Are you buying?
On Thursday, December 8, 2011, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> ..........Geez.......
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> I think if I were to meet you face-to-face, and maybe over a couple of Budweisers, I could explain to you the difference between "Imperialists"; "Interventonists"; "Isolationists"; and the distinction between "Wacko Left, Socialist-Elitist Moonbats" versus "Wacko Right, Conspiratorialist Crackpots"......
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:22 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> These socialists (except when it comes to lining their own
>> pockets!) have damn near ruined our Nation!
>> ---
>> true
>>
>> so, we get to choose between socialists and imperialists
>>
>> vote 3rd party!
>>
>> On Dec 6, 8:10 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Let's not kid ourselves, this is the Democrats, not Republicans here who
>> > are to blame. These socialists (except when it comes to lining their own
>> > pockets!) have damn near ruined our Nation! Barney Frank, Franklin
>> > Raines, Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, the list goes on, and they are all
>> > Socialist Democrats! Hell, even Bill Clinton admitted it:
>> >
>> > *"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have, may rest more in
>> > resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress, or by me when I was
>> > president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and
>> > Freddie Mac."*
>> >
>> > Bill Clinton on Democrats and the financial crisis
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:10 PM, plainolamerican
>> > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > > the Justice Department's failure to investigate Wall Street, crony
>> > > corporatism, and
>> > > Countrywide
>> > > ----
>> > > ah ... the good old days when you could sell a loan package with
>> > > almost no regulations
>> >
>> > > On Dec 6, 12:43 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Last night's *60 Minutes* featured a truly shameful story on the Justice
>> > > > Department's failure to investigate Wall Street, crony corporatism, and
>> > > > Countrywide. Steve Kroft pretended to be investigating while not asking
>> > > > the Obama Justice Department lackeys (former Clinton administration
>> > > > lackeys) ANY pointed questions at all. One wonders if he got slapped
>> > > > around for asking Nancy Pelosi about her insider trading profits a few
>> > > > weeks back and was told to make atonement.
>> >
>> > > > <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MNDpxK_MzvI/Tt5gDKHYUyI/AAAAAAAAAqw/WM0pKa_..
>> > > .>
>> >
>> > > > He was skewered for it today for an hour by radio host Chris Plante on
>> > > DC's
>> > > > WMAL (which is usually rebroadcast on the weekend, since I can't find it
>> > > > for you on-line). But all one need do is repair to Wikipedia (George
>> > > Soros
>> > > > has not bought it yet) to find that everyone from Nancy Pelosi's son to
>> > > > Congressman James Clyburn to former Senator Chris Dodd to many other
>> > > > Clinton and Obama hireling were given favorable loan terms for keeping
>> > > the
>> > > > party going:
>> >
>> > > > "Friends of Angelo (FOA)" VIP program
>> >
>> > > > Further information: Countrywide financial political loan
>> > > > scandal<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countrywide_financial_political_loan_sca...>
>> >
>> > > > In June 2008 Conde Nast
>> > > > Portfolio<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conde_Nast_Portfolio> reported
>> > > > that several influential lawmakers and politicians, including Senate
>> > > > Banking Committee <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Banking_Committee
>> >
>> > > > Chairman Christopher Dodd
>> > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dodd>, Senate
>> > > > Budget Committee <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Budget_Committee>
>> > > > Chairman Kent Conrad <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Conrad>, and
>> > > Fannie
>> > > > Mae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae> former CEO Jim
>> > > > Johnson<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Johnson_(businessman)>,
>> > > > received favorable mortgage financing from Countrywide by virtue of being
>> > > > "Friends of Angelo."[13]<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-Countrywide.27s_...>
>> > > > [14]<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-CFC_Friends_Loan...>
>> >
>> > > > Senator Dodd received a $75,000 reduction in mortgage payments from
>> > > > Countrywide at allegedly below-market rates on his Washington, D.C. and
>> > > > Connecticut homes. Michael Moore's*Capitalism: A Love Story* shows on
>> > > film
>> > > > that this was actually over a million dollars of a sweet-heart mortgage
>> > > > deal.[13]<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-Countrywide.27s_...>
>> > > > [15]<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-Dodd_Angelo.27s_...>
>> > > > Dodd
>> > > > nonetheless called for stronger regulation of mortgage lenders and
>> > > proposed
>> > > > that predatory lenders should face criminal
>> > > > charges.[16]<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-deal-15>
>> >
>> > > > Clinton Jones III, senior counsel of the House Financial Services
>> > > > Subcommittee on Housing and Community Opportunity, and "an adviser to
>> > > > ranking Republican members of Congress responsible for legislation of
>> > > > interest to the financial services industry and of importance to
>> > > > Countrywide." was given special treatment. Jones is now state director
>> > > for
>> > > > federal residential-mortgage bundler Freddie Mac. Alphonso
>> > > > Jackson<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonso_Jackson>,
>> > > > acting secretary of HUD at the time and long time friend and Texas
>> > > neighbor
>> > > > of President Bush, received a discounted mortgage for himself and sought
>> > > > one for his daughter. "In 2003, using V.I.P. loans for nearly $1 million
>> > > > apiece, Franklin Raines <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Raines>,
>> > > > Fannie Mae's chairman and C.E.O. from 1999 to 2004, twice refinanced his
>> > > > seven-bedroom home, which has a pool and movie
>> > > > theater."[16]<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-deal-15>
>> >
>> > > > Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi>'s
>> > > > son, Paul Pelosi, Jr., also received a loan with Countrywide. Barbara
>> > > > Boxer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Boxer>
>> > > > , Adam H. Putnam <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_H._Putnam>, Richard
>> > > C.
>> > > > Holbrooke <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Holbrooke>, James E.
>> > > > Clyburn <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._Clyburn>, and Donna
>> > > > Shalala<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Shalala> are
>> > > > also among those with mortgages from Countrywide.
>> >
>> > > > CBS News <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBS_News> has obtained the
>> > > following
>> > > > list of then-Fannie Mae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae>
>> > > employees
>> > > > whose names have been turned over to investigators as having received VIP
>> > > > loans from Countrywide:[17]<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-16>
>> >
>> > > > - Sandra Adams: Fannie Mae Account Associate
>> > > > - Nitirwork Armstrong: Fannie Mae Director
>> > > > - Gregg Ayres: Fannie Mae Customer Acct Manager
>> > > > - Jeffrey Baker: Fannie Mae Business Analyst
>> > > > - Ingrid Beckles: Freddie Mac VP Default Mgmt
>> > > > - Cherry Billings: Fannie Mae Asst to CEO
>> > > > - Christine Buckley: Fannie Mae Sr Assistant
>> > > > - Sharon Canavan: Fannie Mae Govt Relations/Lobbyist
>> > > > - Delynn Conley: Fannie Mae Underwriter
>> > > > - Carla Corpuz: Fannie Mae Senior Underwriter
>> > > > - Tanguy De Carbonnieres: Fannie Mae Legal Counsel
>> > > > - Bernard Deane: Fannie Mae Director
>> > > > - Mollie Dougherty: Fannie Mae Sr Business Manager
>> > > > - Roy Downey: Fannie Mae Director
>> > > > - Cynthia Fatica: Fannie Mae Legal Counsel
>> > > > - Jamie Gorelick <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Gorelick>:
>> > > Fannie
>> > > > Mae Vice Chair
>> > > > - Lizbeth Grant: Fannie Mae Director Tec/Secondary Mkt
>> > > > - Greta Hamilton: Fannie Mae Manager/Home Loans
>> > > > - Lester Handy: Fannie Mae Consultant
>> > > > - James Johnson: Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO
>> > > > - Jack King: Fannie Mae Manager
>> > > > - Karen King: Fannie Mae Credit Risk manager
>> > > > - Gerald Langbauer: Freddie Mac VP Sales
>> > > > - Derek Lowe: Fannie Mae Technician/Home Loans
>> > > > - Mary Lee Moriarity: Fannie Mae Sr Underwriter Consult/Lending
>> > > > - Daniel Mudd: Fannie Mae Vice Chair and COO
>> > > > - Paulette Porter: Fannie Mae Sr Proj Mgr/Mtg Securities
>> > > > - Alan Quirion: Freddie Mac Director
>> > > > - John Radwanski: Freddie Mac Sr Port Director
>> > > > - Franklin Raines: Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO
>> > > > - Robin Ramsay: Fannie Mae Customer Acct Manager
>> > > > - Rebecca Rosena: Fannie Mae Credit Risk manager
>> > > > - Irwin Rosenstein: Fannie Mae Ass. General Counsel
>> > > > - Robert Sanborn: Fannie Mae Vice President
>> > > > - William Shirreffs: Fannie Mae Director
>> > > > - Joseph Silva: Fannie Mae Servicing Portfolio Manager
>> > > > - Donna Simpson: Fannie Mae Customer Acct Manager
>> > > > - Michelle Sorensen: Fannie Mae Sr Business An/Mortgage
>> > > > - Mary Ann Staley: Fannie Mae Marketing Dir
>> > > > - Deborah Kay: Tretler Fannie Mae VP Risk Management
>> > > > - Kirk Willison: Freddie Mac VP Trade Relations/Dir Industry Relations
>> > > > - David Yoon: Fannie Mae Acct Associate
>> >
>> > > > [edit<
>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Angelo_Mozilo&action=edit&s...>
>> > > > ]
>> >
>> > > > <http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-45R7KdcmwD8/Tt5gLym7lsI/AAAAAAAAAq4/aRHymb8..
>> > > .>
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