Re: Paying taxes doesn’t allow Atheists, nor any group , to dictate to others.

Dear "Keith" and plainol...: During the 1950s, the words "under God"
were added to our Pledge of Allegiance. Of course that is
unconstitutional as a national pledge of a secular government. A ploy
of the religious right is to shame those in Congress into voting to be
"good" God fearers, as opposed to "bad" believers in the Founding
Fathers' wishes. Can't hard-headed Americans, like Mike Huckabee, see
that allowing religion to control a single thing done by government,
is little better than allowing Sharia law to control governments?
There hasn't been, and won't ever be, any proof given that "God" ever
endorsed the formation of this country. Having "In God we trust."
printed on money doesn't justify scrapping our more ideal governmental
objectives in favor of having a single thing be controlled from any
pulpit. Instead of wondering about the origin of your rights, realize
that they are there because such has the consensus of the People.
There is little higher power than that! — J. A. Armistead —

On Sep 13, 4:25 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Again,  I ask you, where do they come from?
>
> You've yet to answer.
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:54 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Unalienable rights come from the moral consensus of
> > the People.
> > ---
> > religious people
>
> > On Sep 12, 6:02 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > On Sep 10, 1:26 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:>
> > All unalienable rights are from God.
>
> > > No, plainol...:  Unalienable rights come from the moral consensus of
> > > the People.  But such sounds more immutable, if the language refers to
> > > 'God', or "Mother Nature', or more correctly, to all of the natural
> > > laws of the Universe.  — J. A. A. —> ---
>
> > > > speculation noted
>
> > > > On Sep 10, 11:18 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hello John,
>
> > > > > Although it was difficult to get through that long winded
> > disortation,
> > > > > (reminds me of someone who graduated from Clemson!)  and I agree
> > that the
> > > > > Obama Administration has by executive order installed
> > unconstitutional,
> > > > > communistic mandates upon "We, The People";   I am at a loss as to
> > how you
> > > > > believe that our two party system is unconstitutional.
>
> > > > > Far from it.
>
> > > > > There is nothing in the Constitution,  (or maybe you can point out
> > the
> > > > > Article and paragraph for us?)  that restricts the association of
> > like
> > > > > minded politically thinking individuals from forming associations or
> > groups
> > > > > to further their political cause.
>
> > > > > I also take exception to your notion that the "weak govern the
> > strong".
> > > > > Examples please.  With regard to bias within the law.....Yes.  It's
> > true,
> > > > > and has been since the beginning of recorded history.  The United
> > States is
> > > > > no exception, and I can cite numerous instances within our 235 year
> > > > > history,  beginning with the "Shea's Rebellion"  of bias contained
> > within
> > > > > the law.   To some degree,  it is these "biases"  that you refer to,
> > that
> > > > > shape and form our "culture" and our "morals".
>
> > > > > All unalienable rights are from God,  not government and they cannot
> > be
> > > > > stripped by government,  unless one "volunteers"  to waive his God
> > given
> > > > > unalienable right.
>
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM, NoEinstein <
> > noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
> > > > > > Yes, Studio, but "the two major political parties" are 100%
> > > > > > UNCONSTITUTIONAL under our present Constitution!  The USA isn't a
> > > > > > democracy, but is supposed to be (but never has been) a
> > Representative
> > > > > > Republic.  The Founding Fathers were totally committed to the
> > > > > > principle that the PEOPLE control government.  Nowhere in the
> > > > > > Constitution is it sanctioned to allow political parties to
> > substitute
> > > > > > biased group power for the "close to a Democracy" power of the
> > voters
> > > > > > on election day.  Yes, there were Whigs and Tories in the 18th
> > > > > > century.  But those were mechanisms for government control far
> > > > > > different from a Representative Republic!  Note: That treasonous
> > > > > > BASTARD in the White House, Barack H. Obama, still supposes that
> > the
> > > > > > USA is "our great Democracy", while he acts as our
> > communist-socialist
> > > > > > dictator.  As numbers of you have pointed out a year or two ago,
> > > > > > Democracies—if that's the only stipulated 'control' of
> > government—will
> > > > > > allow the weak to control the strong.  And that isn't just if it is
> > > > > > like: two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for supper.  Having
> > > > > > controls in the Constitution that mandate justice and fairness will
> > > > > > allow the voters to decide controversial issues WITHIN the bounds
> > of
> > > > > > justice and fairness.  No biased group gets to define justice and
> > > > > > fairness so as to allow them to exploit others for their own
> > selfish
> > > > > > gain.  The best route to saving the USA, as well as our entire
> > > > > > socioeconomic system, is to strip all biased groups of power over
> > the
> > > > > > course of government.  Once that happens, there won't be any more
> > > > > > pressure to have governments become all things for all people,
> > which
> > > > > > as we should know by now ( but Obama doesn't), doesn't work!  —
> > John
> > > > > > A. Armistead —
>
> > > > > > On Sep 6, 11:48 am, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sep 5, 5:39 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Dear Studio:
> > > > > > > >  Since both of those are issues of
> > > > > > > > high controversy, the American People should be allowed to
> > decide once
> > > > > > > > and for all in direct referenda.
>
> > > > > > > I'm in TOTAL agreement with that!
> > > > > > > However, Republitards will remind you we live in a Republic, not
> > a
> > > > > > > Democracy.
> > > > > > > And neither of the 2 major parties actually want people to
> > decide by
> > > > > > > referendum.
>
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