Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Re: GOP operatives fear lasting Ron Paul problem

listen to Dr. Paul's foreign policy agenda, and tell me
where you hear anything regarding such a plan as massive aerial
assaults......
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that's my opinion, not his

Dr. Paul would make an excellent Secretary of Treasury,
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but a better chairman of the federal reserve

but
Commander In Chief, he ain't!
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but should be

On Aug 16, 1:24 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well PlainOl',  listen to Dr. Paul's foreign policy agenda, and tell me
> where you hear anything regarding such a plan as massive aerial
> assaults......Dr. Paul would make an excellent Secretary of Treasury, but
> Commander In Chief, he ain't!
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:08 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > The fact is that there are fundamentalist Muslims who believe in
> > dar-al-islam that control many of the Nation-States within the Middle
> > East,
> > and these individuals want to see Western Civilization, (to include
> > the
> > United States, first and foremost)  gone, done away with,  destroyed,
> > G'Nite.
> > ---
> > that's true ...
>
> > Doesn't have a thing to do with Nation Building,  it has to do with
> > self
> > preservation
> > ---
> > to invade, destroy, and rebuild muzzy countries in the name of
> > democracy in insanity.
> > solution: find the terrorists, kill them, and then bring the troops
> > home.
> > we do NOT have a responsibility to rebuild what is destroyed nor do we
> > owe their innocent civilians squat!!!
> > in fact, they owe US an apology and should repay US for the expense of
> > getting rid of their scum
>
> > massive aerial assaults work best and saves US lives
>
> > On Aug 16, 12:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Anyone who thinks that there are just a few misplaced Muslims, and the
> > World
> > > of Islam is still the religion of peace is out of touch as much as Stinky
> > > is.
>
> > > The fact is that there are fundamentalist Muslims who believe in
> > > dar-al-islam that control many of the Nation-States within the Middle
> > East,
> > > and these individuals want to see Western Civilization, (to include the
> > > United States, first and foremost)  gone, done away with,  destroyed,
> > > G'Nite.
>
> > > Doesn't have a thing to do with Nation Building,  it has to do with self
> > > preservation.
>
> > > Anyone who doesn't understand this,  including Ron  Paul, is flat out
> > > misplaced.  *See* Whoopie Goldberg, Babs Streisand,  Rosie O'Donnell,
> >  Sean
> > > Penn,  Barack Obama,  Ron Paul,  and a host of other confused Moonbats
> > and
> > > Crackpots.
>
> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > It is the naivity of Paul's foreign policy and his lack of supporting
> > > > a
> > > > strong national defense that is troublesome
> > > > ----
> > > > pulling US troops home is not naive nor does it weaken national
> > > > defense
>
> > > > those in favor of nation building and US intervention would disagree
>
> > > > On Aug 16, 6:20 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I think York aptly describes the issue, but to categorize "GOP
> > > > Operatives"
> > > > > as fearing Ron Paul is a bit of a stretch.
>
> > > > > First, I am not sure what a "Repulbican Operative" is.  Is it someone
> > who
> > > > > campaigns, supports,  and even financially contributes to the Party?
> > > >  Then I
> > > > > would qualify as an "Operative" and I don't fear Ron Paul nor do I
> > fear
> > > > his
> > > > > supporters, including the crackpot supporters.  I drink beer with
> > them,
> > > >  go
> > > > > to Church with them,  play poker (when I am in Tampa) with them, and
> > when
> > > > > the subject of politics comes up, try to show them the fallacy of
> > Paul's
> > > > > ways. Most of the Paul supporters I know agree, with a hand full,
> > that
> > > > can
> > > > > best be described as, "Crackpots".
>
> > > > > The truth is, that most all Americans agree with a smaller, fiscally
> > > > > responsible government that adheres to the Constitution of the United
> > > > > States.  Paul stands for that, as does the Tea Party movement, which
> > > > again,
> > > > > much to the dismay of Democrats and far left extremists,  I believe
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > majority of this Nation.
>
> > > > > It is the naivity of Paul's foreign policy and his lack of supporting
> > a
> > > > > strong national defense that is troublesome and therefore
> > disqualifying.
>
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:53 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > *GOP operatives fear lasting Ron Paul problem
> > > > > > *By: Byron York
> > > > > > 08/15/11 8:05 PM
>
> > > > > > Republicans dodged a big bullet at the Ames straw poll on Saturday.
> > If
> > > > just
> > > > > > 77 of the 4,283 people who voted for Rep. Michele Bachmann had
> > voted
> > > > instead
> > > > > > for Rep. Ron Paul, then Paul would have won the straw poll. In the
> > end,
> > > > > > Bachmann came out ahead with 28.55 percent of the vote to Paul's
> > 27.65
> > > > > > percent. No other candidate was close.
>
> > > > > > Some well-connected Iowa Republicans viewed it as a bullet dodged
> > > > because
> > > > > > they had long feared the possibility of a Paul victory. "It would
> > pour
> > > > jet
> > > > > > fuel on the East Coast narrative that Iowa is just too nutty to
> > have
> > > > such an
> > > > > > important place in the nominating process," says one of those
> > > > Republicans.
> > > > > > Before the poll, they saw a Paul-Bachmann one-two finish as the
> > > > worst-case
> > > > > > scenario. They ended up with Bachmann-Paul -- a result
> > establishment
> > > > > > Republicans viewed as somewhat better than the other way around --
> > and
> > > > got a
> > > > > > lot of the criticism anyway.
>
> > > > > > The criticism came not just from Democrats or so-called Eastern
> > elite
> > > > RINOs
> > > > > > (Republicans In Name Only). "Ron Paul is going to destroy this
> > party if
> > > > they
> > > > > > keep him in there," said Rush Limbaugh the day after the Aug. 11
> > Fox
> > > > > > News-Washington Examiner debate in Ames. "This is nuts on parade."
>
> > > > > > Key Republicans in Iowa -- and around the country, too -- are
> > genuinely
> > > > > > baffled by the Paul phenomenon. They understand (and share) many of
> > > > Paul's
> > > > > > views on the Constitution and limiting the size and scope of the
> > > > federal
> > > > > > government, even if they think Paul sometimes goes too far. What
> > > > perplexes
> > > > > > them is Paul's take on foreign policy, especially the threat of
> > Iran
> > > > > > acquiring nuclear weapons.
>
> > > > > > "Why wouldn't it be natural that they might want a weapon?" Paul
> > asked
> > > > at
> > > > > > the Fox-Examiner debate. "They'd be given more respect. ... What's
> > so
> > > > > > terribly bad about this?" As for sanctions against Iran, Paul said,
> > > > > > "Countries that you put sanctions on, you are more likely to fight
> > > > them. ...
> > > > > > I say stay out of their internal business."
>
> > > > > > The crowd in Iowa State University's Stephens Auditorium included a
> > > > large
> > > > > > group of Paul supporters who broke into loud cheers every time Paul
> > > > spoke,
> > > > > > including when he gave his views on Iran. "That audience goes
> > nuts,"
> > > > > > Limbaugh said the next day. "I think, 'Oh, my gosh, what am I
> > watching
> > > > > > here?' "
>
> > > > > > It's likely most Republicans agree with Limbaugh's assessment, and
> > > > Paul's
> > > > > > ability to say such things and still remain a force in the party
> > > > confuses
> > > > > > many in the GOP. "What part of his support is attributable to a
> > > > different
> > > > > > world view, and what part is attributable to the economic
> > libertarian
> > > > world
> > > > > > view?" asks the well-connected Republican, who freely admits he
> > doesn't
> > > > know
> > > > > > the answer.
>
> > > > > > No one fears that Paul will walk away with the Republican
> > nomination.
> > > > But
> > > > > > with a strong core of supporters, he has the means to stay in the
> > race
> > > > > > nearly as long as he wants. That core support also earns him a spot
> > in
> > > > > > high-profile debates. To qualify for the Fox-Examiner debate, for
> > > > example,
> > > > > > candidates had to have at least 1 percent support in five national
> > > > polls.
> > > > > > Paul qualified with plenty of room to spare; in the most recent
> > > > > > RealClearPolitics average of polls, he has 9 percent support, well
> > > > ahead of
> > > > > > fellow candidates Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Rick
> > > > Santorum,
> > > > > > and, until his withdrawal from the race Sunday, Tim Pawlenty.
>
> > > > > > Paul also has enough money to do what he wants. He reported raising
> > > > $4.5
> > > > > > million in the second quarter of this year, with about $3 million
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > bank. Since he has decided to retire from the House, he can also
> > spend
> > > > > > unused funds raised for congressional campaigns.
>
> > > > > > Speaking of retirement -- one aspect of the Paul phenomenon that
> > has
> > > > > > received little attention so far is his age. Born in 1935, he will
> > be
> > > > 77
> > > > > > years old on Inauguration Day 2013 -- the same age Ronald Reagan
> > was
> > > > when he
> > > > > > left the White House after serving two terms. If Paul were elected
> > and
> > > > > > re-elected, he'd be 85 at the end of his time in the White House.
> > Even
> > > > > > though Americans are living longer, most people would probably
> > agree
> > > > that's
> > > > > > too old for a president.
>
> > > > > > But the Paul campaign isn't really about the practical possibility
> > that
> > > > he
> > > > > > might become president. It's more about Paul's supporters forcing
> > the
> > > > larger
> > > > > > political establishment to acknowledge that he's right. "The day
> > will
> > > > come
> > > > > > soon when candidate Paul will get his due," tweeted one supporter
> > > > recently.
> > > > > > "Blowback is gonna be a b---h."
>
> > > > > > Of course, most Republicans don't believe that. But Paul commands
> > > > enough
> > > > > > support to make his presence known all the way through next year.
>
> >http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/08/gop-operatives-fear-la.
> > > > ..
>
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