are
just idiots in my view,
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I agree.
however they do have every right (just as you do)
to stand up for their beliefs whatever they may be;
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I also agree.
and may God bless them
(and you) for doing so.
---
preach it!
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On Feb 29, 8:13 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Re read the heading on this thread.... then comment appropriately.
>
> In the minds of those that use their RELIGION to discriminate... they are
> just idiots in my view, however they do have every right (just as you do)
> to stand up for their beliefs whatever they may be; and may God bless them
> (and you) for doing so.
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:11 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > At the end of the day and all these posts I stand firmly that the USA
> > was
> > founded on Christian Principals .....NOT Christian religion.
> > ---
> > ok
>
> > A Pagan can
> > have "Christian Principals" as well as a member of most of the world
> > religions....
> > To argue this point Plainol makes you look the fool.
> > ---
> > to use it as justification to discriminate against gays or atheists is
> > being a fool
>
> > On Feb 29, 4:52 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > At the end of the day and all these posts I stand firmly that the USA was
> > > founded on Christian Principals.....NOT Christian religion. A Pagan can
> > > have "Christian Principals" as well as a member of most of the world
> > > religions....
>
> > > To argue this point Plainol makes you look the fool.
>
> > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:34 AM, plainolamerican <
> > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Huh?
> > > > ---
> > > > Christianity supports the Divine Rights of Kings -- you know, King
> > > > George et al -- rather than Natural Rights as noted in the Declaration
> > > > of Independence
>
> > > > more proof that religion is not something we want in our government
>
> > > > have you noticed how xians get all excited when the see british
> > > > royalty?
>
> > > > On Feb 29, 10:02 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > At 10:43 AM 2/29/2012, you wrote:rather than Natural Rights as noted
> > in
> > > > the Declaration of Independence
> > > > > ---
> > > > > oops!
> > > > > Huh?WHEN in the Course of human Events it becomes necessary for one
> > > > People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with
> > > > another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth the separate &
> > equal
> > > > Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a
> > > > decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should
> > declare
> > > > the causes which impel them to the Separation.WE hold these Truths to
> > be
> > > > self-evident: that all Men are created equal; that they are endowed by
> > > > their creator withinherent and* [certain]* inalienable rights; that
> > among
> > > > these are life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness: that to secure
> > these
> > > > rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just
> > powers
> > > > from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government
> > > > becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to
> > alter
> > > > or abolish it, & to institute new government, laying it's foundation on
> > > > such principles, & organizing it's powers in such form, as to them
> > shall
> > > > seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness. Prudence indeed
> > will
> > > > dictate that governments long established should not be changed for
> > light &
> > > > transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that
> > mankind
> > > > are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right
> > > > themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But
> > when a
> > > > long train of abuses & usurpationsbegun at a distinguished period
> > > > andpursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them
> > > > under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw
> > off
> > > > such government, & to provide new guards for their future security.
> > Such
> > > > has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; & such is now the
> > > > necessity which constrains them toexpunge[alter] their former systems
> > of
> > > > government. The history of the present king of Great Britain is a
> > history
> > > > ofunremitting[repeated] injuries & usurpations,among which appears no
> > > > solitary fact to contradict the uniform tenor of the rest but all
> > have[all
> > > > having]in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over
> > these
> > > > states. To prove this let facts be submitted to a candid worldfor the
> > truth
> > > > of which we pledge a faith yet unsullied by falsehood.Legitimate
> > Government
> > > > secures (natural) rights.
> > > > > This is quite different from Divine Rights of Kings ...Romans 13:1-2
> > > > clearly forbids rebellion against the established authorities and was,
> > > > moreover, written about the pagan government of the Roman Empire, which
> > > > actively persecuted Christians: "Every person must submit to the
> > supreme
> > > > authorities.There is no authority but by act of God,and
> > > > theexistingauthorities are instituted by him; consequently, anyone who
> > > > rebels against authority is resisting a divine institution, and those
> > who
> > > > so resist have themselves to thank for the punishment they will
> > receive."
> > > > George III, it should be noted, was a Christian monarch; if Paul
> > commanded
> > > > obedience by Christians to the pagan and tyrannical Roman emperors,
> > surely
> > > > he would have demanded equal obedience by Christians to the avowedly
> > > > Christian (and far less cruel or oppressive) British king and
> > > > parliament.Regard$,
> > > > > --MJ
> > > > > From all which it is evident, that though the things of Nature are
> > given
> > > > in common, man (by being master of himself, and proprietor of his own
> > > > person, and the actions or labour of it) had still in himself the great
> > > > foundation of property; and that which made up the great part of what
> > he
> > > > applied to the support or comfort of his being, when invention and
> > arts had
> > > > improved the conveniences of life, was perfectly his own, and did not
> > > > belong in common to others. -- John Locke
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