest groups for not engaging in the
>> >>> election.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "If there's one person to blame, it's the liberal groups who
>> >>> >> >> said
>> >>> they
>> >>> >> >> would get involved early but they didn't," said the media
>> >>> consultant.
>> >>> >> >> "I
>> >>> >> >> think they've been totally unhelpful."
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> But, most of the consultants said, much of the post-election
>> >>> scrutiny
>> >>> >> >> would
>> >>> >> >> surround President Barack Obama and a White House political
>> >>> operation
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> >> over the past two years struggled to sell an ambitious agenda
>> that
>> >>> >> turned
>> >>> >> >> out to be radioactive to a wide swath of the electorate.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "Here's the part of this that bothers me the most: This is not
>> >>> >> >> an
>> >>> >> >> embracing
>> >>> >> >> of Republicans. It's a rejection of Democrats," said Andrew
>> Myers,
>> >>> >> >> a
>> >>> >> >> veteran
>> >>> >> >> Democratic pollster who worked on several House campaigns.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=03A44CBF-0C07-448A-99CB09FC8163E166
>> >>> >> >>
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Re: Urgent Message to New York State Voters: Don't Let Obstructionist Republicans Win Back The State Senate

Wrong and false again.

Civil marriage is distinct and separate from religious marriage. As
long as the government codifies marriage, all people must be included
in those laws equally regardless of gender. Churches are then free to
bless those civil marriage contracts or not as they choose.

Civil rights matters should NEVER be placed on the ballot, for the
majority almost always votes AGAINST the minority.

Your homophobia and discrimination is showing again, Keithie.

On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dick was right on the money TommyTomTomForNews.....What you seek is "special
> rights" and additional privileges above what every other American has,
> because of who you want to hop in the sack with.
>
> As it stands now, you can marry anyone that you so choose, just as any other
> man, or woman can.
>
> If you want to redefine the definition of marriage, (which is an
> ecclesiastical function, and throughout history is defined as being between
> a man and a woman) then put it up for a vote. Let's see how that goes for
> ya.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> False twisted pretzel logic. No dice, no points to Dick.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/10, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > And the support of the people of NY state is what? Do you have numbers
>> > as to what support this has?
>> >
>> > Also remember that members of legislative bodies represent their
>> > constituents. Suppose the constituents supported civil unions but not
>> > marriage, something which is common across the country. If the civil
>> > union gave you the benefits of marriage, why would you give a damn. And
>> > if the constituents supported civil unions but not marriage, then that
>> > is what their senators should vote. Did you ask why the 8 Dems voted
>> > against? If they had not voted against it would have passed 32-30.
>> > Blame them!
>> >
>> > On 11/01/2010 02:01 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> On December 2nd, 2009, by a vote of 38
>> >> Nays to 24 Yeas, The New York State Senate Voted Against Marriage
>> >> Equality.
>> >> Every single Republican and eight Democrats voted for discrimination.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11/1/10, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>> What stand-alone bill did the Republicans vote for discrimination.
>> >>> If
>> >>> you are still harping on DADT, they should have noted against that
>> >>> debacle. The garbage that was tacked onto that bill made it
>> imperative
>> >>> to see it did not get passed.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you want repeal of DADT passed, then put up a bill that repeals
>> >>> DADT. Also make sure that you also change the UCMJ as well. As it
>> >>> stands now if all you do is let the judge say DADT is bad, then it
>> >>> defaults to the older legislation in UCMJ which actually does not even
>> >>> include DADT but only dismissal. Stop playing stupid games with the
>> >>> crap. Pitiful! Also remember who first passed and signed DADT. And
>> >>> no, it was not the Republicans. Thank your hero, Bubba, and his crew
>> >>> that were in charge.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/01/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >>>> Every single Republican voted for discrimination.
>> >>>> Every single one. No exceptions.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do NOT vote for a Republican obstructionist under ANY circumstances.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A Republican Mammoth:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyJOJsGRs8oWxDz90hxbo_0O93C3pM6WkO7lza_NSVemaCcidISmkxKYRF6eXT-MUotqEVFIT0vR786EjLlzgIMF4WTRPW4v4rdcc9sfQ0Rjerfl1UscURXTjCxUGvdGJLS3k3n_Xub2-y/s400/GOP+mammoth+large.jpg
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Urgent Message to New York State Voters: Don't Let Obstructionist Republicans Win Back The State Senate

Wrong and false again.

On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dick was right on the money TommyTomTomForNews.....What you seek is "special
> rights" and additional privileges above what every other American has,
> because of who you want to hop in the sack with.
>
> As it stands now, you can marry anyone that you so choose, just as any other
> man, or woman can.
>
> If you want to redefine the definition of marriage, (which is an
> ecclesiastical function, and throughout history is defined as being between
> a man and a woman) then put it up for a vote. Let's see how that goes for
> ya.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> False twisted pretzel logic. No dice, no points to Dick.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/10, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > And the support of the people of NY state is what? Do you have numbers
>> > as to what support this has?
>> >
>> > Also remember that members of legislative bodies represent their
>> > constituents. Suppose the constituents supported civil unions but not
>> > marriage, something which is common across the country. If the civil
>> > union gave you the benefits of marriage, why would you give a damn. And
>> > if the constituents supported civil unions but not marriage, then that
>> > is what their senators should vote. Did you ask why the 8 Dems voted
>> > against? If they had not voted against it would have passed 32-30.
>> > Blame them!
>> >
>> > On 11/01/2010 02:01 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> On December 2nd, 2009, by a vote of 38
>> >> Nays to 24 Yeas, The New York State Senate Voted Against Marriage
>> >> Equality.
>> >> Every single Republican and eight Democrats voted for discrimination.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11/1/10, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>> What stand-alone bill did the Republicans vote for discrimination.
>> >>> If
>> >>> you are still harping on DADT, they should have noted against that
>> >>> debacle. The garbage that was tacked onto that bill made it
>> imperative
>> >>> to see it did not get passed.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you want repeal of DADT passed, then put up a bill that repeals
>> >>> DADT. Also make sure that you also change the UCMJ as well. As it
>> >>> stands now if all you do is let the judge say DADT is bad, then it
>> >>> defaults to the older legislation in UCMJ which actually does not even
>> >>> include DADT but only dismissal. Stop playing stupid games with the
>> >>> crap. Pitiful! Also remember who first passed and signed DADT. And
>> >>> no, it was not the Republicans. Thank your hero, Bubba, and his crew
>> >>> that were in charge.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/01/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >>>> Every single Republican voted for discrimination.
>> >>>> Every single one. No exceptions.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do NOT vote for a Republican obstructionist under ANY circumstances.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A Republican Mammoth:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyJOJsGRs8oWxDz90hxbo_0O93C3pM6WkO7lza_NSVemaCcidISmkxKYRF6eXT-MUotqEVFIT0vR786EjLlzgIMF4WTRPW4v4rdcc9sfQ0Rjerfl1UscURXTjCxUGvdGJLS3k3n_Xub2-y/s400/GOP+mammoth+large.jpg
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Grim Dems await huge House losses :-)))))

isn't it amazing how infantile his writing voice is

can't you just see him behind mommy's apron

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:

Keith is a hateful lying deranged dismissive devisive deluded dopey wingnut.

Yes, he is.

On 11/1/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you noticed that anyone who questions
> LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews' posts, they are immediately branded as
> violent, bullies, "potty mouthed"  and Anti-American?  (All the while, Lil'
> TommyTomTomForNews is slinging out the vilest of hatred and smear.....
>
> Boy, that Tommy and Joy(less) Bayhar....Two Moonbats who cannot quite keep
> their hatred, fear and anger over their March to Communist Utopia being
> stymied, because Americans woke up!  Kind of funny in a way, if it were not
> so sad.
>
> Can you imagine how the likes of Joy, TommyTomTom, Whoopi, Michael Moore,
> and a host of other, very vocal, but still a small minority of Moonbats will
> be on "Tuesday evening/Wednesday morning"?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> a violent mouth?
>>
>> someone bite off your little 2 incher Tomy?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce is a little bully girl with a vile violent potty mouth.
>>>
>>> On 11/1/10, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Tommy come out from behind Michelle's fat spreading ass
>>> >
>>> > If anyone here was violent you would have been beaten up for fun and
>>> dead
>>> > long ago
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Travis is a violent bully.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/1/10, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > I can think of 533 PoS's that I would like to help join the
>>> unemployment
>>> >> > line.  I have a 2X4 handy too.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>    *Grim Dems await huge House losses*
>>> >> >> By: Alex Isenstadt
>>> >> >> October 31, 2010 04:53 PM EDT
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The last TV ads have been cut. The final polls have been conducted.
>>> The
>>> >> >> end-of-campaign expenditures are being made.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Now, for Democratic consultants and campaign officials who have
>>> plotted
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> strategized for months to preserve the embattled House majority,
>>> >> >> there's
>>> >> >> nothing left to do but sit and wait for the expected horrors of
>>> >> >> Election
>>> >> >> Day
>>> >> >> to unfold.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> There is nearly uniform consensus among Democratic campaign
>>> >> professionals
>>> >> >> that the House is gone — the only question, it seems, is how many
>>> seats
>>> >> >> they
>>> >> >> will lose.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> While few will say so on the record for fear of alienating party
>>> >> officials
>>> >> >> or depressing turnout, every one of nearly a dozen Democratic House
>>> >> >> consultants and political strategists surveyed expect a GOP
>>> >> >> majority
>>> to
>>> >> be
>>> >> >> elected Tuesday — the consensus was that Democrats would lose
>>> somewhere
>>> >> >> between 50 and 60 seats.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> A senior party consultant who was on the low end with his
>>> predictions
>>> >> said
>>> >> >> the party would lose between 40 and 50 seats. On the high end, one
>>> >> >> Democratic consultant said losses could number around 70 seats.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> All spoke to the grimness of the mood.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "It sucks," said Dave Beattie, a Florida-based Democratic pollster
>>> who
>>> >> is
>>> >> >> working on a slate of competitive House races and who acknowledges
>>> that
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> lower congressional chamber is lost. "I'm resigned to the fact that
>>> it
>>> >> >> sucks."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> While there was optimistic talk within party circles early this
>>> month
>>> >> that
>>> >> >> the electoral environment was improving for the party, the
>>> operatives
>>> >> said
>>> >> >> those conversations don't take place anymore.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "If some Democratic consultant told you they are feeling better,
>>> they
>>> >> must
>>> >> >> have dropped some heavy drugs," said a senior pollster who is
>>> working
>>> >> for
>>> >> >> candidates in competitive races. "It's hard."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee this week launched
>>> >> >> something of a last-ditch offensive to save some of its incumbents,
>>> >> >> purchasing airtime to defend endangered members like Iowa Rep. Dave
>>> >> >> Loebsack, Illinois Rep. Bill Foster and New Jersey Rep. John Adler
>>> >> >> —
>>> >> >> all
>>> >> >> of
>>> >> >> whom are highly vulnerable but whom party officials believe could
>>> >> >> ultimately
>>> >> >> prevail.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The committee also sought to shore up incumbents who until recently
>>> >> >> were
>>> >> >> not thought to be in electoral peril: Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva,
>>> Iowa
>>> >> >> Rep.
>>> >> >> Bruce Braley and North Carolina Rep. Mike McIntyre.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Still, among those in the Democratic consulting class, there's a
>>> gloomy
>>> >> >> acknowledgment that many of the incumbents the DCCC has spent
>>> millions
>>> >> of
>>> >> >> dollars to protect won't be coming back to Congress.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Everybody that is tied will lose, and everyone that is ahead by a
>>> few
>>> >> >> points will lose because of the GOP wave," said one party media
>>> >> consultant
>>> >> >> who is involved in a wide array of House races. "There are going to
>>> be
>>> >> >> some
>>> >> >> surprises."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Some strategists have resigned themselves to an election night that
>>> >> >> will
>>> >> >> bring an early end to the promising careers of Democrats they
>>> >> >> shepherded
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> victories in 2006 and 2008.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "In a wave election, part of the problem is that you feel
>>> >> >> powerless.
>>> >> >> Everything I feel I know how to do, that I'm trained to do, I can't
>>> do.
>>> >> >> And
>>> >> >> that feeling is pervasive," said the pollster. "There's a sense
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >> there's
>>> >> >> nothing you can do about it. When you know your friends are on the
>>> >> >> chopping
>>> >> >> block, it's hard."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "There's nothing worse than talking to an incumbent member of
>>> Congress
>>> >> >> who's been cut off by the DCCC and who has no money," said another
>>> >> >> Democratic consultant who has worked on crafting some of the
>>> >> >> party's
>>> TV
>>> >> >> ads
>>> >> >> this cycle. "It's like talking to a dead man walking."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> But Nov. 2 will also bring a welcome end to a rough final stretch
>>> that
>>> >> >> left
>>> >> >> many party strategists frustrated. Some talked about having to
>>> switch
>>> >> >> campaign strategies multiple times in hapless attempts to raise
>>> >> >> rock-bottom
>>> >> >> poll numbers.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "It's a 24-hour labor," said John Anzalone, an Alabama-based
>>> pollster
>>> >> who
>>> >> >> works closely with the DCCC. "In 2006 and 2008, everything was
>>> >> >> going
>>> >> your
>>> >> >> way. This is brutal."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> There is ongoing debate within Democratic circles about when,
>>> exactly,
>>> >> the
>>> >> >> party lost its handle on the electoral environment. Some
>>> >> >> consultants
>>> >> >> say
>>> >> >> they realized they lost the House in early October, when it finally
>>> >> became
>>> >> >> apparent that incumbents couldn't move their poll numbers.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> But others say the electoral map hardened this spring, after the
>>> House
>>> >> >> passed a health care bill that remains deeply unpopular among
>>> voters.
>>> >> >> Democratic campaign officials say it is no accident that there are
>>> few
>>> >> >> Democrats in moderate-to-conservative districts who have promoted
>>> their
>>> >> >> support for the health care measure on the campaign trail, and most
>>> >> don't
>>> >> >> even acknowledge it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "To a lot of folks, it was a symbol of government," said Beattie,
>>> the
>>> >> >> Florida-based pollster. "It's not about the content for most
>>> voters."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Already, the finger-pointing is beginning. With outside
>>> >> >> conservative
>>> >> >> groups
>>> >> >> pouring millions of dollars into races across the country, some
>>> >> operatives
>>> >> >> singled out liberal interest groups for not engaging in the
>>> election.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "If there's one person to blame, it's the liberal groups who said
>>> they
>>> >> >> would get involved early but they didn't," said the media
>>> consultant.
>>> >> >> "I
>>> >> >> think they've been totally unhelpful."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> But, most of the consultants said, much of the post-election
>>> scrutiny
>>> >> >> would
>>> >> >> surround President Barack Obama and a White House political
>>> operation
>>> >> that
>>> >> >> over the past two years struggled to sell an ambitious agenda that
>>> >> turned
>>> >> >> out to be radioactive to a wide swath of the electorate.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Here's the part of this that bothers me the most: This is not an
>>> >> >> embracing
>>> >> >> of Republicans. It's a rejection of Democrats," said Andrew Myers,
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> veteran
>>> >> >> Democratic pollster who worked on several House campaigns.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=03A44CBF-0C07-448A-99CB09FC8163E166
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