Friday, July 20, 2012

Re: Zimmerman shooting not a hate crime

Good Morning (Central European Time)  John,
 
First, let me say that I don't understand counsel's logic in allowing his client to appear on FOX News.  I have not seen the whole interview with Sean Hannnity,  but I did see clips of it beginning with the "Friends Of The Friends Of the Friends Of FOX News"  which I think starts about 05:00 ET.  and throughout portions of the day, on the internet,  which is the only way I have to access FOX News and American television.
 
No question in my mind,  George Zimmerman hurt himself in his on the air testimony,  (at least based on the few small clips that I saw)  but the proverbial "Jury Is Still Out"  and I note that some of the talking heads didn't agree with me. 
 
I'm winging this stat here,  (I don't have it in front of me)  but since the inception of DNA testing,  it is something like less than 500 individuals'  convictions have been overturned, nation wide,  and the predominance of those individuals whose conviction and sentence has been overturned were white.  Have there been some tragedies?  No question.  Have there been some racially motivated convictions?  You bet. 
 
 For you to ignore what is going on in this Nation, and give Black thugs like Trayvon Martin and the thousands of Black youths who are now terrorizing White Americans in these purported "Flash Mobs" a pass because of their race, and because of the relatively few tragedies in our jusice system is again, naive and ignorant.  Your theory of what happened that night is flawed,  for a number of reasons,  but bottom line, it is pure fantasy, (and fallacy). 
 
As a side note,  i have gone and retreived the photographs in question,  and nothing regarding the pictures support any of your claims or theories.  I also note that at the time of the pictures,  (other than the one shown from a video by ABC News) all of these photos were taken after Zimmerman received "on site"  paramedic medical treatment. 
 
None of us know exactly what happened that night, but I would bet a dollar and a bier that it didn't go down as you fantasize about, and there is  much better chance that it went down something like what Zimmerman said it did. 


 
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:49 AM, NoEinstein <noeinstein@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Dear Tico: Last night in an exclusive hour-long interview on the Sean
Hannity FOX show, Zimmerman said that his wife had witnessed thieves
running with stuff stolen from a neighboring apartment.  Apparently,
because of her fear, Zimmerman appointed himself "neighborhood
watcher" (or whatever).  He had no formal auspices, nor training to be
doing anything.  If his car had had those magnetic signs on each side
saying "Neighborhood Watch" or anything to that effect, Martin would
not have felt threatened.  If a thug-looking guy in an unmarked car
starts following me, I would assume he has bad intentions, too.
Zimmerman's FATAL mistake was in not realizing he MUST reveal "Who
goes there?"  The police are required by law to wear a uniform with a
badge, and if they aren't in uniform, to always SHOW a badge before
having any interaction with a suspect or other.  Zimmerman violated
that rule because he was a hatred-filled, lying bigot.  At least 30%
of what Zimmerman explained last night was out-and-out lies simply
trying to cover his ass.

Two prominent lies were: "I didn't realize I had a gun until I was
putting my cell phone back in my pocket."  And... "The reason I wasn't
very emotional when the police came was because I didn't even know if
I had shot Martin.  He had said 'You got me.'  And I assumed he was
acknowledging that I had beaten him to the gun in my pants.  I know
the gun went off, but I didn't know if it hit Martin.  It was 45
minutes later at the police station that I learned Martin had
died."  [Similar Zimmerman crap omitted.]  Note: The coroner's sketch,
shown on FOX, indicated Martin was shot at "point-blank" range through
the heart.  No person, so shot, can say "You got me." or anything
else.  A body on top of you, that has just been shot through the heart
becomes a "dead weight."  Where there had been screams for help, now,
there was only silence.

Zimmerman was asked, "How long was it after the shot before the police
arrived."  Answer (lie): "Fifteen to thirty seconds."  In all
likelihood, there was several minutes for Zimmerman to run to his
apartment, get some of his wife's jewelry and to stuff that into
Martin's bag.  After doing so, he was feeling the bruise on the back
of his head.  Realizing that his injury there was minor, he used his
fingernails to make the short lacerations frequently shown in the
news.  I would bet those cuts were being made within 15 to 30 seconds
of the police arriving, because the vertical-flowing blood had not
started coagulating.

If you, a supposed lawyer, don't recognize Zimmerman's errors and
cover-ups, you are either very naive, very cold, or both.  — J. A. A.


On Jul 18, 2:56 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All of your supposed "evidence" are mere suspicions. Zimmerman had every
> right to follow the man, Martin. He was the appointed block watch officer..
> witnesses have said the fight took place before the gunshot...
> No_Limit_Nigga was dead... that was his chosen name on social media...
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
> > Dear Tico:  If someone in an unmarked vehicle follows, then, gets out
> > and chases you; and after loosing the foot race he drives and stops
> > his vehicle at the end of the long walk you are on, you could do one
> > of two things: turn around like someone who had done some "wrong" or
> > keep walking and determine WHO the lunatic is.  Being a proud youth,
> > Martin did the latter.  Zimmerman, the psycho lunatic, already had his
> > ego wounded when he couldn't catch Martin in the foot race.  And he
> > had his ego wounded a second time when his presence at the end of that
> > walk wasn't affecting Martin.  In short, Zimmerman didn't have the
> > POWER he was so yearning to have by playing being the neighborhood
> > flat-foot.  Zimmerman could reason that Martin would be curious about
> > all these goings-on.  If Zimmerman had rationally explained that he
> > was on of the apartment residents "just" checking for any suspicious
> > visitors, Martin never would have attacked.  Zimmerman, by omitting
> > explaining who he was, or what his (non-existent) auspices were, was
> > PREMEDITATING murder.  In Zimmerman's warped mind, no "black person",
> > young or old, is going to question why Zimmerman was doing anything.
> > Death by stoning would be too good for him!  — J. A. Armistead —
>
> > On Jul 17, 12:23 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Einstein... I guess Zimmerman is afraid of his Grandfather... a proud
> > > BLACK man... Zimmerman thinks his Grandfather is a thief and all the
> > > other negatives that you have implied...
>
> > > The race card does NOT fly when you need it to, does it?
>
> > > Poor Martin was shot after he elevated a tense VERBAL confrontation
> > > into a physical one..Why would any reasonable person do this??.... if
> > > I were 5'7" and weighed in at a chubby 190 and was attacked physically
> > > by a 6'1" physically fit individual I would fear for my well being
> > > just as Zimmerman did... thus a legal shooting.
>
> > > On Jul 17, 10:03 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> OK,
> > Bruce:  What you are saying is that Zimmerman PROFILED anyone
> > > > wearing a hoodie as being a crook who could be shot on sight with
> > > > impunity.  If 80% of teenage males are slender, then 80% of those,
> > > > regardless of their race, can be tried, convicted, and executed by the
> > > > shooter without any formal auspices being stated.  Committing unarmed
> > > > robbery isn't a capital crime.  But shooting someone to death when
> > > > one's life isn't in danger can be a capital crime.  To wit: Once there
> > > > was a case where a neighborhood was having a lot of break-ins.  A home-
> > > > owner rigged a shotgun to automatically shoot and kill anyone breaking
> > > > through his window.  That man is now serving life in prison.  Learn to
> > > > think, Bruce.  People who do so seldom get labeled as bigots.  — J. A.
> > > > Armistead —
>
> > > > On Jul 16, 6:57 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Someone had been breaking into houses s in the neighborhood,
> > including
> > > > > houses with women and children in them.
>
> > > > > The person doing it had been seen and he looked more like Trayon
> > than he
> > > > > did some frail white guy
>
> > > > > I have also heard trayvon n had jewelry on him at the time he was
> > shot in
> > > > > his backpackOn Monday, July 16, 2012, NoEinstein wrote:
> > > > > > Bruce:  If when Zimmerman was standing five feet from Martin, and
> > > > > > before any "defensive" blows were exchanged, Zimmerman had realized
> > > > > > that Martin was a frail white guy, he never would have PRESSED his
> > > > > > latent hatred for the blacks he had automatically assumed wear
> > > > > > hoodies.  Martin, sensing the hatred in Zimmerman's look and tone
> > > > > > probably asked two questions: "Why are you following me?"  And "By
> > > > > > what "authority" are you doing that?".  When (I'll bet) Zimmerman
> > > > > > PATTED the loaded gun in his pocket as being his authority, without
> > > > > > ever mentioning that he was just doing "routine" apartment
> > security,
> > > > > > Martin knew his life was being threatened by a LUNATIC.  He did the
> > > > > > only thing he could to defend himself—knock Zimmerman down and
> > punch
> > > > > > him.
>
> > > > > > All of the injuries to Zimmerman's head were short lacerations.
> >  If,
> > > > > > as Zimmerman purports, his head was pounded against the pavement,
> > at
> > > > > > least part of his head injuries would have been abrasions.
> > > > > > Lacerations could be caused by bits of broken glass.  But the
> > instant
> > > > > > the first laceration was made, his blood would have not only coated
> > > > > > the pavement, but would have been smeared on the back of his head.
> > > > > > The police photo I saw made soon after the police arrived showed
> > blood
> > > > > > trailing VERTICALLY from each of those short lacerations.  The only
> > > > > > way the blood would have flowed vertically would be if Zimmerman
> > was
> > > > > > STANDING and had self-inflicted ALL of those lacerations with
> > (likely)
> > > > > > just his fingernails.  Other than for that punch in the nose,
> > > > > > Zimmerman's life was never threatened.  The only justice in this
> > case
> > > > > > is to throw Zimmerman in jail and to throw away the key!!!!!  — J.
> > A.
> > > > > > Armistead —
>
> > > > > > On Jul 15, 10:51 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
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