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that's right where the politicians want you
were you one of those kids who were instructed to duck under a desk
during nuclear drills?
the fear is exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually
one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended
effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle
in short ... grow a pair and stand on your feet ... the muzzies aren't
coming to get you
On Nov 29, 1:41 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You should be fearful.....Very fearful. As every American should be.
>
> This in and of itself is a part of the problem......
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:38 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
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>
>
>
>
> > I think I am a logical, thinking American
> > who sees the dangers out there.
> > ----
> > my children can smell your fear
>
> > On Nov 29, 1:33 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > And your double standard of criticizing anyone who supports a
> > conservative
> > > candidate, calling them a Jew/Zionist, versus those who criticize Ron
> > Paul
> > > as being a Jew Zionist, is noted.
>
> > > I am neither. But then again, I think I am a logical, thinking
> > American
> > > who sees the dangers out there. I encourage you to take a look and get
> > > your ass off of your shoulders!
>
> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:26 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > your links in no way negate what I have said
>
> > > > here's an op-ed in Friday's Israel National News
> > > > Ron Paul Should be the Zionist Choice for US President
> > > > by Shmuel Ben-Gad
>
> > > > He opposes US foreign aid to Israel.
>
> > > > Since the Six Day War, US presidents and presidential candidates have
> > > > tended to speak of the US and Israel as great friends and allies. They
> > > > have also tended to favor the shrinking of Israel's borders. This has
> > > > reached a low point under the Bush administration, which is the first
> > > > one to explicitly make its policy the establishment of an Arab state
> > > > in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. Thus, the US alliance with Israel has been
> > > > a decidedly mixed blessing.
>
> > > > Israel receives military and financial assistance, and also some
> > > > diplomatic support at the United Nations, but the US puts pressure on
> > > > Israel to surrender parts of the homeland. Even worse, this
> > > > relationship seems to foster a mentality of dependence amongst many
> > > > Israelis who, it seems, cannot imagine Israel defying the United
> > > > States in any major way.
>
> > > > In the upcoming presidential election, however, there is a chance to
> > > > change this dramatically, by electing Congressman Ron Paul, a
> > > > candidate for the Republican presidential nomination. Dr. Paul favors
> > > > a non-interventionist foreign policy. He has written:
>
> > > > "Yet, while we call ourselves a strong ally of the Israeli people, we
> > > > send billions in foreign aid every year to some Muslim states that
> > > > many Israelis regard as enemies. From the Israeli point of view, many
> > > > of the same Islamic nations we fund with our tax dollars want to
> > > > destroy the Jewish state. Many average Israelis and American Jews see
> > > > America as hypocritically hedging its bets.... It is time to challenge
> > > > the notion that it is our job to broker peace in the Middle East and
> > > > every other troubled region across the globe.... 'Peace plans' imposed
> > > > by outsiders or the UN cause resentment and seldom produce lasting
> > > > peace.... The fatal conceit lies in believing America can impose
> > > > geopolitical solutions wherever it chooses."
>
> > > > In this, Dr. Paul is hearkening back to what George Washington
> > > > counseled in his famous farewell address: "The great rule of conduct
> > > > for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial
> > > > relations, to have with them as little political connection as
> > > > possible."
>
> > > > The Republican Jewish Coalition (a fervent supporter of the Bush
> > > > administration, which it claims is a great friend of Israel) refused
> > > > to invite Dr. Paul to its candidates forum because he opposes aid to
> > > > Israel. But, as we can see, Dr. Paul's position is based upon a
> > > > principled, modest, non-interventionist foreign policy - not upon
> > > > anti-Zionism. Indeed, in a way, his foreign policy is mirrored by his
> > > > small government domestic policy. Both recognize there are real limits
> > > > to what a government can usefully do.
>
> > > > It is true that Israel is a small state in a highly dangerous
> > > > neighborhood, but it is an economically and technologically vibrant
> > > > country - even more so recently, as the shackles of socialism have
> > > > been somewhat loosened. Cutting the apron strings to the US would, I
> > > > think, make Israel become more maturely self-confident, because it
> > > > would be more self-reliant.
>
> > > > A Ron Paul presidency would be healthy for Israel in yet another way.
> > > > Dr. Paul is opposed to organizations like the United Nations and the
> > > > International Criminal Court that dilute national sovereignty. If the
> > > > United States, in a Paul administration, withdrew from the UN and
> > > > similar institutions, imagine what a blow this would deliver to their
> > > > power and prestige. I find it a thrilling prospect. Maybe Israel would
> > > > have a wise enough government to follow suit.
>
> > > > Now, I do not support Ron Paul only for Zionist reasons, nor do I
> > > > think US pressure is the primary cause for the current politically and
> > > > culturally debilitated conditions of Israel. The primary cause, in my
> > > > opinion, is the self-debasement of the Hebrew nation both in the
> > > > homeland and abroad. This manifested itself most severely in the
> > > > Israeli government's expulsion of Jews from Gaza and northern Samaria,
> > > > and in the almost total lack of opposition that greeted this from the
> > > > Jewish Diaspora.
>
> > > > It seems to me a Ron Paul presidency would be good for Israel and for
> > > > the United States. Its foreign policy non-interventionism and its
> > > > concern to protect national sovereignty would provide Israel with a
> > > > greater impetus to increase its own independence and sense of national
> > > > honor. I hope American Zionists will resist the immediate,
> > > > meretricious attractions of American financial assistance for Israel.
> > > > Ron Paul would both end this infantilizing, and even corrupting, aid
> > > > and respect Israel's national sovereignty.
>
> > > > Ron Paul should be the Zionist choice ... but then we know what their
> > > > priorities are
>
> > > > On Nov 29, 1:07 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Just a quick thirty second Google Search provided this:
>
> > > > > (And yes, I admit, they are all Crackpots or Moonbats)
>
> > > > >http://www.facebook.com/JewsForRonPaul
>
> >http://www.dailypaul.com/188341/attention-volunteers-new-flyer-to-get...
>
> > > > >http://zionistsforronpaul.blogspot.com/
>
> > > > >http://zionistsforronpaul.blogspot.com/
>
> > > > > This sounds like your peeps right here PlainOl:
>
> > > > >http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=86281
>
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:58 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > I agree with all of your facts regarding "[n]ewt, and totally
> > support
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > and every position that he has taken to date.
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > of course, he an interventionist and zionist xian
>
> > > > > > What specifically is it that you have an issue with in the events
> > that
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > has either published,or broadcast, or written?
> > > > > > ----
> > > > > > he a zionist xian who would use our tax dollars and military for
> > the
> > > > > > defense of israel regardless of the cost to Americans
>
> > > > > > Why is it that you are not
> > > > > > as harsh over the crackpot "[z]ionists who are pushing the naive
> > and
> > > > > > sometimes incoherent Dr. Ron Paul? Why do Jews get a pass with you
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > they support a Crackpot?
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > show me a jew that supports RP ... so far they've been crawling out
> > > > > > from under the rocks to criticize RP
>
> > > > > > On Nov 28, 10:29 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > I agree with all of your facts regarding "[n]ewt, and totally
> > support
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > > and every position that he has taken to date.
>
> > > > > > > What specifically is it that you have an issue with in the events
> > > > that he
> > > > > > > has either published,or broadcast, or written? Why is it that
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > as harsh over the crackpot "[z]ionists who are pushing the naive
> > and
> > > > > > > sometimes incoherent Dr. Ron Paul? Why do Jews get a pass with
> > you
> > > > when
> > > > > > > they support a Crackpot?
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > and who cares what Joseph W. McQuaide thinks about the newt?
> > > > > > > > his family's paper was bought out by a jewish competitor and
> > now
> > > > > > > > reduced to weekly community papers
>
> > > > > > > > Without the zionist xian vote Newt, a catholic convert, is
> > nothing
> > > > but
> > > > > > > > a scared puppy.
> > > > > > > > In 2007, Gingrich authored a book, Rediscovering God in
> > America,
> > > > > > > > arguing that the Founding Fathers actively intended the new
> > > > republic
> > > > > > > > to not only allow, but encourage, religious expression in the
> > > > public
> > > > > > > > square. Following publication of the book, he was invited by
> > Jerry
> > > > > > > > Falwell to be the speaker for the second time at Liberty
> > > > University's
> > > > > > > > graduation, on May 19, 2007, due to Gingrich having, "dedicated
> > > > much
> > > > > > > > of his time to calling America back to our Christian
> > > > heritage".[162]
>
> > > > > > > > Between 2008 and 2011, his production company produced three
> > films
> > > > on
> > > > > > > > religion,[103] one on energy, one on Ronald Reagan, and one on
> > the
> > > > > > > > threat of radical Islam. All were joint projects with the
> > > > conservative
> > > > > > > > group Citizens United.[104] In 2011, Newt and Callista
> > appeared in
> > > > A
> > > > > > > > City Upon a Hill, on the subject of American exceptionalism.
>
> > > > > > > > yes, he is just another islamaphobe warmonger
>
> > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2:27 pm, Keith In
>
> ...
>
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