Re: Jonah Goldberg Admits: Political Power Is All That Matters to Neocons (Shocker!!)

Well, one that comes to mind is that post that you sent in several weeks ago, about Newt's divorce!

 

 

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:49 AM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:

Nope,  I haven't heard too many folks get Crazy Uncle Ron's fiscal
policies
wrong, but I have heard a ton of the cult like followers of Crazy
Uncle Ron
spew misinformation continuously

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On Dec 28, 1:31 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nope,  I haven't heard too many folks get Crazy Uncle Ron's fiscal policies
> wrong, but I have heard a ton of the cult like followers of Crazy Uncle Ron
> spew misinformation continuously.
>
> Most all of the conservative candidates now have similar fiscal policies as
> Crazy Uncle Ron do,  there's nothing new there.
>

> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:

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> > Actually his supporters just think his critics are desperate and idiots
> > since they get so many things, like what kind of monetary reform he
> > advocates, so wrong and are obviously so ignorant
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> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2011, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>

> > wrote:
> > > The hypocrisy of Ron Paul and his supporters By SHERRY BREWER
> > > Capitol Hill Supervising Editor
> > > A Capitol Hill Blue Editorial
> > > December 27, 2011
> > > ________________________________
>
> > > Ron Paul: Which side of his mouth is he talking out of today?
>
> > > The rabid supporters of twice unsuccessful Presidential candidate Ron
> > Paul claim their candidate is different from the others but when he comes
> > under attack for using his foundations to further his political career,
> > they chime in with a defense that claims other candidates do the same thing.
>
> > > In the end, the partisan supporters of the Texas Congressman who is
> > sometimes a Libertarian, sometimes a Republican and always a
> > conspiracy-touting extremist are no different than the die-hard backers of
> > former presidents George W. Bush or Bill Clinton.
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> > > "It is kind of funny that the standard defense of Ron Paul using his
> > foundations for political purposes is that old excuse that 'everybody does
> > it.' Everybody doesn't do it. Most use political action committees for that
> > purpose," GOP strategist John Lawrence tells Capitol Hill Blue. "It is
> > typical of the ignorance of Ron Paul's faithful that they don't know the
> > difference between a not-for-profit foundation and a PAC."
>
> > > Another fantasy from the Paul camp is the claim that his positions have
> > never changed, that he has always been consistent. Paul's changing story
> > about his role in the racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic and
> > conspiracy-touting newsletters that bore his name in the 1980s and 1990s
> > lays that lie to rest. At first he claimed the words were his and taken out
> > of context, then his story changed to "I wrote some of the articles." Now
> > the story is "I didn't write them, I didn't read them and I disavow them."
>
> > > Ron Paul's hypocrisy on the newsletter issue is so blatant that more
> > questions are being raised about his handling of the matter.
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> > > Writes Brett Budkowsky in The Hill:
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> > > If Ron Paul wants others to take responsibility for their actions, he
> > should take responsibility for his. Otherwise his credo is the same serial
> > hypocrisy he correctly accuses Newt Gingrich of. If materials go out under
> > Ron Paul's name, advancing Ron Paul's interest, it is not enough to say, in
> > effect, "I did not know, I never knew, don't blame me."
>
> > > I believe if Ron Paul did take personal responsibility it would help his
> > campaign, but in any event, he should hold himself to the same standards he
> > applies to everyone else.
>
> > > Writes University of Maryland political science professor Thomas F.
> > Schaller in The Baltimore Sun:
>
> > > Nice try, congressman. There's his name in giant, bold letters at the
> > top of each issue. On some editions his face appears at the top, or his
> > signature at the bottom. The lack of bylines attached to specific articles,
> > his defenders say, means Dr. Paul can't be held accountable for the words
> > they contain. But the newsletters include first-person, biographical
> > mentions like "my wife Carol" and "my youngest son … starting his fourth
> > year of medical school." His wife's name is Carol; his youngest son,
> > Robert, is a physician.
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> > > Even if surrogates actually wrote the material for Dr. Paul, so what?
> > When politicians authorize press secretaries and ghostwriters to pen their
> > statements, speeches and books, it is universally understood that the
> > politician whose name appears atop the stationery or on the jacket cover is
> > accountable. Once those newsletters went in the mail, Dr. Paul owned every
> > word they contained — period.
>
> > > But don't let Dr. Paul's impish, avuncular and professorial style fool
> > you. He's arguably the most megalomaniacal candidate in a 2012 Republican
> > field that includes Newt Gingrich. And he's trying to squirm out of taking
> > responsibility for his writings.
>
> > > I now brace myself for the torrent of emails from Dr. Paul's vigilant
> > supporters. When those emails arrive, I shall adopt the Ron Paul Defense:
> > Despite my name and picture at the top of this column, I'm so busy lately I
> > can't remember for sure whether I wrote all the words in this column, nor
> > did I read them before or after the column went to press. So I can't be
> > held responsible for calling their guy the racist, anti-gay conspiracist he
> > is.
>
> > > Hypocrisy, however, has long been a Ron Paul trademark but such facts
> > don't matter to Paul's cult-like followers. Their candidate — in their
> > narrow, parochial view of the world — is incapable of mistakes, of human
> > fallacies. He is the political messiah they blindly claim will save all of
> > us from themselves. In the end, American voters will save us from Ron Paul
> > by rejecting him at the polls.
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> > > If Paul were caught screwing a nun on the steps of the Capitol, his
> > followers would probably claim it was a trap by a "liberal" Catholic church.
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> > > Such is the nature of blind partisanship.
>
> > > Paul's followers are also well-known for spamming any web site that
> > dares question the sainthood of their candidate. An editorial last week
> > that suggested their candidate was selling America short to get rich
> > brought the usual avalanche of hate email, spam and computer generated
> > comments.
>
> > > Capitol Hill Blue's spam filters caught more than 5,000 fake emails from
> > a handful of IP addresses. More than 2500 came from phony email accounts.
> > More than 1500 contained racial, homophobic or anti-Semitic slurs. Some
> > claimed racism by other candidates or slams against their religions.
>
> > > Such comments don't make it onto this site. We verify email addresses,
> > look for spam from singular IP addresses and flag comments that contain
> > obscenities, racial slurs or threats.
>
> > > One trend we did find interesting in looking at the comments: More than
> > 500 questioned our use of a quote from an anonymous former Paul staff
> > member. All came from posters users anonymous "handles" instead of their
> > names and 83 percent from fake email addresses.
>
> > > Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot. The color for the day is black.
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> > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:35 PM, plainolamerican <

> > plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> conservatives should support one of the six Republican stooges who,
> > >> unlike Ron Paul, don't actually believe in the core conservative
> > >> principle of limited constitutional government
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> > >> nor in the founding father's intentions to avoid entangling alliances
> > >> with other nations.
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> > >> their hypocrisy knows no bounds
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> > >> On Dec 28, 9:22 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > >> > Jonah Goldberg Admits: Political Power Is All That Matters to Neocons
> > (Shocker!!)Posted byThomas DiLorenzoon December 27, 2011 09:40 AM
> > >> > In his latest syndicated column Jonah Goldberg comes up with a novel
> > argument against the Ron Paul candidacy: Ron is (supposedly) not very
> > persuasive! He says he agrees with a lot of what Ron says, but if he is
> > elected president he won't be able to persuade enough members of Congress
> > to cut back on government.
> > >> > Therefore, Goldberg implies, conservatives should support one of the
> > six Republican stooges who, unlike Ron Paul, don't actually believe in the
> > core conservative principle of limited constitutional government but
> > onlytalkabout itwhenever Democrats are in power, not whentheyhold the White
> > House.
> > >> > Let's see now. Ron Paul has been persuasive enough to be reelected a
> > dozen times in his rural Texas congressional district despite the fact that
> > he is in favor of ending all farm welfare programs. He has been persuasive
> > enough to be Number One in the Iowa polls less than a week from the Iowa
> > Caucuses and near the top in national polls. He has been persuasive enough
> > to incite thousands of people to volunteer endless hours working for his
> > election. He has been persuasive enough to active-duty military personnel
> > to be the top recipient of campaign donations from them, receiving more
> > donations from active-duty military people than ALL THE OTHER REPUBLICAN
> > CANDIDATES COMBINED. He has been persuasive enough to have authored
> > severalNew York Timesbestsellers. He has been persuasive enough to have
> > become a YouTube sensation. He has been persuasive enough to shock the
> > entire Washington establishment by collecting tens of millions of dollars
> > in small, individual campaign donations in fundraising "money bombs"
> > organized by strangers. And he is clearly more persuasive than Jonah
> > Goldberg is when he argues that Ron Paul is not persuasive.
> > >> > Of course, the real reason the Jonah Goldbergs of the world busy
> > themselves with dreaming up dumb articles like his latest is that they know
> > that Ron Paul will not participate in the murder of thousands of innocent
> > Iranians and Syrians, and the death of thousands more of American soldiers,
> > with another trumped-up, phony war like the one in Iraq that has nothing
> > whatsoever to do with defending Americans against anything.
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