Re: QUESTION: What More Do We Need To Do To Help Bullied LGBT Youth?

Clearly, they are encouraging youth to "come out"
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from their website:
It is important to remember that you shouldn't feel pressured or
scared to come out or stay in the closet. Everybody's story is
different, always listen to yourself. You know what is right for you.

many confused,
usually young individuals are identifying with this movement when they
should not be.
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opinion noted
is your concern about their soul or their ability to integrate/
assimilate/socialize?

On Apr 20, 9:55 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Morning PlainOl,
>
> Yesterday, in response to one of my posts,  you said:
>
> *" 'they',  (The LGBT Alliance)  don't encourage people to come out ...
> they encourage those who are gay to stand up for their rights... which is a
> good thing"*
>
> I went on the web for the first time this morning to kind of check out some
> of the "Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, Transgender Youth Alliance" pages on the
> web, and I beg to differ.  Here is a page from the LGBT Youth Alliance from
> Miami Florida.  Clearly, they are encouraging youth to "come out"  (I
> assume of the proverbial "closet")   and announce and defend their
> sexuality.   This, despite the suicides and hatred.
>
> http://www.glbtqalliance.com/
>
> http://www.glbtqalliance.com/?page_id=124
>
> Here's the Gay Straight Youth Alliance from California:
>
> http://gsanetwork.org/about-us
>
> Note the group here from Rochester tells the youths that they must be
> strong, and first confied in someone that they are close to, but
> apparently, come out they must:
>
> http://www.gayalliance.org/am-i.html
>
> Note how happy everyone looks in the pictures....
>
> These group, as well as certain television shows and other aspects that are
> a part of popular culture in our Nation, and in the New Millennium,  have
> made being homosexual something "cool";  something that is portrayed to our
> youth, that one should want or aspire to be or want.  In short, (and I
> cannot stress this enough,  these web sites, (and there are literally
> hundreds of them on the web,  from FaceBook to Flickr to "stand alone"  web
> sites)  make it look cool to be a homosexual.
>
> This of course, was orchestrated by the likes of Hunter Masden and Marshall
> Kirk beginning some twenty five years ago, and now, we see the
> progression,  by example, how we see Tom For News attempt to orchestrate
> these very techniques today; day in and day out.
>
> By no means to I suggest that the LGBT Alliance could in fact "change"
> one's sexual identity,  I don't think that this is possible.  I do think
> that it is cause for our youth experimenting with homosexuality,  and I
> also believe that there are many youths who could get caught up in this,
> that are not necessarily homosexual,  but because of the portrayal by
> groups such as the LGBT Alliance  and their hand maidens in the mainstream
> media, (the television show, "Glee"  comes to mind);  many confused,
> usually young individuals are identifying with this movement when they
> should not be.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:25 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > the age of 14 is way, way, way too young to making determinations
> > about one's sexual proclivities.
> > ---
> > gays don't determine their sexuality
>
> >  I do believe that this group encourages
> > our youth to make such drastic and potentially life changing
> > announcements.   For this reason, the LGT Alliance should be scorned.
> > ---
> > they don't encourage people to come out ... they encourage those who
> > are gay to stand up for their rights ... which is a good thing
>
> > please ... no name calling or accusations between us on this issue.
> > I'm just trying to share some things I've learned about gay people
> > with you ... like the fact that it's almost exclusively religious
> > people who are fighting with and discriminating against gays.
>
> > On Apr 19, 2:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello PlainOl,
>
> > > I didn't mean to infer or insinuate that a broken home,  divorced
> > parents,
> > > or the LGT Alliance did make one homosexual.   In trying to make sense of
> > > this tragedy,  I just think that it should be noted, and said out loud,
> > > that the age of 14 is way, way, way too young to making determinations
> > > about one's sexual proclivities.  I do believe that this group encourages
> > > our youth to make such drastic and potentially life changing
> > > announcements.   For this reason, the LGT Alliance should be scorned.
>
> > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:53 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > It is NOT  acceptable for a young
> > > > 14 year old kid to come out and declare his sexuality at that age!
> > > > ---
> > > > opinion noted
> > > > accept it or not ... he had every right to do so
>
> > > > btw - broken homes and the Lesbian, Gay Transgender alliance  do not
> > > > make people homosexuals
>
> > > > On Apr 19, 2:42 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I have just taken the time to read the story(ies)  of Kenneth James
> > > > > Weishuhn.   There is no question that this is tragic,  and
> > heartbreaking.
> > > > > It's heartbreaking any time a fourteen year old child,  literally a
> > babe,
> > > > > takes his own life.
>
> > > > > One has to wonder what could have caused a 14 year old kid to take
> > his
> > > > own
> > > > > life?   I read the allegations of bullying;  but this was
> > purportedly on
> > > > a
> > > > > FaceBook page,  and for the life of me, I find this hard to believe
> > that
> > > > > this could have been the sole reasoning behind this child's suicide,
> > > >  even
> > > > > if accurate and true.
>
> > > > > What would have inspired a 14 year old kid to come out and declare
> > > > himself
> > > > > to be, "Gay"?  When I was fourteen, my hormones were racing to
> > extent of
> > > > > bursting!  I know that I grew up in a different era;  literally, a
> > > > > different world, but I had no idea what my true sexual inclinations
> > were
> > > > at
> > > > > the age of 14.   I do know that it would not have been socially
> > > > acceptable
> > > > > for me, or anyone to proclaim their sexual identity in Junior High
> > > > School,
> > > > > and I cannot help but think that this is still improper today, in
> > the New
> > > > > Millennium.
>
> > > > > I note that Kenneth comes from a broken home;  e.g.;  that his Mom
> > is not
> > > > > married to his Dad, and there is no mention as to whether they were
> > ever
> > > > > married.  Only that Mom is married to another man today.  My parents
> > > > > divorced when I was in Junior High School, and that was a tough,
> > > > emotional
> > > > > roller coaster for me,  but not to the point that I would have ever
> > > > > considered suicide.
>
> > > > > A lot of unanswered questions here;  and again,  I cannot help but to
> > > > place
> > > > > a portion of blame on the whole militant Lesbian, Gay Transgender
> > > > alliance,
> > > > > again,  for a porton of this tragedy.   It is NOT  acceptable for a
> > young
> > > > > 14 year old kid to come out and declare his sexuality at that age!
> >  It is
> > > > > as if these people,  as a group, are so focused on their cause being,
> > > > > "Right"  that damn the consequences, and this surely seems to be a
> > > > > consequence......
>
> > > > > ==================
>
> > > > > *IN LOVING MEMORY OF*
>
> > > > > *KENNETH J. WEISHUHN JR**.*
>
> > > > >  *BORN
> > > > > *May 27, 1997
> > > > > Sheldon, Iowa
>
> > > > > *
> > > > > PASSED AWAY
> > > > > *April 15, 2012
> > > > > Primghar, Iowa
>
> > > > >  *FUNERAL SERVICE*
>
> > > > > 10:30 A.M. Thursday, April 19, 2012
>
> > > > > Grace Lutheran Church; Primghar, Iowa
>
> > > > > Rev. S. Kim Peterson & Pastor Mike Cooper ~ Officiating
>
> > > > > Visitation will be after 2:00 P.M. Wednesday, April 18, 2012 with the
> > > > > family present from 5:00 to 7:00 P.M. at the Eldridge Family Funeral
> > Home
> > > > > in Primghar.
>
> > > > > *
> > > > > CONGREGATIONAL HYMNS*
>
> > > > > "Amazing Grace"
>
> > > > > "How Great Thou Art"
>
> > > > > "In the Garden"
>
> > > > > "Go, My Children, With My Blessing"
>
> > > > > Organist: Donna Struve
>
> > > > >  *HONORARY CASKET BEARERS*
>
> > > > > Samuel Chambers Theresa Carrillo
>
> > > > > Dan Ten Kley Evie-Rose Chambers
>
> > > > > *CASKET BEARERS*
>
> > > > > Bill Torrence Kenny Chambers
>
> > > > > Matthew Schoneman Kenneth J. Weishuhn Sr.
>
> > > > > Chris Barrows Jonathan Barrows
>
> > > > > Victor Irwin Anthony Vitrano
>
> > > > >  *FINAL RESTING PLACE*
>
> > > > > Pleasant Hill Cemetery ~ Primghar, Iowa
>
> > > > >  *After today's graveside service family and friends are invited*
>
> > > > > *to join the family in the fellowship hall of the church.*
>
> > > > >  *Arrangements under the care of*
>
> > > > > * Eldridge Family Funeral Home; Primghar, Iowa*
>
> > > > >  *In lieu of flowers the family wishes that*
>
> > > > > * memorials be made to the family.*
>
> > > > > *Kenneth J. Weishuhn Jr.*
>
> > > > > Kenneth J. Weishuhn Jr., the son of Kenneth J. Weishuhn Sr. and
> > Jeannie
> > > > > (Barrows) Chambers was born May 27, 1997 in Sheldon, Iowa. He was
> > > > currently
> > > > > a freshman at South O' Brien High School in Paullina, Iowa. He passed
> > > > away
> > > > > on April 15, 2012 at his parent's residence in Primghar, Iowa.
>
> > > > > He was a member of the Thundercats soccer team. He enjoyed shopping,
> > > > video
> > > > > games, rollerblading and spending time with his family. KJ was a
> > > > respectful
> > > > > and kind person in which he always had a smile on his face. He liked
> > the
> > > > > colors pink and orange. Family was a major part of his life and he
> > had a
> > > > > special bond with his cousins and his best friend, was his sister,
> > Kayla
> > > > > Weishuhn.
>
> > > > > Kenneth is survived by his father, Kenneth of Arizona and his mother
> > and
> > > > > step-father, Jeannie and Kenny Chambers of Primghar, Iowa; a sister,
> > > > Kayla
> > > > > Weishuhn of Primghar, Iowa; a brother, Matthew Schoneman of Ashton,
> > Iowa;
> > > > > aunts, Misty and her husband, Anthony Vitrano of Paullina, Iowa; Kim
> > > > > Weishuhn; Jennifer and her husband, Dan Ten Kley of Primghar, Iowa;
> > > > Suzette
> > > > > and her husband, Orin and Carrie; and uncles, Chris Barrows of
> > Primghar,
> > > > > Iowa; Tom Weishuhn of Prescott, Arizona; three grandmothers, Linda
> > > > Johnson
> > > > > of Primghar, Iowa; Theresa Carillo of Prescott, Arizona and CeCe
> > Chambers
> > > > > of Primghar, Iowa; great-grandmother, Dorothy Chambers of Primghar,
> > Iowa;
> > > > > thirteen cousins, Erin, Vicki, Ashley, Brent, Jonathan, Breanne, Shey
> > > > Shey,
> > > > > Mattie, Theresa, Tomás, Sammi, Evie-Rose and Kendra; also other
> > relatives
> > > > > and friends.
>
> > > > > He was preceded in death by his paternal grandfather, George
> > Weishuhn and
> > > > > grandfather, Alfred Chambers.
>
> > > > >   [image: Print Directions]Print
> > > > > Obituary<
> > > >http://www.gaudian-eldridgefuneralhomes.com/fh/print.cfm?type=obituar..
> > .>
> > > > >   *Back* <javascript:javascript:history.go(-1)>* *
>
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Bruce Majors <
> > majors.br...@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > School choice
>
> > > > > > On Thursday, April 19, 2012, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > QUESTION: What More Do We Need To Do To Help Bullied LGBT Youth?
>
> > > > > > > With the tragic suicide death of bullied Iowa gay teen Kenneth
> > James
> > > > > > > Weishuhn, 14, the subject of gay-teen bullying and suicide has
> > come
> > > > > > > back to the forefront—if it ever, in fact, left.
>
> > > > > > > What more do we need to do to help bullied LGBT youth?
> > > > > > > As the statistics mount, many are saying things like It Gets
> > Better,
> > > > > > > the Trevor Project and even in-school anti-bullying programs are
> > not
> > > > > > > enough. But if that's true, what should we be doing?
>
> > > > > > > Is it a question of more interventions from parents, teachers and
> > > > > > > administrators? Stiffer penalties for bullies?
>
> > > > > > > Or are all the news reports, vigils and celebrity statements in
> > > > effect
> > > > > > > glamorizing suicide? Should we be giving gay youth some tough
> > love?.
>
> > > > > > > What's your take on it? Share with the group.
>
> > > > > > > Full story here:
>
> >http://www.queerty.com/question-what-more-do-we-need-to-do-to-help-bu.
> > > > ..
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > > > > Tommy
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > > > > Tommy
>
> > > > > > > ------------------------------------
>
> > > > > > > Groups Of Interest:
> > > > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GaysUnited
> > > > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SayitloudgayandProud
> > > > > > >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Comeventwithme
> > > > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ProJewishProZionistGroup
> > > > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stillnotjustmusicanymore
> > > > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/whateverreturns
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> > > > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Politics_Dailly
> > > > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/House_Of_Trolls
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