Re: What Immigration Problem?

Good Evening Michael!

 

Let me ask you a couple of questions if I may:

 

Who do you think the term, "ourselves and our posterity"  refer to?

 

I agree with you, that the term, "The People"  sounds all encompassing....So, would the First Amendment, Second Amendment, Third Amendment, Fourth Amendment, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eight Amendments, all of which reference  "[t]he People"  (or are non-specific)  apply to say,  folks in China, or Iran? 

 

Would the Twelfth Amendment apply to individuals who are immigrants, but have arrived here in the United States legally?  Would it apply to those individuals who are illegal immigrants?

 

Why is it that citizens or "residents" of Puerto Rico, although by law being United States citizens, are not as a constitutional matter protected by the full Bill of Rights?

 

I think we both agree that it is fundamental that the Constitution defines and limits our federal government. Yet does the Constitution constrain the exercise of ourfederal government's power abroad? Do United States Constitutional Protections apply to Afghanis, who by yours and probably better said PlainOl's definitions,  are victims of our "interventionist"  policies,  and by example, what I mean to say, is does the Constitution constrain our federal government and our occupational forces in Afghanistan?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

"Note that the Constitution expressly protects the rights ofpersons, not just those of American citizens."
 
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No, it doesn't.  That is the major flaw with many far left individuals' thinking. 

ROTFLMAO!
The Constitution protects People from Government -- their rights as well.

Never see:

• A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who ...
• No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the ...
• ,,, the right of the people to keep and ...
• ... without the consent of the Owner, nor in ...
• The right of the people to be secure ...
• No person shall be held to answer for a ...
• In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall ,,,
• The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
• The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Who do you imagine these PEOPLE might be? Before you absurdly make a fool of yourself with 'citizen' ,,, why did they not use THAT term in those instances when they did in others?

Regard$,
--MJ

"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves. That enables them to act as if there were no price, even when there are ruinous prices paid by others" -- Thomas Sowell.

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