Re: The New York Times' Lie and Truths about Iran

yes. we owe them nothing.



On Sep 17, 3:40 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this your same position on Germany?  On England?  How about Canada?
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> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:37 PM, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com
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> > wrote:
> > the goal here is to portray the American government as insistent on
> > attacking Iran,  and that whole "Blood For Oil"  theory that both love
> > so
> > much......Needless to say, that Richman's and Raimondo's very
> > existence
> > depend upon petroelum products,
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> > not the issue.
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> > an Iranian threat toward israel is not an American concern.
> > O has made it clear to israel that we will not fight their war with
> > the muzzies.
> > Romney, otoh, has told them that we will. He's going to look pretty
> > stupid when only mormons and zionists back him up.
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> > On Sep 17, 5:43 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Once again, the likes of Sheldon Richman and Justin Raimondo (through
> > > Antiwar.com, which is where Richman chooses to obtain his "facts"  from)
> > > try to pervert the truth.  I assume,  (although it's hard to understand
> > > especially Raimondo's goal in anything....In Raimondo's case, he's just a
> > > goofy crackpot who like to hear himself talk and see himself in print)
> > that
> > > the goal here is to portray the American government as insistent on
> > > attacking Iran,  and that whole "Blood For Oil"  theory that both love so
> > > much......Needless to say, that Richman's and Raimondo's very existence
> > > depend upon petroelum products,  from the food that they inhale to the
> > > nasty drawers on their backsides.
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> > > Here are but just a few of the examples of:
> > > "Iranian leader[s] threaten[ing] Israel with annihilation"
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> > > (Ahmadinejad:  "Death to Israel")
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> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo
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> > >  Washington Post:  The facts revolving around Ahmadinejad's purported
> > > statement of "Wipe Israel Off the Map"....Note the discussion of the
> > > Iranian billboards throughout the Nation, stating that Israel should be
> > > "wiped off the map")
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> > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-ahmadinejad...
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> > > Germany's Der Spiegal News:   Summer of 2007,  Ahmadinejad:  *"the ocean
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> > > nations of the region will get angry and will cut the root of the Zionist
> > > regime from its stem."*
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> > >  There are many, many more examples....All one has to do is
> > > Google,  " Ahmadinejad +  Israel"
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> > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:38 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
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> > > > Friday, September 14, 2012
> > > > *The New York Times' Lie and Truths about Iran
> > > > *Posted by Sheldon Richman
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> > > > Today's *New York Times *report "Obama Rebuffs Netanyahu on Setting
> > > > Limits on Iran's Nuclear Program"<
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/world/middleeast/obama-rebuffs-neta...>contains
> > one outright lie and a couple of true statements that don't get
> > > > nearly enough attention in the media.
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> > > > The lie: Israeli officials, however, say this guarantee [that the Obama
> > > > administration will prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon] may
> > not be
> > > > enough for Israel, which Iranian leaders have repeatedly threatened
> > with
> > > > annihilation.
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> > > > No Iranian leader has threatened Israel with annihilation.<
> >http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025>
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> > > > The truths that require more attention (emphasis added): Basing a
> > > > military judgment on Iran's stockpile of medium-enriched uranium could
> > be
> > > > tricky, however, because while the overall amount of this material has
> > > > increased, the amount that can be readily used to fuel a bomb has
> > declined<
> >http://original.antiwar.com/porter/2012/09/01/iaea-report-shows-iran-...>since
> > Iran converted some of it into plates to be used in a research
> > > > reactor in Tehran. . . .
> > > > Administration officials contend that the United States will still be
> > able
> > > > to detect, and prevent, Iran from passing that point. Nor does the
> > > > administration have evidence that Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali
> > > > Khamenei, has even made a decision to build a bomb.
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> > > >http://sheldonfreeassociation.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-new-york-times.
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