Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Government Intrusion: County Sues Farmer, Cites Too Many Crops

County Sues Farmer, Cites Too Many Crops
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The Hutaree militia and the rising risk of far-right violence

The Hutaree militia and the rising risk of far-right violence

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The arrests of members of a Michigan-based "Christian" militia group should convince doubters that there is good reason to worry about right-wing, anti-government extremism -- and potential violence -- in the Age of Obama.

I put the word Christian in quotes because anyone who plots to assassinate law enforcement officers, as a federal indictment alleges members of the Hutaree militia did, is no follower of Christ. According to federal prosecutors, the Hutaree -- the word's not in my dictionary, but its Web site claims it means "Christian warrior" -- are convinced that their enemies include "state and local law enforcement, who are deemed 'foot soldiers' of the federal government, federal law enforcement agencies and employees, participants in the 'New World Order,' and anyone who does not share in the Hutaree's beliefs."

According to the indictment, the group had been plotting for two years to assassinate federal, state or local police officers. "Possible such acts which were discussed," the indictment says, "included killing a member of law enforcement after a traffic stop, killing a member of law enforcement and his or her family at home, ambushing a member of law enforcement in rural communities, luring a member of law enforcement with a false 911 emergency call and then killing him or her, and killing a member of law enforcement and then attacking the funeral procession motorcade" with homemade bombs.

Nine members of the Hutaree were named in the indictment. Eight were arrested during weekend FBI raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana; one suspect remains at large. The group's Web site shows members in camouflage outfits traipsing through woods in "training" exercises. They could be out for an afternoon of paintball, except for the loony rhetoric about "sword and flame" and the page, labeled "Gear," that links to several gun dealers. Along with numerous weapons offenses, the Hutaree are charged with sedition.

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The episode highlights the obvious: For decades now, the most serious threat of domestic terrorism has come from the growing ranks of paranoid, anti-government hate groups that draw their inspiration, vocabulary and anger from the far right.

It is disingenuous for mainstream purveyors of incendiary far-right rhetoric to dismiss groups such as the Hutaree by saying that there are "crazies on both sides." This simply is not true.

There was a time when the far left was a spawning ground for political violence. The first big story I covered was the San Francisco trial of heiress Patricia Hearst, who had been kidnapped and eventually co-opted by the Symbionese Liberation Army -- a far-left group whose philosophy was as apocalyptic and incoherent as that of the Hutaree. There are aging radicals in Cuba today who got to Havana by hijacking airplanes in the 1970s. Left-wing radicals caused mayhem and took innocent lives.

But for the most part, far-left violence in this country has gone the way of the leisure suit and the AMC Gremlin. An anti-globalization movement, including a few window-smashing anarchists, was gaining traction at one point, but it quickly diminished after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. An environmental group and an animal-rights group have been linked with incidents of arson. Beyond those particulars, it is hard to identify any kind of leftist threat.

By contrast, there has been explosive growth among far-right, militia-type groups that identify themselves as white supremacists, "constitutionalists," tax protesters and religious soldiers determined to kill people to uphold "Christian" values. Most of the groups that posed a real danger, as the Hutaree allegedly did, have been infiltrated and dismantled by authorities before they could do any damage. But we should never forget that the worst act of domestic terrorism ever committed in this country was authored by a member of the government-hating right wing: Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City.

It is dishonest for right-wing commentators to insist on an equivalence that does not exist. The danger of political violence in this country comes overwhelmingly from one direction -- the right, not the left. The vitriolic, anti-government hate speech that is spewed on talk radio every day -- and, quite regularly, at Tea Party rallies -- is calibrated not to inform but to incite.

Demagogues scream at people that their government is illegitimate, that their country has been "taken away," that their elected officials are "traitors" and that their freedom is at risk. They have a right to free speech, which I will always defend. But they shouldn't be surprised if some listeners take them literally.

More:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/29/AR2010032901891.html

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Government Intrusion: California Attempts To Quiet Motorcycles

Bikers Make Noise On Attempt To Quiet Motorcycles
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/ap/bikers-make-noise-on-attempt-to-quiet-motorcycles-102756504.html

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Re: Remembering Father Mychal Judge, The Saint of 9-11

No Tommy, you either (A)  Don't know the facts, and refuse to educate yourself and learn what really happened, (the "Net/World Wide Web" has numerous reports by a number of independent investigative reporters, including  ABC, CBS, NPR the NYT and WaPo have all reported the truth); and/or (B)  You are a part and parcel of the gay militant movement who is not concerned with the truth, but instead have an agenda. 
 
Which one is it??
 


 
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
That is quite false, and is highly offensive, as is most everytjhing you attempt to say with your twisted pretzel logic.
 
The two thugs who murdered Matthew Shepard were attempting to rob him, thinking that he was a gay easy target.
You slander his memory and the facts. Shame on you!

 
On 9/13/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
I really cannot add a lot to this thread, after the most excellent responses by Dick Mustang and especially Jonathan! 
 
I would only point out, that one of the main rallying points of the LGBT Movement, is Matthew Shepard, who was purportedly murdered in a vile anti-gay hate crime.   Turns out, nothing of the sort happened, Matthew Shepard was involved in a drug deal gone bad.  Instead of the LGBT Community coming forward and admitting that this was no hate crime, the militant Gay Community has continued to perpetrate the lie, even trying to enact further hate crime laws that restrict Americans' liberty.   This, in and of itself, is what gives the LGBT Community a black eye, and lends them no credence whatsoever. 
 
 
 
 
 
Finally, as Jonathan, (and Mustang & Dick) point out,  to continue to throw out the, "homophobic"card, which is a typical far left extremist tactic, much like playing the "race" card and the class warfare" card,  is much like the boy who cried wolf.   This will eventually come back to bite the far left elitists' in the ass, and it will hurt those who are being disadvantaged by racism, bigotry, and yes, even homophobia, because of folks like Tom, and many in the militant Gay community. 

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:57 PM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
But making a big point of their possibly being gay and harping on it does nothing to keep their memory alive; in fact it will make sure the memory will die.   As Mustang said below and as I tried to get through your thick head above the man would have been honored if he were straight, bisexual , asexual, homosexual or any other kind of sexual.  His sexual inclinations had absolutely nothing to do with the great things he did that day and other days.  It was his sheer goodness that made the difference.   Trying to paint it as being a function of his being gay diminishes him totally.

I sometimes think people like you parade around with your gayness being your sole attribute and reason for being.   I really pity that.   Humans are made up of many attributes and their sexual attribute is merely one of them - and not the major one by any means.   Trying to borrow the goodness of others merely because they are gay and acting as if that also extends to you because you are is a lost cause.  

On 09/12/2010 01:59 PM, Tommy News wrote:
Yes, Father Judge pitched in and helped, as did many others. Many gave their lives doing so. Knowing more about them helps to keep their memory alive and teaches tolerance.
 
Read this:
 


 
On 9/12/10, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
The man gave his life ministering to the firemen and others at the disaster.   Who cares whether he was gay or not.   His sexual inclination does not matter to the story one little bit.   I do get a wee bit tired of those who look for sexual inclinations no matter what.  Celebrate the man for the greatness he had and the rest does not matter at all.   The disaster affected us all, gay and straight and I happen to be gay.   When you in the middle of a situation like that you don't ask about sex ual inclination; you either pitch in and help or you run away.   He pitched in and helped.   End of story.


On 09/12/2010 10:11 AM, Tommy News wrote:
Dick-
 
Exactly what "Gay Nonsense" are you referring to?
 
Give us a break, Dick!

 
On 9/11/10, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
    And whether the Father was gay or not means what with regard to what he was doing on 9/11/2001.    He was there fulfilling his mission and I am sure he would not have cared whether the men and women he helped were gay or not.   And we should not either when it comes to this day.  If there is a time to forget all the gay nonsense it is a day like today.   Give it a break!!


On 09/11/2010 09:04 AM, Tommy News wrote:

Father Mychal Judge, the New York City Fire Department chaplain, stands at the shore before a service where candles were lit for the victims of TWA Flight 800, July 17, 2000, at Smith Point Park in Shirley, N.Y.
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Father Mychal Judge, the New York City Fire Department chaplain, stands at the shore before a service where candles were lit for the victims of TWA Flight 800, July 17, 2000, at Smith Point Park in Shirley, N.Y.
 



A man carrying an American flag joined other mourners at Ground Zero on the 8th anniversary of 9-11-01.

Remembering The Saint of 9/11: Father Mychal Judge 


*Father Mychal Judge*

 


On 9/11/01, rescue workers remove the body of Father Judge, a parish priest
from one of New York's fire halls. Father Judge was administering last rites
to a firefighter who was killed by one of the many bodies that fell to the
ground after people leapt from the tower to their deaths, when he too was
struck and killed.

   Father Mychal Judge   There is a word that upsets Cardinal Edward Egan
more than "terrorist" and that is the word "gay."

After the funeral service for Father Mychal Judge, the fire chaplain who
perished ministering to a dying fireman at the World Trade Center, I tried
to ask Egan, "Given Father Mychal's many contributions to the gay community
and all you've just heard about how loving and loved he was, does it make
you want to rethink your condemnation of homosexuality?" When Egan heard the
word "gay," he didn't wait for the question. "Oh, COME ON!," he thundered as
he abruptly turned away. Purple with rage, he literally ran to his car.

Egan's response explains Mychal Judge's decision not to be a more outspoken
gay activist-- something that he debated with me, host of a gay news show on
TV that he said he enjoyed, and others over the years. Cardinals John
O'Connor or Egan would certainly have put an end to his ability to function
as a priest in this Archdiocese, a role that allowed him to roam the city in
his brown Franciscan habit giving solace and strength to countless New
Yorkers. It might also have meant the loss of his chaplaincy serving his
beloved fire fighters, even though he enjoyed the support of the Fire
Commissioner, Mayor, and virtually all the rank and file.

At his wake and funeral, Mychal Judge, 68, was mourned and celebrated by his
two sisters, brother Franciscans, elderly nuns who were his grade school
teachers, powerful friends, diverse parishioners, the homeless and others he
served, and scores of fire fighters, some covered with dust from the
catastrophe downtown. But evidence of Judge's involvement with the gay
community-- and his wary relationship with the church hierarchy-- was hiding
in plain sight.

At the wake, Mayor Giuliani himself said, "Father Mychal is now up in heaven
with Cardinal O'Connor-- and O'Connor is letting him say mass," referring to
the rivalry these two priests had, especially over funerals of fallen fire
fighters. It was a grim day in a devastating week, but the mourners roared
with knowing laughter.

Eulogizing him at the funeral, Father Michael Duffy broke up the crowd and
humanized his friend by noting that when Judge got the word to dash downtown
to the stricken Trade Center, "he did take time to comb and spray his hair!"
Public Advocate Mark Green spoke of how he served people of "every
orientation."

The night before, his 23 years in Alcoholics Anonymous were invoked, but not
that Judge went mostly to gay AA meetings. His gay brothers from the program
were all over the church.

Present in the pews were Judge's close friends, gay couple Brendan Fay and
Tom Moulton. Judge had openly supported (and surreptitiously funded) Fay's
Queens St. Patrick's Parade that welcomed gay groups, the only Catholic
priest to do so. (The next one, on March 3, is dedicated to Judge's memory.)
And when the Emerald Society of the Fire Department honored Father Mychal,
he had Brendan and Tom as his guests and the couple danced together at the
banquet. He was always building bridges, especially between the conservative
and progressive worlds he was equally at home in.

Hillary Clinton inelegantly spoke of the "AIDS victims" Judge helped. She
did not note how that ministry came about. When Cardinal O'Connor expelled
Dignity, the gay Catholic organization, from St. Francis Xavier Church in
the mid-1980s, Judge provided a home for the group's AIDS ministry, led by
the Rev. Bernard Lynch, an outspoken gay priest. Judge later made that
outreach St. Francis of Assisi's own. Several gay men came at the funeral
told me how Judge had buried their partners and gotten them through their
grief.

In 1988, Lynch was falsely accused of molesting a teen-age student at a
Bronx school he once served. Lynch said that without being asked, Judge
"flew to Ireland to meet with my provincial superior to tell him that the
charges were politically motivated because I had stood up against the
Cardinal in 1986 on the gay rights bill." This, Lynch said, convinced Father
Con Murphy, his superior, to hire high-powered lawyer Michael Kennedy to
defend Lynch. Judge made a side trip to a small Irish town to reassure
Lynch's father about his son. Lynch returned to the Bronx and the flimsy
case evaporated in court, with Judge Burton Roberts angrily declaring the
priest not just "not guilty," but innocent of all charges.

The Archdiocese denies any involvement in bringing the charges, but they
never answered letters from Kennedy seeking their files on Lynch nor pleas
from religious leaders asking the Cardinal to help him. While O'Connor did
speak out for his friend the Rev. Bruce Ritter when he was charged
(accurately) with abusing boys at Covenant House, he was silent while Lynch
twisted in the wind. Now the Archdiocese can know that their church's hero,
Mychal Judge, helped undermine the case meant to destroy Lynch.

Judge kept a high profile, from comforting the kin of those who died on
Flight 800 and meeting with Presidents to his poignant martyrdom on Bloody
Tuesday. But in other ways, he was like the underground priests in Ireland,
homeland of his parents, who defied the 18th century anti-Catholic Penal
Laws, saying mass on the sly and always on the run. Working on gay issues,
however, he was hiding from his own Cardinal Archbishop, who proclaimed him
a saint at his funeral and refused to hear that Judge was the kind of person
his church has condemned as "intrinsically disordered."

For Mychal (nee Emmet) Judge, an Irish American kid from Brooklyn, gayness
was one of his many gifts, but it was the one that gave him his most
personal experience of being an outsider, blessing him with the empathy that
gave him such a tremendous ability to connect to and heal so many broken
people.
More:
http://www.whitecranejournal.com/wc_Father_Mychal_Judge.htm

 


 

*Father  Mychal F. Judge, The Saint of 9/11*

Father Mychal F. Judge, OFM was a busy Franciscan priest who dedicated his
life to serving God's people.  He is known for his work with the homeless,
recovering addicts, AIDS patients, and his work as chaplain to the New York
City Fire Department.

On September 11, 2001, Father Mychal rushed from the friary at Saint Francis
of Assisi Church to the scene of the World Trade Center attacks.

After administering last rites to a firefighter, Father Mychal was hit by
debris and killed.  He became the first officially recorded fatality
following the attack.

During his life, Father Mychal spent much of his time ministering to the
homeless on the Breadline at St. Francis of Assisi Church in New York City.
This is one of the many places where he found God - in the hurting, the
broken, the suffering, and the poor.

His dedication to homeless men, women and children has become a calling to
us that manifests itself as Mychal's Message.

*Father Mychal F. Judge, OFM Biography
*Reprinted with permission of the Holy Name Province.

Father Mychal F. Judge, OFM, chaplain to the New York City Fire Department,
died Tuesday, September 11, 2001 in a hail of falling debris near the World
Trade Center.  He became the first officially recorded fatality following
the attack.  Father Mychal was 68.

Born in Brooklyn, NY on May 11, 1933, Robert Emmett Judge was the son of two
Irish immigrants from County Leitrim.  As a young boy, he watched his father
die after a long illness.  To help his mother and two sisters make ends
meet, he shined shoes in Manhattan, ran errands and did odd jobs, before
being called to his Franciscan vocation at age 16.  He then entered St.
Joseph's Seraphic Seminary, Callicoon, NY, and graduated in 1954 after
completing the first two years of college.

He was received into the Franciscan Order on August 12, 1954 and the
following year, on August 13, professed his first vows of poverty, chastity
and obedience as stated in the Rule of Life of St. Francis of Assisi.  He
professed final vows on August 20, 1958.

He was ordained to the priesthood on February 25, 1961 at the Franciscan
Monastery – Mt. St. Sepulchre, Washington, DC.  He spent a year of pastoral
formation at St. Anthony Shrine, Boston, Mass., before his first assignment
1962-66 as an assistant at St. Joseph's Church, East Rutherford, NJ.  He
also served as an assistant at Sacred Heart Church, Rochelle Park, NJ from
1967-69.  In 1969 he came to St. Francis of Assisi Church, New York City, as
local moderator for the Secular Franciscan fraternities.

In 1970, he returned to St. Joseph's Church, East Rutherford, NJ, as
coordinator of the parochial team ministry of Franciscan friars.  After six
years, he was appointed in 1976 as assistant to the president at Siena
College in Loudonville, NY, serving until 1979.  He then became pastor of
St. Joseph's Church in West Milford, NJ.  In 1985 he undertook a one-year
theological sabbatical at the Franciscan house of studies in Canterbury,
England.

Upon returning in the summer of 1986, he was appointed an associate pastor
of St. Francis of Assisi Church, New York City.  At the friary there,
finding many "Michaels" on the staff, he decided to change the spelling of
his name to Mychal.  Only a few days after arriving at St. Francis, he
responded to a call to celebrate Mass in the hospital room of New York
police officer Steven McDonald, who had been critically wounded during an
investigation of a youth in Central Park.  Father Mychal and the McDonald
family soon became devoted friends.  Among their good-will travels, Father
Mychal accompanied Detective McDonald on visits to Northern Ireland in 1998,
1999 and 2000 to encourage reconciliation.

In 1992, upon the death of Fr. Julian Deeken, OFM, a Franciscan friar who
had served as one of the Catholic chaplains for the New York Fire
Department, Father Mychal accepted an invitation to serve temporarily in his
place.  Fr. Mychal was named chaplain officially in 1994 to serve the
boroughs of Manhattan, the Bronx, and Staten Island.

When TWA Flight 800 exploded shortly after takeoff from New York in July
1996 and fell into the Atlantic off Long Island, Father Mychal helped
counsel the families and friends of the victims every day for three weeks
and worked to arrange a permanent memorial at the site.  He had since
returned every summer to offer a memorial service and comfort the families.

Over the years, Father Mychal won the hearts of the firefighters and their
families by his charismatic Irish personality and warm Franciscan outreach
to them in all their needs – baptisms, weddings, funerals, hospital visits –
wherever and whenever he was sought.  He was also active in a diverse
ministry to various groups throughout the Metropolitan area.

More than 2,800 people attended the Mass of Christian Burial for Father
Mychal on Saturday, September 15 at St. Francis of Assisi Church in
Manhattan.  Father Mychal was buried at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery in Totowa,
NJ.  He is survived by two sisters, Erin McTernan and Dympna Jessich.
More:
http://www.mychalsmessage.org/aboutfrm/aboutfrm.htm

Children's Book:
*He Said Yes*
The Story of Father Mychal Judge
*written by Kelly Ann Lynch
illustrated by M. Scott Oatman*

A true story about the remarkable life and untimely death of Father Mychal
Judge, *He Said Yes *tells how an ordinary boy from Brooklyn became an
extraordinary Franciscan priest and the beloved New York City Fire
Department chaplain who gave his life for his friends on September 11, 2001.
More:
http://www.mychalsmessage.org/aboutmm/share/book.htm

The story of a gay priest killed on 9/11
Tuesday, September 11, 2007

By LARRY McSHANE
ASSOCIATED PRESS

Kelly Ann Lynch, like so many others in Father Mychal Judge's vast
congregation without walls, was devastated by word of the fire chaplain's
death in the shadows of the World Trade Center.

"Those first few weeks, it was hard to see anything good," said the
Pennsylvania mother of four. "It just felt so dark and so sad and so empty."

<http://ads.northjersey.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.northjersey...>

Time passed, until the darkness gave way to a bright idea. Lynch -- whose
father once served as an altar boy for Judge -- became consumed with turning
the priest's life into a children's book, keeping his message of love alive
for future generations.

"He Said Yes: The Story of Father Mychal Judge," a biography timed to arrive
with the sixth anniversary of 9/11, is an illustrated 32-page walk in the
Franciscan priest's sandals. M. Scott Oatman did the artwork.

"He left behind a legacy for all of us," Lynch said recently over breakfast
at a Secaucus hotel, a short hop from the East Rutherford parish where her
family first met Judge. "I took the most important parts of his story and
tried to simplify it. His story was meant to be shared."

The biography starts with Judge's birth in Brooklyn, where he had a job
shining shoes to help his widowed mother make ends meet. It follows him into
the seminary, through his ordination, to parishes in Massachusetts, New
Jersey (East Rutherford, Rochelle Park and West Milford) and finally
Manhattan.

First official victim

Lynch, in a simple, straightforward style, details how Judge picked up
congregants for his far-flung flock at every stop: suburban families and the
homeless; AIDS patients and alcoholics; firefighters and a paralyzed police
officer; the loved ones of those killed aboard TWA Flight 800.

The tale ends on Sept. 11, 2001, when Judge became the first official victim
of the terrorist attack that killed 2,750 people in the Twin Towers. His
dying soon gave life to Lynch's remembrance.

Those touched by the peripatetic priest during his 68 years greeted word of
the Paulist Press publication with warm reviews.

"It sounds sweet -- a lovely idea," said actor and author Malachy McCourt.
"Anything that perpetuates the goodness of this man is fine with me."

Brendan Fay, a gay activist and Judge friend, recalled how easily "Father
Mike" bonded with children.

"He wrote notes and letters to children at their baptism," Fay recalled. "A
few who saved them now treasure them with the affection of relics. ... Kids
who never knew Father Judge can now read his story."

Longtime family friendship

Lynch's ties with Judge predate her birth. He counseled her family in good
times and in crisis -- the sudden death of her grandfather, the death of a
2-month-old sibling, her own daughter's lifesaving liver transplant.

"He made you feel that you were the one special person in his life," said
the 39-year-old Lynch. "What we've come to realize, six years later, is that
he did that for everybody. He was a constant presence."

Besides her book, Lynch runs the non-profit Mychal's Message, which provides
aid to the dispossessed. Proceeds from "He Said Yes" will also benefit the
homeless.

Lynch said getting the book in print was a long process. Plans fell through
with one publisher, and talks with an agent moved slowly. She was on the
verge of self-publishing, just to get the book out, when one of Father
Mike's fellow Franciscans steered her to Paulist Press.

Everything clicked. And, as Lynch hoped, the book, which came out Sept. 3,
was released in time for the anniversary of the attacks.

Judge, possessor of a dry Irish wit, would have enjoyed the book's title,
Fay said. The Franciscan father's instinctive "yes" made him indispensable
to many, but it was also wearing him out -- much like his phone answering
machines, which routinely broke down from overuse every six months.

"It was his gift, and it connected him to thousands," Fay said of the late
yes-man. "But it also wore him out. The title would make Mychal laugh."

On the Web:

paulistpress.com

mychalsmessage.org
More:
http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXky...



 
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Re: Why aren’t the Republicans listening to Americans?

Tommy,
 
As I promised two years ago,  I openly challenge you to find anything whatsoever that is inaccurate in this attachment that I am sending you.  As an inducement, Again, as I did two years ago, I will pay of yours, or anyone's mortgage who can find ANYTHING inaccurate in my research.
 
I am a man of my word, read it, and point out how the failed Bush Administration policies caused the current financial meltdown debacle.
 
 
 
The ball is in your court:
 
KeithInTampa
 
P.S.:   As I have posted here before, below is the definition of Socialism:
 

 "Date: 1837. From Latin socialis for "friend" or "companion" or "associate". Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; usually there is no private property; in Marxist theory this is also considered just a transitional stage between capitalism and communism and it is distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done."

 

The above definition is by Mr. John Spargo, from his work titled: "Socialism, A Summary And Interpretation Of Socialist Principles" (McMillan & Co. 1913).  Below is the Wiki definition, which is quite similar.

 

"Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.  A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done"

 

 The truth is, that the Democratic Party now openly advocates socialism, which by its very definition, is some middle ground and transition to communism.   Although the Democrats used to try and evade the moniker, and distance themselves from being classified as socialists, they do so no more.  Congresswoman Maxine Waters, (D. Cal.)  parroted the Venezuelan socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez, calling for the nationalization of the oil companies:

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ

 

 

 

Current Obama Administration Chief of Staff and former House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) said just recently:

 

"So if there's any seriousness about what some of our Republican colleagues are saying here in the House and elsewhere about improving the number of refineries, then maybe they'd be willing to have these refineries owned publicly, owned by the people of the United States, so that the people of the United States can determine how much of the product is refined and put out on the market.

"To me, that sounds like a very good idea."

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.html

 

 

Congressman  Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) on June 18, 2008 in a Press Conference of the Democratic Leadership said:

 

 

"Should the people of the United States own refineries?  Maybe so.  Frankly, I think that's a good idea.  Then we could control the amount of refined product much more capably that gets out on the market...

 

 http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.html

 

 

Democrats openly call for redistribution of wealth in our Nation, they call for socialized medicine, socialized energy, and in general, the Democratic Party openly advocates the federal government's  involvement in each and every facet of our lives.   Period.  What part of this  can you Tommy, with a straight face, argue is NOT socialism? 

 

By example, here in Senator Obama's own words, he openly advocates a redistribution of wealth:

 

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html

 

 

Of course, Vice President Biden believes that a socialist, "redistribution of wealth" plan, is the "patriotic thing to do":

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCqgNWRjmAc

 

 

 

There is no question that President Obama is calling for the very tenets of socialism, which is the forerunner of communism, and a economic and political system that has failed miserably throughout recorded history.   President Obama's,  and many Democrats' belief,  is that "Socialism, Communism, Marxism, Trotskyism, and Stalinism were all wonderful political, social and economic systems, we just haven't had the right folks try and implement them yet!"  

 

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 You can sit and deny yours and President Obama's Marxist/socialist propagandist beliefs and try and sugar coat them all you want to Tom, the fact remains that the Obama Administration is exactly that, Marxist.   His failed Keynesian economic policies won't work,  and I encourage you to read the post I submitted earlier from President Obama's classmate,  Mr. Wayne Allyn Root, in the thread captioned:  "OBAMA'S COLLEGE CLASSMATE SPEAKS OUT", and found here:
 
 


On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
No, you must live in a cave in an alcohol induced fog.
Regugitating tea bagger GOP false far reicht wing rhetoric will not change that.

 
On 9/13/10, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
Tommy, you must truly live in a cave. "The failed Bush administration polices" were only slightly less socialistic/Marxist as those being foisted upon us under the Obama administration. Regurgitating leftist rhetoric will not change that. A lie is a lie no matter how many people believe it. The truth is the truth even if no one believes it.


On 9/13/2010 10:34 AM, Tommy News wrote:
President Obama and Tommy are not "Socialists/'Marxists!!" as you falsely claim.
The GOP advocates a return to the failed Bush Administration policies, which led to the current mess.
The greedy self serving Republicans are to blame.

Wake up, Keith.



 
On 9/13/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
Geez, this is so laughable.   David Di Martino, another Moonbat living under a rock!!  
 
The Republicans clearly are speaking for the American Public, whereas the Socialist-Elitists in power have not, forcing this socialized medicine down the  Americans' proverbial throats.   By example, everyone should see a major jump in their health insurance premiums at the end of this month/1st of October, thanks in total to the Obama Administration! 
 
Thank God we only have a couple few more months of this, before we make this Marxist Administration "Lame Duck"!   Let us pray that we can limit the damage he and his Administration does in the next two years!  And let us all be thankful that Americans are waking up to the evils of the Obama Administration, and the naivity of Sugarshack, Tommy, and a host of other misguided Socialists/'Marxists!!
 

 
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 3:41 PM, VT Sean Lewis <thevirtualtruth@gmail.com> wrote:
Why aren't the Republicans listening to Americans?

By David Di Martino - 09/10/10  02:24 PM ET

One of the most repeated criticisms you hear from Republican leaders
and  
opponents of the historic Affordable Care Act that will expand health
insurance  coverage to 30 million Americans and end unfair insurance
company
practices that  deny coverage to those in need is that Congress passed
it despite
the "objection  of the American people." The "objection" cited is a
reference to public opinion  polling that showed mixed levels of
support for the
healthcare reform  bill.

But when Republicans in Congress are faced with objections from the
 public
about their proposals to go relive the Bush era of financial
stewardship,  
they ignore the public's wishes.

The Hill's Jay Heflin _reports results of a new Gallup  poll_
(http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/117995-new-
poll-...
ort-ending-tax-cuts-for-the-wealthy)  show overwhelming opposition to
stopping the imminent Bush tax  increases for the wealthiest
Americans. According
to the reporting, Gallup's  poll shows that "59 percent [of those
polled]
favor ending tax cuts for the  rich." The poll indicated that 56
percent of
independents and even 44 percent of  Republicans polled would prefer
an end
to tax breaks for the wealthy. Those  looming tax increases are part
of a
set of tax increases put in place by  President Bush and the
Republican
Congress in 2001 that will raise taxes on  nearly every American
taxpayer in 2011.

Instead of supporting the tax  cuts for lower- and middle-class
Americans
and small businesses proposed by  President Obama and the Democratic
Congress
to prevent the Bush tax increases,  Republicans are set to block those
tax
cuts for American families unless the  president backs the highly
unpopular
tax breaks for millionaires. The polling  says Americans want to end
the tax
breaks for the rich. Why are Republicans in  Congress not listening to
the
will of the American people?

Just like  their opposition to the toughest Wall Street reform bill
since
the Depression  and their refusal to pass the small-business bill that
would
immediately create  jobs and inject much-needed capital to the growth
engines of our economy,  Republicans are playing politics and opposing
the will of
the public when it  comes to tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans.
They
believe that if the  economy continues to recover slowly, they'll win
more
seats in November.  

The president and the Democrats in Congress are listening to the
people  
and putting the country, not politics, first. They favor halting the
Bush tax  
increases for lower- and middle-class Americans and small businesses
and  
allowing the Bush tax increases on the wealthy. Gallup says the
Democrats'  
proposal "is the specific option the public prefers most."

Maybe it's  time for Republicans in Washington to start listening to
the
American public and  start doing what's right for this economy.
_http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-a-budget/118095-on-
gall...
l-and-tax-increases-for-the-wealthy_
(http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-a-budget/118095-on-
gall...)

".....if by a liberal they mean someone who looks ahead and not
 behind,
someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who
 cares
about the welfare of the people- their health, their housing, their
 schools,
their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties.. if that is
what  they
mean by a "liberal" then I am proud to be a liberal. ": John F.
 Kennedy

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